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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0035/05/31 18:34:28
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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LOL, I thought so, looks amazing...
Hey, OCD isn't always a curse to it's victim. Mine is very nearly under control and I no longer circle three times backwards before sitting....
I am happy about that......
Now the Tourrettes is kicking my @$$ still......
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/31 18:35:37
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/31 18:37:40
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:lols, you don't get to see or live with the negative sides  and coming from someone with ocd, its terrible... I can't leave the house without checking the lock three times and even then, I end up going back to just try the front door to be sure. everything has to have a place, and be in lines (see my nids in my blog for that one) I wish I could do something about it, but I've always been this way.
Thats OCD. I was heading for a job upstate and about 30 miles from home when I couldn't remember if I had closed the garage door. It prayed on me until I had to turn around and go back home to check...............
It was closed.
Did I mention it was rush hour!
OCD is no fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/31 18:40:45
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/31 19:08:35
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Hellacious Havoc
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The_Blackadder wrote:mxwllmdr wrote:How did you manage getting the tee's into the wooden gimbals? I assume they are wooden from past knowledge of your techniques and their color.....
Well first you plant the seed and put the tee on top of the planting..............
Then you've gotta be really patient.......
Or you just cut the ball in half insert the tee and glue it back together.
Ha.
Phenomenal work as always Black, I do so look forward to seeing future progress.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 10:59:54
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Okay let's recap for the week to establish where we stand. The pelvic block is basically done and the legs are basically done except for the detail. Now the cross 'Tees' are temporarily in place to establish the width of the hips and allow for the splaying of the legs ala the 'classic Reaver pose'. I figure I should get this in before the weekend as I will be working on the 'hip articulation' whilst everyone is off having a life for the next few days. I can see already that my greatest fear has been allayed and the pelvic block is not too big and that I actually have to increase the width of the hip joints once the hip gimbals are installed. For that I shall have to employ a couple of PVC fittings to house the spheres and fill them with resin so they will take a thread much in the manner of the Lucie hip joints but this much larger model gives me the luxury of two articulation points instead of one that the limited space in Lucie provided.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 14:35:41
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Looking good as always, and I can never fault your logic!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 15:10:10
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I like it a lot but can't help but think that the legs themselves could stand to be a little wider from side to side...
But it isn't put together and I am sure it will all come out well in the end. I know you know what you are doing....
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 15:14:06
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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WOW! That looks sooooooooooo good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 20:50:06
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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mxwllmdr wrote:I like it a lot but can't help but think that the legs themselves could stand to be a little wider from side to side... But it isn't put together and I am sure it will all come out well in the end. I know you know what you are doing.... We'll see but this is my interpretation and going by the visual evidence the width of the legs appear rather thin. I'm sure once the hydraulic cylinders and armour are installed the legs will flesh out to the requisite robustness Or fail to do so. BTW the consensus of opinion was that my dear Lucie's legs were too scrawny but it turns out she is a virtual wombat compared to the anorexic FW Warhound. In my day a woman with thick legs was called a Wombat. I loves nicely rounded legs. Just saying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 21:24:55
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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At first, I had the same thought of "wow, them's some skinny legs." Then I thought about it some more, and the legs only need to be think enough to have stairwells and be structurally sound. the bulk of the thickness does come from the hydraulics and then the forward leg armor.
I say stairwells solely from a scene in Titanicus where skitarii board a Warlord via access points near the feet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 21:34:42
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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It's all a matter of prospective. I have images that show the upper and lower legs are not much (about 6 MM) wider than the knee and ankle discs. A little armour and they are sufficiently Rubenesque. Of course you may take issue with the DS original as well but then I shall have to consign you to being afflicted with terminal dementia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 07:23:19
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I think my concerns stem from the fact that the leg armour isn't on yet. I believe the legs are fine just waiting on armour.....
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 10:51:26
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Now that the leg issue has been put aside until such time as "The moment of truth" we will further address the manufacture of the pelvis/hip attachment. I found some ideal PVC 1 inch pipe nipple to PVC tubing adapters that fill the bill for the hip joint ideally. There is even an internal shoulder ridge after the threaded portion is cut off to act as the race flange for the gimbal sphere to be retained by. The remaining sleeve is drilled, tapped, and countersunk to receive the 1/4 inch axle screws............ (I apologize for the American Standard measures but there isn't the diversity in hardware available on this side of the pond for me to render this in metric components. There may very well be metric items that equal or exceed the materials used but they are not available to me .)............. As I was saying, using only 1/2 the hip sphere it leaves ample room for the epoxy plug in the end of the sleeve to be threaded and hold the leg attachment screw. I hope to achieve this later today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 09:04:22
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Time for the weekly recap along with a pic in pic comparison with the DS model.
I have to admit waiting for the resin to dry consumed a lot of the production time but I worked my butt off to get to this stage and it's a testament to the durability of this thing that nothing snapped as I slapped the components together.
Now I know the legs look a bit thin but if you look at the comparison shot and mentally remove the armour and spurious hydraulics there is a reasonable case for verisimilitude.
The images are self-explanatory when taken in conjunction with the recent WIP posts but I can explain any area that anyone might be unclear about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 11:14:20
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Excuse my comment Black but...
HOLYFETHINGWOW
...I'm gobsmacked!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 12:06:28
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Black you are one crazy mofo.
The level of detail on that is INSANE!!! And youve only just started to stand her up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 12:58:03
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Yep, I was wrong.....
The legs are fine. You dont anticipate any difficulty with loose fittings at the hips do you? I ask only because I see the yard stick is taped to the hips at the pivot rod. I am assuming you simply don't have it tightened down yet...
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 16:01:52
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Max, I think most of those issues will be solved with the pistons, as they (depending how slack they are) should stop too much motion I'd have thought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 18:27:35
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Hellacious Havoc
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Mind boggling work Black, making all the joints mobile has really paid off, fantastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 18:28:05
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Actually the pistons are just for show and provide no discernible friction to stabilize the joints. The screws are only installed temporarily and do not have thread lock to secure the joints. The leg sprawl limit stops are press fittied into the hip drums but not epoxied in place so they can be popped out readily for now. The whole thing is like a house of cards stability-wise hence the yardstick to support it erect. But even as it is it will stand on it's own I just didn't want to make a choice of catching it or dropping the camera if the joints gave way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 18:49:04
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I think you made the right choic....
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 19:27:08
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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As you may know I post on a lot of fora and the question/criticism I get most often is that the legs look too thin. When I was building Lucie that was the most frequent observation and I appreciated the kind intent to warn me of impending mistakes. It turns out that I kept increasing the cross section of Lucie's legs until I realized a reference namely the banners on the knee segment. It turns out that Lucie's appendages are much more robust than the FW model and the latter looks anorexic vis-à-vis Lucie. Now the same concern is being voiced regarding this model and I do appreciate the critique; I'm also a bit anxious about it so I 'shopped the DS leg from the back removing all the front armour and if anything the legs actually look thinner than my titan's. I couldn't remove the hydraulics. http://i.imgur.com/Kgq0Z.jpg There are a few inconsistencies as my ankle disc is thicker than his but I needed that to make the ankle flex. and I have one more dart in the zipper-like design running over the front and back of the upper leg but thats just a matter of artistic interpretation as there are only five or six on the epic model. So to paraphrase the line of 'The Black Adder' in the Infanta's Beard episode, "So Percy, what you are telling me is something you've never seen is slightly less thick than something else you've never seen." The incorrigible Blackadder
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 21:52:46
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Haha they look fine Black.
Lucius patterns always look fairly stick like before the armour goes on, and even when it is on, from the back they still clearly have thin legs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 17:25:58
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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This just in:
New information regarding the size of the legs:
The fine line of madness seems to be serving me in good stead. My son on return from college apprises me that there is a perfect Leman Russ component that will verify or refute the scale and width of the leg components.
He recognized right off that the ankle disc leveling device on the DS Warlord is actually the dozer blade actuator of the Leman Russ item 4 on the image below and that all I need do is apply it to the rear of the lower leg to determine if my eye was off or on regarding the width of the DS model.
http://i.imgur.com/dP8Gd.jpg
The images below vindicate my perception at least regarding the lower leg width as it appears that I cannot be off by more than the tiniest fraction of a millimeter,. whew!
http://i.imgur.com/bATIm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sfSNd.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 17:30:19
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Fantastic. See I knew that I was gonna be proven wrong on the thickness of the legs issue....
so are you gonna apply them permenantly or just use it for the vindication your genius deserves?
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 17:39:20
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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loving the progress keep it up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 17:56:40
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Not only did my son apprise me of the Russ bitz which I deemed rather crude in execution BTW but he showed me a box of panels from a 'City of the Dead' kit. They are identical to much of the detail appurtenances affixed to the hull and carapace of the DS model including some of the items I have already scratched. Now heres the dilemma, do I take a short cut and compromise my scratch model or do I replicate the bitz and add years to the construction???????????????????????
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 17:59:17
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Well imo, you've come this far on scratch build... it'd be a shame to take short-cuts now. but thats what I'd do, and I'm insane...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 18:04:32
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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The_Blackadder wrote:Not only did my son apprise me of the Russ bitz which I deemed rather crude in exicution BTW but he showed me a box of panels from a 'City of the Dead' kit. They are identical to much of the detail appurtenances affixed to the hull and carapace of the DS model including some of the items I have already scratched.
Now heres the dilemma, do I take a short cut and compromise my scratch model or do I replicate the bitz and add years to the construction???????????????????????
progress must even sometimes take a step in the hasty direction. if its small like detail do it...if its to much skip it go scratch
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