To the barricades! (Civil Disobediance in D.C.)

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**KalashnikovMarine**

Hot on the heels (err... Mudflaps) of the Million Trucker March this week, a very large group of American veterans have descended on Washington D.C. and are dismantling the barricades around the WW2, Vietnam and Korean war memorials. I don't have a news source for this as this is happening right now. Here's photographic evidence though.

**Ouze**

Probably the best thing about this shutdown is the coining of the term "Barrycades", which I think is hilarious regardless of ideology.

PS where are pictures of the million truckers? That sounds like a whole lot, I'd like to see that.

**yeri**

All right! It's about time those clowns on the right and those jokers on the left heard from real America! Thank these guys for their continuing service if you can. Honestly if they let us default I've got my own little bit of civil disobedience i'm planning. I'm trying to convince a family friend who's a judge to issue aresst warrants on the president, the cabinet, every member of congress, and every lobbiest we can get our hands on for charges of high treason. If they won't talk as free men, well I think being cellies would give Obama and Bohner plenty of time to talk waiting for arraignment.

**Ouze**

yeri wrote:
I'm trying to convince a family friend who's a judge to issue aresst warrants on the president, the cabinet, every member of congress, and every lobbiest we can get our hands on for charges of high treason.

Please make sure you post on youtube the video of those warrants being serviced. I think the public would want to see that.

**yeri**

YouTube? Naw right now the main problem is finding enough people willing to be deputized to serve the warrants. I've studied the law on this and it would be perfectly legal to do this, but just in case somebody tries to stop us I'm basically going to alert the major media sources and have them show it live as the deputies make the arrests. Noting would play better in the press than a lawmaker trying to avoid a perfectly legal warrant with the whole thing playing out on live television. Good thing I know the director of diversity at one of the networks who can tell them I'm not just some cook.

**KalashnikovMarine**

I had a great photo of big rigs clogging up D.C. traffic but I'm not finding it Ouze.

**Ouze**

yeri wrote:
Good thing I know the director of diversity at one of the networks who can tell them I'm not just some cook.

Just a cook, you say?

**yeri**

Sorry I tried to type kook, but my phone corrected me. The wifi where I am is under matinance so I'm having to type on my phone.

**Ouze**

yeri wrote:
Sorry I tried to type kook, but my phone corrected me.

The way you said it the first time was way better, action movie wise.

**Seaward**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I had a great photo of big rigs clogging up D.C. traffic but I'm not finding it Ouze.

To be fair, as someone who lives there, that could just be any given weekday.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Typical @#$%.

Whine about the monuments and not being able to get what you want now.

Not a word about the good folks home without a paycheck who'd love to working and keeping the parks and monuments open.

Nor the vets who are not getting benefits, meals on wheels etc because of the shutdown.

Short-sighted, focused on me, me, me and with not awareness of the whys or hows.

This is why the country is going down the tubes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protesters-reopen-world-war-ii-memorial-on-national-mall-thats-closed-for-govt-shutdown/2013/10/13/0d781264-341d-11e3-89db-8002ba99b894_story.html?hpid=z3

Oh and Sarah Palin is there too...

**yeri**

wow CNN is just now starting to cover the thing at the memorial, pat yourself on the back dakka, because we just scooped the news!

**Forar**

Sadly, the "million" truckers failed to materialize. I've heard reports of 15-40 or so rigs and vehicles with stickers identifying themselves as part of the cause. Apparently 4 of them drove abreast for a while, bringing traffic down to 15mph for a bit (which from what I've heard about DC highways, may have actually been an improvement), until police pulled them over and asked them to knock it off. Far as I know no charges were laid and they went on their way.

Man, what happened to shutting down traffic for days and arresting congress!?!

Buncha RINOs over there.

**d-usa**

Veterans breaking the laws because they are special...

**whembly**

"Barrycades"??? o.O WTF? That's creative.

Anyhoo... the local NBC affiliate is covering this.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Vets-Plan-Rally-at-World-War-II-Memorial-227574101.html

**d-usa**

yeri wrote:
wow CNN is just now starting to cover the thing at the memorial, pat yourself on the back dakka, because we just scooped the news!

They started to cover this yesterday.

Maybe your friend should issue arrest warrants for you because you don't pay attention to the news enough...

**nkelsch**

The truckers were mildly annoying, the funny thing is, they can't do anything DC beltway traffic already does, Most of them got stuck in traffic as we have been having terrible constant rain for a week and just burned their own money and fuel opposed to causing traffic.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Typical @#$%.

Whine about the monuments and not being able to get what you want now.

Not a word about the good folks home without a paycheck who'd love to working and keeping the parks and monuments open.

Nor the vets who are not getting benefits, meals on wheels etc because of the shutdown.

Short-sighted, focused on me, me, me and with not awareness of the whys or hows.

This is why the country is going down the tubes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protesters-reopen-world-war-ii-memorial-on-national-mall-thats-closed-for-govt-shutdown/2013/10/13/0d781264-341d-11e3-89db-8002ba99b894_story.html?hpid=z3

Oh and Sarah Palin is there too...

You mean the Veterans who are... at that protest performing a symbolic act of civil disobedience in the face of a serious pile of gak from our federal government? Maybe you're not looking out enough KK.

**Kid_Kyoto**

If they were serious they'd be at Capital Hill, a whole 4 blocks away.

Y'know. They place where the people who can pass a budget are?

Oh it gets better!

The House took the weekend off!

Apparently there's nothing important going on...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/government-shutdown-debate-grates-on-congress-members-moods/2013/10/12/6ad8b740-336b-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_story.html

**Spacemanvic**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Typical @#$%.

Whine about the monuments and not being able to get what you want now.

Not a word about the good folks home without a paycheck who'd love to working and keeping the parks and monuments open.

Nor the vets who are not getting benefits, meals on wheels etc because of the shutdown.

Short-sighted, focused on me, me, me and with not awareness of the whys or hows.

This is why the country is going down the tubes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protesters-reopen-world-war-ii-memorial-on-national-mall-thats-closed-for-govt-shutdown/2013/10/13/0d781264-341d-11e3-89db-8002ba99b894_story.html?hpid=z3

Oh and Sarah Palin is there too...

Hey OhBahMuh:

You built the shutdown, now OWN IT!

**Ouze**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Oh and Sarah Palin is there too...

Well, obviously. There are cameras there.

whembly wrote:"Barrycades"??? o.O WTF? That's creative

Right? I laughed my ass off when I first read that. It goes well with this picture:

a fried used when posting a theory that Obama killed Brietbart and Tom Clancy.

**Spacemanvic**

d-usa wrote:
Veterans breaking the laws because they are special...

That would be this:

They have 'em....

**MrMoustaffa**

Spacemanvic wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Veterans breaking the laws because they are special...

That would be this:

They have 'em....

I don't think I'd want to watch a bunch of hot and sweaty truckers play volleyball (or worse tennis)

that would probably be a more effective protest than clogging up traffic...

**d-usa**

Spacemanvic wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Veterans breaking the laws because they are special...

That would be this:

They have 'em....

They should be having these:

I'm sorry, but I have zero sympathy for the people who think that laws and rules don't apply to them anymore because they are veterans. They go on the same pile as the veterans who piss and moan when they find out that they cannot fly a flag at their house because they were too lazy to read the contract that they signed before they purchased a house in a neighborhood with a HOA. Break the law, get arrested. I'm just going to guess that a lot of the people supporting these actions, and even committing these actions, were supporting this guy 100% when he dealt with this "civil disobedience" nonsense:

Because kids sitting on a sidewalk doing some civil disobedience = pepper spray and arrest those dirty hippies!
Kids storming DC and the national mall tearing down barriers in a case of civil disobedience = pepper spray and arrest those dirty hipp.....what? Those are not dirty hippies? The people breaking the law are veterans? Get some cameras on those guys that are heroes!

If only there was something lawful, useful, and something with far more impact these people could be doing.

Maybe they could cook a meal today for their fellow veterans who are homeless and going hungry because their benefits are affected by this shutdown:

25% of our homeless population are veterans.

Maybe they could be volunteering at the VA today, helping out injured veterans there. You know how many of these guys would be absolutely thrilled to have somebody come and help them get down to the smoking area and talk to them while they are down there?

It's a sad state of affairs when we celebrate these clowns for breaking the law.

How much more of an impact would it have made if these veterans would have come together at the capitols of their respective states to collect supplies for their homeless fellow veterans and cook a meal for them. But instead of a nice camera shot of a parking lot filled with homeless veterans being cared for by their fellow veterans and current members of their military while giving interviews about "DC has abandoned us, we take care of our own if these idiots will not take care of us!" we get camera shots of guys going "we are breaking the law, now we can hang out at a memorial lulz".

**Spacemanvic**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If they were serious they'd be at Capital Hill, a whole 4 blocks away.

Y'know. They place where the people who can pass a budget are?

Oh it gets better!

The House took the weekend off!

Apparently there's nothing important going on...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/government-shutdown-debate-grates-on-congress-members-moods/2013/10/12/6ad8b740-336b-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_story.html

The protestors are serious. They dropped off the Barrycades where they belong: at the White House.

**Seaward**

d-usa wrote:
How much more of an impact would it have made if these veterans would have come together at the capitols of their respective states to collect supplies for their homeless fellow veterans and cook a meal for them. But instead of a nice camera shot of a parking lot filled with homeless veterans being cared for by their fellow veterans and current members of their military while giving interviews about "DC has abandoned us, we take care of our own if these idiots will not take care of us!" we get camera shots of guys going "we are breaking the law, now we can hang out at a memorial lulz".

They went for the coverage.

**Spacemanvic**

d-usa wrote:
Spacemanvic wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Veterans breaking the laws because they are special...

That would be this:

They have 'em....

They should be having these:

I'm sorry, but I have zero sympathy for the people who think that laws and rules don't apply to them anymore because they are veterans. They go on the same pile as the veterans who piss and moan when they find out that they cannot fly a flag at their house because they were too lazy to read the contract that they signed before they purchased a house in a neighborhood with a HOA. Break the law, get arrested. I'm just going to guess that a lot of the people supporting these actions, and even committing these actions, were supporting this guy 100% when he dealt with this "civil disobedience" nonsense:

Because kids sitting on a sidewalk doing some civil disobedience = pepper spray and arrest those dirty hippies!
Kids storming DC and the national mall tearing down barriers in a case of civil disobedience = pepper spray and arrest those dirty hipp.....what? Those are not dirty hippies? The people breaking the law are veterans? Get some cameras on those guys that are heroes!

If only there was something lawful, useful, and something with far more impact these people could be doing.

Maybe they could cook a meal today for their fellow veterans who are homeless and going hungry because their benefits are affected by this shutdown:

25% of our homeless population are veterans.

Maybe they could be volunteering at the VA today, helping out injured veterans there. You know how many of these guys would be absolutely thrilled to have somebody come and help them get down to the smoking area and talk to them while they are down there?

It's a sad state of affairs when we celebrate these clowns for breaking the law.

How much more of an impact would it have made if these veterans would have come together at the capitols of their respective states to collect supplies for their homeless fellow veterans and cook a meal for them. But instead of a nice camera shot of a parking lot filled with homeless veterans being cared for by their fellow veterans and current members of their military while giving interviews about "DC has abandoned us, we take care of our own if these idiots will not take care of us!" we get camera shots of guys going "we are breaking the law, now we can hang out at a memorial lulz".

Wait, the Resident of the United States throws a hissyfit and locks down the monuments and that is supposed to be "The law"?

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Seaward wrote:
d-usa wrote:
How much more of an impact would it have made if these veterans would have come together at the capitols of their respective states to collect supplies for their homeless fellow veterans and cook a meal for them. But instead of a nice camera shot of a parking lot filled with homeless veterans being cared for by their fellow veterans and current members of their military while giving interviews about "DC has abandoned us, we take care of our own if these idiots will not take care of us!" we get camera shots of guys going "we are breaking the law, now we can hang out at a memorial lulz".

They went for the coverage.

Considering the coverage OhBlameOh gets from the media, its about time.

**d-usa**

Spacemanvic wrote:

Wait, the Resident of the United States throws a hissyfit and locks down the monuments and that is supposed to be "The law"?
...
Considering the coverage OhBlameOh gets from the media, its about time.

Oh man, those awesome clever posts totally disputed and countered any argument that these guys could be doing something useful instead of breaking the law and resulting in absolutely nothing at all.

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Seaward wrote:
d-usa wrote:
How much more of an impact would it have made if these veterans would have come together at the capitols of their respective states to collect supplies for their homeless fellow veterans and cook a meal for them. But instead of a nice camera shot of a parking lot filled with homeless veterans being cared for by their fellow veterans and current members of their military while giving interviews about "DC has abandoned us, we take care of our own if these idiots will not take care of us!" we get camera shots of guys going "we are breaking the law, now we can hang out at a memorial lulz".

They went for the coverage.

So they don't actually care about anything? A photo-op is more important than actually physically taking care of their fellow veteran?

**Kid_Kyoto**

Um does no one read the Constitution any more?

Budgets are Congress' job, they can't pass one, the President cannot by law spend money.

You want to know who built this shutdown look at the other end of Pennsylvania Ave.

**Spacemanvic**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Um does no one read the Constitution any more?

Budgets are Congress' job, they can't pass one, the President cannot by law spend money.

You want to know who built this shutdown look at the other end of Pennsylvania Ave.

Uh, they have, the Democrat controlled Senate has rejected all of them. Nice try though!