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Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Or we could just acknowledge the fact that the mechanic in general is not the issue, the way it was implemented in 7th edition was.

That's what I've been saying. This is why I advocate fixing specific rules rather than sledgehammer 'fixes' to general rules.

The general rule wasn't the problem. The specific use and application of that rule was.

 Crazyterran wrote:
I assumed the disappeared Tau Expansion is to give a fluff reason for why Tau are fighting things on the other side of the Rift, since there would be no way across it for them otherwise.

Oh good point, I imagine we are going to see a bit of this to justify why certain parties are on the "Wrong" side of the rift.

 Rippy wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

Aeri wrote:
Since GW Stated that Evers faction will have a viable psychic phase, maybe this is how Tau get theirs?

I think they clarified on Facebook afterwards that Tau (and Necron and Dark Elder) won't have Psykers still.

Yes, I believe they more meant to say "Every faction that has psykers, will have a viable psychic phase"

I can't wait for ork psykers to be more than a comedy interlude that makes any two of the following explode: himself, his unit, an enemy unit.

Some non-shooting attacks would be awesome for a change, or at least having them hit automatically like the buffed smite we have seen on the rubric sorcerer.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

Aeri wrote:
Since GW Stated that Evers faction will have a viable psychic phase, maybe this is how Tau get theirs?

I think they clarified on Facebook afterwards that Tau (and Necron and Dark Elder) won't have Psykers still.

Yes, I believe they more meant to say "Every faction that has psykers, will have a viable psychic phase"

I can't wait for ork psykers to be more than a comedy interlude that makes any two of the following explode: himself, his unit, an enemy unit.

Some non-shooting attacks would be awesome for a change, or at least having them hit automatically like the nerfed smite we have seen on the rubric sorcerer.

Lady atia has spoken on warforsigmar. "Let's say so much - you will be getting some new tau stuff that's not directly part of the t'au empire "

Hype.

I am loving all the new artwork that is coming out with 8th stuff.

Like these two from the T'au article (jumping on that name bandwagon)



Like at that cute badass just strolling in

And then this one:

Yeah, dunno about the assassin picture but that second one is not new by any stretch. It is a great picture though.

The second image is from the current CSM codex, not a new piece of art.

The bottom one is definitely not new. GW nowadays only seems to do digital art nowadays.

 Rippy wrote:
I am loving all the new artwork that is coming out with 8th stuff.

Like these two from the T'au article (jumping on that name bandwagon)



Like at that cute badass just strolling in

And then this one:

deathtoanime.jpg

I thought Tau had no psychic presence, thus qould be unafected by the culexus...

Apart from that, I wonder if the Vespid will get a plastic kit or will we see some new races?

Forgive me if this is OT, but I'm kind of puzzled.

Of all the races of 40k, 3 stand out as psyker neutral - Necrons, Dark Eldar and Tau. The Necrons because they don't have a soul or flesh, the Dark Eldar because they dispose anyone who does psychic powers due to their history, and the Tau due to their young age.

But, does that mean these armies will get psychic defenses, rather than a psychic phase? My worry is that for all the strengths these armies have, it might be easy to counter with some psychic shenanigans, with no way themselves to stop it.

My hope is that in the case of the Necrons and Tau they get built in resilience to psychic attacks/effects, and the Dark Eldar get some... Painful gear to put the hurt on psykers.

Your thoughts guys?

Neither image is new. The first one is actually from Mont'ka campaign book.

Stormcasts don't have wizards in AoS, but they have models that can dispell like wizards.

The T'au do have psychic flat polar bears.

Well the story is that the imperium has been studying the Tau to figure out why there are immune to psychics and the effects of chaos, perhaps they figured something out and made an anti-tau weapon that affects whatever system the Ethereals use to have sway over the other Tau. (I still think it's some sort of pheromone) If they did figure this out, the Culuxes Assassin is the idea delivery mechanism.

Oh woops, I should have guessed they wouldn't be making new artwork in such quantity

Tau aren't immune to psychic powers, otherwise they'd be a race of blanks, and they're not.

They have a limited presence in the Warp, making them far harder to hurt/detect. They're not all pariahs.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Tau aren't immune to psychic powers, otherwise they'd be a race of blanks, and they're not.

They have a limited presence in the Warp, making them far harder to hurt/detect. They're not all pariahs.

Speaking of Pariahs....
I wish they returned in 8th...
Necrons need them

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Tau aren't immune to psychic powers, otherwise they'd be a race of blanks, and they're not.

They have a limited presence in the Warp, making them far harder to hurt/detect. They're not all pariahs.

They have no more resistance to psychic attackes than anything else - in fact psykers are extremely effective against the Tau - see recent Damocles campaign from which the Assassin picture is from

Imperial Assassins are sent in to decapitate the Tau command structure - head Ethereal, Farsight and Shadowsun - only one of them succeeds in his mission

Tau are "blunt" so pure warp entities can not easily perceive them but a normal psyker using normal vision can target them just fine.

The Tau get defeated in detail on Voltoris thanks partially to a psyxhxi fog blocking the Tau sensors from detecting the ambush.

They probsbly would have been completely wiped out if the Stormseer hadnt bitten it.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Tau are "blunt" so pure warp entities can not easily perceive them but a normal psyker using normal vision can target them just fine.

"Blunt" is a good way to put it actually.

To really affect a Tau in the same way they mess with humans, a Daemon would really need to grind away at a Tau for some time. I mean in Firewarrior it's a Daemon Prince giving Kais this seemingly heroic ability to fight untold odds (an in-universe explanation as to why one Firewarrior could do all that), and Kais does start to crack by the end, but a Daemon Prince doing that to a human would have done it in no time.

We're... weaker, in that regard.

Nevermind Sister blood, Grey Knights need them some Tau blood.

The Tau have a presence in the Warp because they're living creatures (humans only throw up psychic blanks because of the artificially introduced Pariah gene). But they don't burn brightly and have no pskers because, I would speculate, their species has never been exposed to the Warp. Remember that every human in the Imperium is descended from colonists who crossed the Immaterium millennia ago*, so that potential is written into their hereditary.

So if Tau ever start using proper Warp drives, they'll eventually evolve into a psychic race. Culexus Assassins still freak them out though because they're alive.

*In theory, there could be people on Terra whose entire lineage never left Earth at all, but that's a infinitesimally small proportion of the whole population of the Imperium.

Given that humans had psykers 10k years before Christ, I don't think Warp travel has anything to do with human psyker potential.

Back on topic now please - plenty of other places to discuss all things...T'au fluff related.

 Freddy Kruger wrote:
Forgive me if this is OT, but I'm kind of puzzled.

Of all the races of 40k, 3 stand out as psyker neutral - Necrons, Dark Eldar and Tau. The Necrons because they don't have a soul or flesh, the Dark Eldar because they dispose anyone who does psychic powers due to their history, and the Tau due to their young age.

But, does that mean these armies will get psychic defenses, rather than a psychic phase? My worry is that for all the strengths these armies have, it might be easy to counter with some psychic shenanigans, with no way themselves to stop it.

My hope is that in the case of the Necrons and Tau they get built in resilience to psychic attacks/effects, and the Dark Eldar get some... Painful gear to put the hurt on psykers.

Your thoughts guys?

Well for Tau, I think this is the perfect opportunity to get some psychic auxiliaries in. The auxiliaries could use some love. Necron's should get a resistance to psychic powers, being soulless and with warp dampening tec and all. Dark Eldar could get bonuses to attacking psykers, since they're their favorite playthings.

EDIT:

I've been out of the loop for a few days. What's set to be unveiled tomorrow?

Strategems are next!

Just a heads up to anyone: Apparently, the Gathering Storm books are NOT included in their voucher program.

Kind of disingenuous...

 eauxlune wrote:
Strategems are next!

Just a heads up to anyone: Apparently, the Gathering Storm books are NOT included in their voucher program.

Kind of disingenuous...

They aren't codexes, so why would they be?

 eauxlune wrote:
Strategems are next!

Just a heads up to anyone: Apparently, the Gathering Storm books are NOT included in their voucher program.

Kind of disingenuous...

Probably because they're not codexes or the core rules books but are campaign books.

Them giving any kind of voucher is still a huge step forward from the GW of the past. Used to be they sold theold stuff at fll price ntil he last seond and if you didn't know the new editon was coming tough luck.