Dark Elf rumours (now includes pics of all 2nd wave models)

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**Sidstyler**

So in other words, GW finally puts out a kit of high-enough quality to match the bs prices they're charging, and then jacks the prices up even higher so you still can't afford it.

$60 for ten models is fething stupid, and I seriously can't believe things have gotten that bad. Not touching WHF ever again and glad I sold what little Dark Elves I had months ago, there's no way in hell I could ever build an army of them. Wonder how long it'll be before we see our first $100 infantry box, it surely can't be that far down the road now.

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Not sure if its the meds talking, but I'm sold... off to GW tomorrow to pre-order a limited Dark Elf book.

**S'jet**

Gotta hand it to GW, the price aside, those are the best females they've done.

**Kanluwen**

Shadowblade looks even better in the 360 degree view.
The Beastmasters for the Hydra kit are almost as good as the monster itself, IMO.

Also it looks like they took the Lothern Sea Guard approach but expanded it a bit with the Warriors. Simple models with a few body options for your "command" that can also be used with some clever bits/swaps as rank and file.

**Scrub**

Beautiful minis, I'm going to go ahead and buy a DE army but I sorted out my core with some cheap Corsairs bought off of ebay in anticipation of this release, I'll be patiently waiting for the next wave before deciding how big this army gets though, monsters and such will come from other companies.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod2240073a

That picture really puts it into perspective how expensive the GW hobby has become for me, I don't mean to be a negative ned but that pic really did make me look twice.

I still love the models, just can't afford 'em at those prices. Even at discounters it's a bit much to stomach! I can see myself spending £80 to round things off with GW minis, in all honesty.

**Kroothawk**

Witches are indeed listed as core and Kharibdyss plus Bolt Throwers as Special.

Also here the mail order shields:

Warrior box, Witch box and these shields all contain one Dark Elf transfer sheet with nice Elvish Runes.

**Eldarain**

Scrub wrote:
Beautiful minis, I'm going to go ahead and buy a DE army but I sorted out my core with some cheap Corsairs bought off of ebay in anticipation of this release, I'll be patiently waiting for the next wave before deciding how big this army gets though, monsters and such will come from other companies.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod2240073a

That picture really puts it into perspective how expensive the GW hobby has become for me, I don't mean to be a negative ned but that pic really did make me look twice.

I still love the models, just can't afford 'em at those prices. Even at discounters it's a bit much to stomach! I can see myself spending £80 to round things off with GW minis, in all honesty.

Yeah very nice models but the prices are really getting crazy now.

I might be wrong but given the way 8th works that link essentially gets you one unit? Yikes!

**S'jet**

Kroothawk wrote:
Witches are indeed listed as core and Hydra plus Bolt Throwers as Special.

And Sisters of Slaughter look to be Rare.

**Sidstyler**

Eldarain wrote:
I might be wrong but given the way 8th works that link essentially gets you one unit? Yikes!

Yeah. It's not hard to spend upwards of $1000 or more on a Fantasy army (a real army, not this "one of everything"-style crap which is how GW thinks people play the game), and with prices going up like this it'll only get worse.

WHF in its current state isn't even worth playing anyway so I'd say save your money, but that's just me.

**pretre**

Sidstyler wrote:
$60 for ten models is fething stupid, and I seriously can't believe things have gotten that bad.

You know that they are cheaper now right. They were 66 or so for 10 before the new kit.

And wow! Those look great.

**Sidstyler**

pretre wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:
$60 for ten models is fething stupid, and I seriously can't believe things have gotten that bad.

You know that they are cheaper now right. They were 66 or so for 10 before the new kit.

So? They were overpriced before, and they're overpriced now. Six whole dollars doesn't really make much of a difference.

They also weren't a core choice before IIRC, so it was unlikely people would build an army of them anyway. GW expects you to build armies of them now and at $60 a box that isn't really doable.

**Kroothawk**

pretre wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:
$60 for ten models is fething stupid, and I seriously can't believe things have gotten that bad.

You know that they are cheaper now right. They were 66 or so for 10 before the new kit.

Again, one year ago in Germany, metal Witches were cheaper than todays plastic witches.

**S'jet**

Seems like you'll get 50% more sprue in the Witches box, compared to the "Warrior" and Corsair boxes. Maybe that accounts for some of the price?

**iproxtaco**

35 quid for that? Are GW deliberately taking the piss now? That's twice as much than they should be. That's 20 pounds more than Corsairs, almost double the price of boxes like Kabalite Warriors and Wyches, and only a pound cheaper than a freaking Trygon. They look good, but so do a lot of things that are way cheaper. A lot of people are going to be buying two or more boxes. For the same money, or less, you can buy a battleforce.

**Soteks Prophet**

That only helps GW though, it's still 10 models, lots of monopose. Yes its a dual kit, but you can only build one type of warrior. So its £35 for 10. That's £3.50 for a plastic soldier. That is too expensive.

**corgan**

Am I wrong or the price of "The Cult of Khaine" box set is more expensive than if buying the boxes separately?

**S'jet**

corgan wrote:
Am I wrong or the price of "The Cult of Khaine" box set is more expensive than if buying the boxes seperately?

The decription mentions a Sorceress, but the item list and pic leaves it out. That makes up the difference.

**iproxtaco**

corgan wrote:
Am I wrong or the price of "The Cult of Khaine" box set is more expensive than if buying the boxes separately?

Wow, you're actually right. It's nine pounds more expensive in the UK.

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S'jet wrote:
corgan wrote:
Am I wrong or the price of "The Cult of Khaine" box set is more expensive than if buying the boxes seperately?

The decription mentions a Sorceress, but the item list and pic leaves it out. That makes up the difference.

The Sorceress mentioned in the description is part of the Cauldron of Blood.

**Overread**

My only annoyance is that the medusa isn't appearing in this wave of releases as a separate miniature - I hope it will appear as such in the near future because otherwise I foresee them being like gold-dust from broken down kits on Ebay.

**corgan**

S'jet wrote:
corgan wrote:
Am I wrong or the price of "The Cult of Khaine" box set is more expensive than if buying the boxes seperately?

The decription mentions a Sorceress, but the item list and pic leaves it out. That makes up the difference.

Probably you are right but this is what I read in the description:"It contains 4 boxes of Witch Elves/Sisters of Slaughter; and 1Cauldron of Blood/Bloodwrack Shrine."

**d-usa**

That 360 of the Hydra isn't helping it much. I do hope that a good paint job will improve it.

**S'jet**

iproxtaco wrote:
The Sorceress mentioned in the description is part of the Cauldron of Blood.

Well Death Hag's arn't sorceress'. Its a Death Hag on top of the cauldron, and the plastic sorceress happens to be £9, which is the difference.

It's obviously not certain, but that seems to be whats going on there.

**jojo_monkey_boy**

Amazing. The warriors are 50% more expensive than they were in the previous box. The core of the army. 50%!

Dear GW,
This is how you dissuade me from buying your products.
Sincerely,
Jojo

**corgan**

S'jet wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
The Sorceress mentioned in the description is part of the Cauldron of Blood.

Well Death Hag's arn't sorceress'. Its a Death Hag on top of the cauldron, and the plastic sorceress happens to be £9, which is the difference.

It's obviously not certain, but that seems to be whats going on there.

So even in that case, no discount at all for mass buying? Strange marketing tactics.

**Tsilber**

Models are great, ill pay for em. Lets face it, their are plenty of places online you can get 25-30% off, or win some store credit at local gamiong stores in various tourneys...

On GW right now, their are no Black Guard or Executioneers... Think this will be the first time this year they do a double release?

**streetsamurai**

d-usa wrote:
That 360 of the Hydra isn't helping it much. I do hope that a good paint job will improve it.

I disagree, since I actually like the Hydra now that i've seen it 360. I still think the booby claws look ridiculous, but it shouldn't be too hard to trimmed them off

**pretre**

Kroothawk wrote:
pretre wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:
$60 for ten models is fething stupid, and I seriously can't believe things have gotten that bad.

You know that they are cheaper now right. They were 66 or so for 10 before the new kit.

Again, one year ago in Germany, metal Witches were cheaper than todays plastic witches.

He's talking dollars.

**streetsamurai**

Warseer has posted the pics of the executionners and black guards, they are in the sample of the itune painting guide. From what I can see, they look great, especially the executionners.. Supposedly, there is also a pic of the darkriders in it.

**Kanluwen**

Noticed this:

Games Workshop wrote:What is the competition?

Every month we will give one lucky Hobbyist the chance to have one of their painted miniatures (or squads, or regiments...) immortalised on the Games Workshop website. We will nominate one newly released Citadel miniature (or set of miniatures) for you to paint and set a deadline for you to submit a photo of it to us. We will choose our favourite from all submissions received and add that photo to that model kit's product page on our website where it will stay for as long as that product stays in our range. From that point on, every single person who views that model on our website will see your handiwork! We'll even include your name in the photo, so everyone knows whose painting they're admiring.

Your submission will also be featured in the White Dwarf Daily blog, where we will reveal each month's winner.

This month's miniature:

This month we have chosen the mighty Dark Elves Kharibdyss/War Hydra for you to paint. You can assemble and paint your kit as either model and submit it for judging.

So what are the rules?

Please note that the full legal guidelines for this competition can be found at the end of this article.

Each month we will select a miniature, or set of miniatures, and a deadline for photo submissions. All photographs sent to us by this deadline will be entered into the competition, and we will pick our favourite as that month's winner.

The deadline for this month's competition is 23:59 (GMT) on Sunday 20th October. The winner will be granted eternal glory (and you'll be the envy of your mates).

There are some simple rules to follow:

The miniature must be assembled straight from the box. There can be no conversions, or kit-bashes using components from other kits.
The miniature(s) must be assembled on the base(s) that they are supplied with.
The miniature(s) must be fully painted, including the base.
You must include your name with your submission!

Our choice of 'favourite' is solely at our discretion, and once announced on the website our decision is final.

What picture quality do we expect?

You'll need to email us a photograph of your miniature so that we can judge the eventual winner. To help us do this you will need to do the following:

Send us the highest resolution photo possible.
All miniatures should be photographed on a white background.
Send us the raw, unedited files. You don't need to clip, or do any digital magic to your photographs.

How do I enter?

Simply send your photograph to the following email address:
team@whitedwarf.co.uk

Title your email "webstore painting competition", so that we know what it's for.

Link here

Sorry for the wall of text, but I quite like that they are starting to do this. I just wish they were not starting with the Hydra.

**silent25**

streetsamurai wrote:
Warseer has posted the pics of the executionners and black guards, they are in the sample of the itune painting guide. From what I can see, they look great, especially the executionners.. Supposedly, there is also a pic of the darkriders in it.

Ugh... I'm not liking the executioners. Don't like the masks. The Black Guard are very similar to the current ones.