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2014/01/23 09:24:10
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
On an unrelated note expect a fair amount of metal models to disappear from sale within the next two ish months as gw is melting down metal stock again and selling it off.
It may not be all of the metal, but fingers crossed this and the weekly releases will mean they finally convert to plastic and can do it without needing to do a new sisters codex as they have in the past (Which we would surely have heard about).
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
2014/01/23 09:58:47
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Hardly a rumour. This has been ongoing for a while now. Metals are being given the boot from GW. This was most noticeable with the ending of Specialist Games (predominately metal).
Personally, I feel switching away from metals puts off the collector. Yes, you can collect resin, but I have a feeling that Finecast and it's quality aren't really collector material. A quick glance at the CCM wiki and the myriad amounts of metal models just show that the collectors market is quite substantial. Ah well, GW isn't shy about loosing customers
2014/01/23 10:02:09
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
It's the fact that they are supposedly doing another large batch in the next few weeks, not that they are getting rid of metal in general. Last time we saw a whole chunk of specialist games stuff go along with some of the collectors lines and upgrade kits, some of which came back as FC.
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
2014/01/23 10:22:25
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Well, if metal product codes will be going extinct, the Imperial Guard will be gutted, for one thing. They still have no non-metal Elites choices at all (except the paint-them-differently-Veterans). Priests, Tech-priests,psykers (primaris and sanctioned), all commissar variants, several SCs (Pask, Harker, Marbo and Straken) would all go byebye.
It's bad enough that you can't get a lot of the miniatures from retailers, but having no models available anywhere at all is worse. Shades of 2nd edition, when even the Marines were missing Scouts and Land Raiders.
The supply does not get to make the demands.
2014/01/23 10:31:38
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Agamemnon2 wrote: Well, if metal product codes will be going extinct, the Imperial Guard will be gutted, for one thing. They still have no non-metal Elites choices at all (except the paint-them-differently-Veterans). Priests, Tech-priests,psykers (primaris and sanctioned), all commissar variants, several SCs (Pask, Harker, Marbo and Straken) would all go byebye.
So expect them to be dropped from the Codex I guess.
Agamemnon2 wrote: Well, if metal product codes will be going extinct, the Imperial Guard will be gutted, for one thing. They still have no non-metal Elites choices at all (except the paint-them-differently-Veterans). Priests, Tech-priests,psykers (primaris and sanctioned), all commissar variants, several SCs (Pask, Harker, Marbo and Straken) would all go byebye.
It's bad enough that you can't get a lot of the miniatures from retailers, but having no models available anywhere at all is worse. Shades of 2nd edition, when even the Marines were missing Scouts and Land Raiders.
Well, it would tie in with the rumor of a new guard codex in Feb/March... Get rid of the metal and replace with FC casts or new plastics as appropriate as part of the release as has happened in the past.
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
2014/01/23 10:43:57
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
This could be, yes. It would mean quite a few plastic packs to cover even the characters, though. Commissars, regimental advisors, priests, tech-priests, primaris psyker. Then kits for ogryns and ratlings, stormtroopers and veterans. That's a lot of sprues, and I haven't even gotten to special characters yet.
The supply does not get to make the demands.
2014/01/23 10:46:09
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Eh, maybe not. They've kept the metal models around this long, and they may do so until plastics are good to go.
Steve steveson wrote: It may not be all of the metal, but fingers crossed this and the weekly releases will mean they finally convert to plastic and can do it without needing to do a new sisters codex as they have in the past
I dunno, I expect them to update the Sisters with a traditional model/codex update, rather than drip-feeding us plastics every few weeks. The current AS codex certainly feels like a stopgap anyway.
But hey, if these weekly model releases do give the SoB something, then I certainly won't complain.
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2014/01/23 10:52:42
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Agamemnon2 wrote: Well, if metal product codes will be going extinct, the Imperial Guard will be gutted, for one thing. They still have no non-metal Elites choices at all (except the paint-them-differently-Veterans). Priests, Tech-priests,psykers (primaris and sanctioned), all commissar variants, several SCs (Pask, Harker, Marbo and Straken) would all go byebye.
So expect them to be dropped from the Codex I guess.
I just finished painting up 9 sanctioned psykers and I have practically painted up every metal model they have. If they drop all these choices from the codex I'm not switching to the new codex. I have the luxury that I only play with a group of friends and I am sure they will not object if I stick to my 5th edition IG codex.
Ps. the 5th IG codex is good enough to survive alongside Tau & Eldar codex as long as my friends don't spam Riptides etc. (which they don't so all is good)
I do see marbo getting dropped from the next codex though...
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2014/01/23 11:05:37
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
For some reason I'm just now realising that marbo is an anagram of rambo.
Priests, sanctioned psykers, etc aren't the most difficult thing in the world to convert. Commissars are too core to the IG aesthetic and the fluff to go - practically all the IG stories I've read centre around some Commissar or other, all the way back - so I'd expect a plastic clampack.
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Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2014/01/23 11:41:35
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
zedmeister wrote: Hardly a rumour. This has been ongoing for a while now. Metals are being given the boot from GW. This was most noticeable with the ending of Specialist Games (predominately metal).
Personally, I feel switching away from metals puts off the collector. Yes, you can collect resin, but I have a feeling that Finecast and it's quality aren't really collector material. A quick glance at the CCM wiki and the myriad amounts of metal models just show that the collectors market is quite substantial. Ah well, GW isn't shy about loosing customers
Last time I was looking on eBay, OOP metals were going for more than the RRP of the finecast replacements. That should give an indication of how people feel on the metal/FC front.
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Bull0 wrote: For some reason I'm just now realising that marbo is an anagram of rambo.
I'm pretty sure he won't be back, since he somewhat flies the face of GW's stance that nothing they ever did was ever inspired by anything outside of the GW studio.
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2014/01/23 11:45:38
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Herzlos wrote: Last time I was looking on eBay, OOP metals were going for more than the RRP of the finecast replacements. That should give an indication of how people feel on the metal/FC front..
A big thing is that you can strip metal miniatures so much easier, and while they're harder to work on, the harder material means they withstand the knocks and dings of time better. If given a choice, I would always buy metal over finecast.
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The supply does not get to make the demands.
2014/01/23 11:51:31
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
filbert wrote: Did the fact he is called "SLY" Marbo not give it away
But Sly is not an anagram of John !
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/01/23 12:17:06
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
You'd think they would sell them anonymously on ebay. Instead on melting them down.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
2014/01/23 12:35:14
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Troike wrote: I dunno, I expect them to update the Sisters with a traditional model/codex update, rather than drip-feeding us plastics every few weeks.
Yep. I am expecting a few models for Sister Superior to disappear, though.
Burn, Sister, Burn !
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/01/23 12:38:37
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
The following story from 4chan comes to mind. Be aware, if you are a faithful AS/SOB player do not read as the story will make you question the purity of all around you!
The Steadfast Tin Sororitas
Spoiler:
Deep within the bowls of near eternal darkness, the ten sisters of battle sat within plastic containment. The two stuck together in one pocket of plastic had been good friends for well over a decade now.
"Sister Maria-kun...when will we get to serve the Emperor?" she would ask at least once a week. Ready to hear the comfort from her superior.
"Nisa-chan...soon. Soon we will show them the Emperor's fury." Maria would always reply in a confident tone.
This dance of emotional support spun on for years... one day, though. One day everything shifted. Jostled from sleep, Sister Nisa exclaimed, "Maria! Maria! We're moving! We're going to get to serve the Emperor!"
"Yes Sister Nisa!" replied Maria with excitement.
Soon, light filled their world. The dim blue gray of overhanging light-tubes. The plastic was opened, and the sisters were dumped with their squad into a massive bucket filled with other sisters.
"Maria! Where are you?!" Nisa yelled "Here here, over here!" Maria jostled her way over the other sisters to Nisa, "Surely this will be the largest holy war the Sororitas has ever seen or will see!"
Thousands of Sisters of battle yelled praises to the Emperor as they were dumped into a lead bowl. "A transport?" questioned Maria, as the cold metal touched her. The world moved again, and orange light filled the air and their bucket was placed into an enclosure.
"Its hot Sister Maria-kun! Its hot!" exclaimed Nisa in panic.
"Don't worry Sister Nisa-chan. We will serve the Emperor. We are protected!" she said as pewter droplets began to form on the surface of her armor and roll off into the container. "The Emperor protects!"
That was the last word from the sister as her face boiled away and pooled into the bottom of the container... in a matter of minutes the super heated oven had turned all the Sisters into a pewter bar. Ready to be melted into other forms or separated for its various metals.
Herzlos wrote: Last time I was looking on eBay, OOP metals were going for more than the RRP of the finecast replacements. That should give an indication of how people feel on the metal/FC front..
A big thing is that you can strip metal miniatures so much easier, and while they're harder to work on, the harder material means they withstand the knocks and dings of time better. If given a choice, I would always buy metal over finecast.
Definitely. The only time I'd consider finecast over metal is if the model was so big weight was a problem. In which case I wouldn't want it in fine cast either!
loki old fart wrote: You'd think they would sell them anonymously on ebay. Instead on melting them down.
That's a brilliant idea. It'd work just as well as having a clearance sale (in that it'd clear the stock out almost immediately), but both ideas go against GW (no sales, no internet).
2014/01/23 15:22:11
Subject: Re:Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
2014/01/23 15:26:35
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Alpharius wrote: If true, there's no way this can be seen as a good sign for SoB players...
Though do note that the rumour only claims that a "fair amount" of metal models will be going. It could be that they're just phasing out stuff that they're going to be replacing in the near-future. Besides, suddenly culling them all would be a bit of change when they've historically wanted and attempted to upgrade them to plastics and have just recently given them a new codex (which actually sold well).
Allod wrote: I honestly wasn't aware they even had any metal stock left apart from the Adeptus Sororitas stuff.
There's quite a few non-SoB metal models, actually. More than you'd think.
Allod wrote: So, Sisters are the first army to go the way of the Dodo since LatD, I presume?
Nah, I doubt it. LatD were made for an event, but GW have continually kept the SoB around. And, as I said, this rumour isn't saying that all metal models are going anyway.
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2014/01/23 16:04:06
Subject: Games workshop finaly getting rid of it's metal stock
Well we had the studio comment about the robes being a problem that was made aaaaaaaaages ago, around the DE re-launch so maybe the SoB palstic kits are ready to rock. Hell if the Chaos rumours turn out to be true maybe we will see the Sisters being released after or during the summer campaign.
/completespeculation
Perhaps the weekly release of kits will see more diverse releases for different armies, replacing these metal HQ models and such.
/slightlymorebelievablespeculation
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Bull0 wrote: For some reason I'm just now realising that marbo is an anagram of rambo.
Priests, sanctioned psykers, etc aren't the most difficult thing in the world to convert. Commissars are too core to the IG aesthetic and the fluff to go - practically all the IG stories I've read centre around some Commissar or other, all the way back - so I'd expect a plastic clampack.
Yep, "We'll be back," and all that. GW is derivative to the point of being humorous. It stops being humorous when they sue people claiming to own skulls, halberds, and grenade launchers though....
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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"
AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."
AlexHolker: "Allow me to put it this way: Paramount is Skynet, reboots are termination attempts, and your childhood is John Connor."
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