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 TheSecretSquig wrote:
Initially, the weapon sprue is expensive, and when compared to the rest of a titan, it sure is. But look at it anotherway. A Comparable Forgeworld single 40k Dreadnought Weapon is £10. This Sprue contains x3 Arm Weapons, and x2 Carapace weapons. Buying these as individual Resin weapons fom FW would probably set you back in the region of £46. £10 for each of the arms, £8 for each of the carapace.

I'm not defending GW's pricing (really I'm not), but compared to how much it could have been..................

True. AT was going to all be FW resin until they realized the demand would support plastics.

 Imateria wrote:

 TheSecretSquig wrote:
Initially, the weapon sprue is expensive, and when compared to the rest of a titan, it sure is. But look at it anotherway. A Comparable Forgeworld single 40k Dreadnought Weapon is £10. This Sprue contains x3 Arm Weapons, and x2 Carapace weapons. Buying these as individual Resin weapons fom FW would probably set you back in the region of £46. £10 for each of the arms, £8 for each of the carapace.

I'm not defending GW's pricing (really I'm not), but compared to how much it could have been..................

Why compare it to something we knew it wuld never be, resin?

Because AT was originally planned as a FW resin model range. Not just the weapons but the whole line.

Just out of curiosity, has there been before a Forgeworld-produced game?

Necromunda, Blood Bowl, Horus Heresy and Aeronautica Imperialis all spring to mind. And Middle Earth, too, now.

SamusDrake wrote:Just out of curiosity, has there been before a Forgeworld-produced game?

Aeronautica Imperialis, the Horus Heresy, and Zone Mortalis are really the only Forge World-produced games of note prior to their taking over the Specialist games titles.

 TheSecretSquig wrote:
Initially, the weapon sprue is expensive, and when compared to the rest of a titan, it sure is. But look at it anotherway. A Comparable Forgeworld single 40k Dreadnought Weapon is £10. This Sprue contains x3 Arm Weapons, and x2 Carapace weapons. Buying these as individual Resin weapons fom FW would probably set you back in the region of £46. £10 for each of the arms, £8 for each of the carapace.

I'm not defending GW's pricing (really I'm not), but compared to how much it could have been..................

And knights in 40k got extra sprues for a tenner. Having them separate thus gives like 300% price hike. At least there should have been combo box for titans as well with more reasonable price.

Ah well. Gw lost lots of sales. Even 5 pounds less and would have gone for 14 sprues rather than 2.

If you are at the point where you truly considered getting fourteen(!) weapon sprues, I think GW may already have all of your money anyway Really how many Warlords do you have?

People should wait for the completed titan kit with the extra weapon sprue, after GW made a hefty profit from the 2 Reaver/WL variants, So it should be 1-2 years from now.

 Breotan wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:Just out of curiosity, has there been before a Forgeworld-produced game?

Aeronautica Imperialis, the Horus Heresy, and Zone Mortalis are really the only Forge World-produced games of note prior to their taking over the Specialist games titles.

BaC was designed by the FW team and produced by GW. It's a weirdo one mind you and of course debatable about how actually notable the game was considering how many people used it as a HH army box and tossed the rest.

Anyhoos let's not get too off topic.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
If you are at the point where you truly considered getting fourteen(!) weapon sprues, I think GW may already have all of your money anyway Really how many Warlords do you have?

Ah unclear. It wasn't just 14 warlord sprues. It would have been 6 warlords(3 for mortis, 3 for victorum) and 6 reaver sprues(ditto) which got buffed to 8 with corsair maniple.

This got scaled down to just 2 warlord sprues.

 TheSecretSquig wrote:
Initially, the weapon sprue is expensive, and when compared to the rest of a titan, it sure is. But look at it anotherway. A Comparable Forgeworld single 40k Dreadnought Weapon is £10. This Sprue contains x3 Arm Weapons, and x2 Carapace weapons. Buying these as individual Resin weapons fom FW would probably set you back in the region of £46. £10 for each of the arms, £8 for each of the carapace.

I'm not defending GW's pricing (really I'm not), but compared to how much it could have been..................

Good point, it could have been worse..

Apparently 3rd-party retailers can get direct-only stuff with a smaller discount (at least in the UK). I got the Warlord weapon sprue and a transfer sheet for £34, along with Titandeath book and new Reaver at about 20% off.

 xttz wrote:
Apparently 3rd-party retailers can get direct-only stuff with a smaller discount (at least in the UK). I got the Warlord weapon sprue and a transfer sheet for £34, along with Titandeath book and new Reaver at about 20% off.

Unfortunately that requires you have a physical third party retailer to visit who's willing to do custom orders, and that's a lot less common here than it is in say America.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Imateria wrote:

 TheSecretSquig wrote:
Initially, the weapon sprue is expensive, and when compared to the rest of a titan, it sure is. But look at it anotherway. A Comparable Forgeworld single 40k Dreadnought Weapon is £10. This Sprue contains x3 Arm Weapons, and x2 Carapace weapons. Buying these as individual Resin weapons fom FW would probably set you back in the region of £46. £10 for each of the arms, £8 for each of the carapace.

I'm not defending GW's pricing (really I'm not), but compared to how much it could have been..................

Why compare it to something we knew it wuld never be, resin?

Because AT was originally planned as a FW resin model range. Not just the weapons but the whole line.

Yes, but that plan changed 2 years ago, long before the game came out. The comparison isn't worth anything at this point.

Well. Plenty weapons still coming in resin.

At this point I'm much more interested in what's coming in rules.

Titandeath doesn't appear to have any new Titans, and yet we know they've got at least the Rapier and one heavier class waiting in the wings (Warrior?).

So there must be another expansion later this year.

Or not. Nemesis isn't in for AT model all that fast it seems(officially word is "maybe") and that's likely the first new titan coming up for AT. After all it's out in 40k already.

Hopefully expansions are coming but when and what it contains is another thing. Q4 would be one where I would expect earliest and even that assumes it has been already started few months ago minimum

tneva82 wrote:
Or not. Nemesis isn't in for AT model all that fast it seems(officially word is "maybe") and that's likely the first new titan coming up for AT. After all it's out in 40k already.

Hopefully expansions are coming but when and what it contains is another thing. Q4 would be one where I would expect earliest and even that assumes it has been already started few months ago minimum

I hope for a plastic warbringer, since that would give them the digital components for the mori quake cannon, which would be nice for a third warlord weapons sprue. And it shares the arm weapons with the reaver, so to see components are already digital.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Or not. Nemesis isn't in for AT model all that fast it seems(officially word is "maybe") and that's likely the first new titan coming up for AT. After all it's out in 40k already.

Hopefully expansions are coming but when and what it contains is another thing. Q4 would be one where I would expect earliest and even that assumes it has been already started few months ago minimum

I hope for a plastic warbringer, since that would give them the digital components for the mori quake cannon, which would be nice for a third warlord weapons sprue. And it shares the arm weapons with the reaver, so to see components are already digital.

Looks like there isn't going to be third warlord sprue. And likely the resin weapons for warlord will come out before warbringer comes out. I would expect resin weapons for warlords to start appear within 3-6 months. Some are apparantely already ready. Guess they want to release several at once. I'm hoping for paired gatling blasters and macro gatling blasters as "gatling weapons" pack! Those 2 are the ones I want most.

It's payday! Woooo!

Titandeath and Warlord Sprue ordered.

Time to dig out the magnets, ready for Monday.

I'm expecting mine late next week :(

Decided to order through GW on this occasion. Needed two 40k Manticores anyway, and I can't get the sprue elsewhere locally.

Figured the postage saving on just ordering the book is probably the same as a discount. Roughly. Certainly near enough as to make no different to me.

What I may be attempting this weekend is removing then magnetising the Volcano Cannon on the first Warlord I built. Not sure it's completely necessary, as it's a decent loadout. But, options are always welcome!

I ordered from gw but them sending on saturday and me in finland...well i ordered stuff on 10th, got sent on 11th and at least yesterday hadn't come.

Actually late next week is rathes optimistic...

 schoon wrote:
At this point I'm much more interested in what's coming in rules.

Titandeath doesn't appear to have any new Titans, and yet we know they've got at least the Rapier and one heavier class waiting in the wings (Warrior?).

So there must be another expansion later this year.

I'm not sure you'd need an expansion for a new class? The kit, the terminal and (if necessary) weapon cards would all provide the necessary play and rules components. The only thing that might be a bit sticky would be if they wanted to retcon some maniples to allow them as options, and that could be tackled with an FAQ, at least in the short term.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm not sure you'd need an expansion for a new class? The kit, the terminal and (if necessary) weapon cards would all provide the necessary play and rules components. The only thing that might be a bit sticky would be if they wanted to retcon some maniples to allow them as options, and that could be tackled with an FAQ, at least in the short term.

Agreed.

 Azreal13 wrote:


I'm not sure you'd need an expansion for a new class? The kit, the terminal and (if necessary) weapon cards would all provide the necessary play and rules components. The only thing that might be a bit sticky would be if they wanted to retcon some maniples to allow them as options, and that could be tackled with an FAQ, at least in the short term.

Not even a FAQ needed really. Just a sheet or two of maniple rules in the box with the terminals. Job done. Don't think they'll rework the existing maniples to include, for example, a nemesis Warbringer.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:


I'm not sure you'd need an expansion for a new class? The kit, the terminal and (if necessary) weapon cards would all provide the necessary play and rules components. The only thing that might be a bit sticky would be if they wanted to retcon some maniples to allow them as options, and that could be tackled with an FAQ, at least in the short term.

Not even a FAQ needed really. Just a sheet or two of maniple rules in the box with the terminals. Job done. Don't think they'll rework the existing maniples to include, for example, a nemesis Warbringer.

Wouldn't even require a rework.
Just a simple bit of text stating that you may swap 1 warlord in a maniple for a nemesis warbringer titan.
Would keep it to 1 per maniple and add some balance while allowing previous text to stay working just fine.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm not sure you'd need an expansion for a new class? The kit, the terminal and (if necessary) weapon cards would all provide the necessary play and rules components. The only thing that might be a bit sticky would be if they wanted to retcon some maniples to allow them as options, and that could be tackled with an FAQ, at least in the short term.

I agree that you don't need an expansion to do this, but if they've really planned the product line for two years out, then it seems a wasted opportunity not to do so.

After all, why sell just a shiny new Titan class or two when you could sell them alongside a new book...

Likely warbringes will come with maniples of it's own. Need some materia' for supplements after all. What else they do? Redo campain rules? New random tables? Along with non warbringer maniples...plus how many maniples one can do with just 3 titans?

I think "counts as x class" for maniples might be better, otherwise by time we get the atleast 3-4 rumoured titans we are going to need silly amounts of maniples for them all to get representation. With I assume the rarity of stuff like psi-titans it may just be a maniple can include 1 "rare" titan. We may get a unique maniple for each type though, like an artillary maniple for the warbringer (maybe 2 warbringers 1 warlord, 2 hounds, hounds scout distances and you scatter less) but I dont expect to see as many as we do for the basic ones.