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5 manly things that are going away forever
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-manly-things-that-are-going-away-forever_p2/
This seems just stupid. Car people are not going anywhere because of electric cars, they will just learn howto build elecctric cars instead.
And the idea that we no longer treat war heros right any more. Oh my god this is so stupid

Yeah, I'm with you on this Sauce. For a Cracked article it was pretty lame.

Please. Have you read the one where they argued Sauron was actually the good guy all along? Or the one about how legalizing weed is the worst thing ever?

This one's pretty bonkers though. I kind of get that the article is a mock of 'machoism' but it kind of lacks tact.

Tact is for non-manly people.

 LordofHats wrote:
Or the one about how legalizing weed is the worst thing ever?

But dude! I liked weed before it was cool! It's no fun now that other people are smoking it!

Yeah, that was the worst I've seen.

 SilverMK2 wrote:
Tact is for non-manly people.

I'm gonna be honest and say that when I first read #1 I was kind of infuriated at the way they framed the issue. Granted its apparent that the writer isn't saying that these changes are bad, but the way he says things really gets my eye brows raised.

Reading backl over page 1 though, #3 has a really good point. If the ex-NFL players win that law suit, what if someone takes it to college and highschool sports? That could be disasterous for educational sports programs.

Anyone else notice we're debating the relativity of Cracked articles? By and large the guys who write for it or the articles posted by the site are purely troll-like in nature.

troll-like in nature

Sounds right up OT's alley

But yeah. Cracked is about 50% random jacking off, 25% crazy, and 25% insightful commentary. A lot like Wikipedia

Yeah, but many are actually funny, or sometimes insightful. Like their ones on animals that prove god hates us.
This is just, bad, it lacks being funny, it lacks any sort of relvent social commentary it just lacks in everything

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

This seems just stupid. Car people are not going anywhere because of electric cars, they will just learn howto build elecctric cars instead.

Depends. Some of the Hybrids and electrics have parts that are still under proprietary technology and patents. You literally can't get them open without destroying them or using the right tool(which only authorized technicians have access to). When the transmission died for my father's Honda Insight, it was cheaper to buy a used car than have it worked on because Honda would need to fly an authorized mechanic to fly down to open and work on the transmission area. And no, you couldn't get it looked at elsewhere because of the lock to get to the transmission.

I know a couple car guys who won't buy hybrids and electrics specifically because they can't tinker with them.

Yeah but that's going to change in the next decade. Parts will go mainstream, companies will realize that the Apple way is not a good idea, etc...

 LordofHats wrote:

troll-like in nature

Sounds right up OT's alley

But yeah. Cracked is about 50% random jacking off, 25% crazy, and 25% insightful commentary. A lot like Wikipedia

Couldn't have said it better myself, /thread.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah but that's going to change in the next decade. Parts will go mainstream, companies will realize that the Apple way is not a good idea, etc...

Thats what im thinking The first model T probably wasnt able to be worked by everyone.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Thats what im thinking The first model T probably wasnt able to be worked by everyone.

I wonder if that was due to a lack of experience working on cars, lack of tools, or deliberately locking systems down.

 daedalus wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Thats what im thinking The first model T probably wasnt able to be worked by everyone.

I wonder if that was due to a lack of experience working on cars, lack of tools, or deliberately locking systems down.

Having seen a Model T's engine and transmission inside one, I can tell you it wasn't because they didn't want you to know how.

 LordofHats wrote:

troll-like in nature

Sounds right up OT's alley

But yeah. Cracked is about 50% random jacking off, 25% crazy, and 25% insightful commentary. A lot like Wikipedia

I disagree about the Wikipedia part.

Wikipedia part

Visit AN/I some time

Since I don't know anything about it I'll refrain from judgement.

Most people will only see the surface of Wikipedia, which is for the most part the best part of the site. Under the hood though is one of the most wretched hives of ego, bigotry, trolling, and grim humanity you will ever encounter. AN Incidents, anything having to do with Conflict of Interest, or the typical ARBCOM case will tell you everything you need to know (Actually, check out the Chelsea Manning Wars). Its eerily entertaining, and disturbing all at once.

Cracked can be really funny at times.

And it can be really dumb at other times.

 kronk wrote:
Cracked can be really funny at times.

And it can be really dumb at other times.

I think you just summed up the entire internet.

I thought the article was alright. Lacked big jokes, but these days Cracked seems increasingly inclined to post articles that are observational rather than just trivia and dick jokes.

As to the actual substance of the article... what he's arguing didn't seem too unreasonable to me. Masculine car culture isn't what it used to be. It might be an exaggeration to say its going away forever, but it's perfectly reasonable to observe that it isn't anywhere near as strong as it used to be.

I think he's right about football. I've heard the analogy to what happened to boxing before, and more importantly so has the NFL - they're aware that they need to make their sport safe before people start drifting away. Maybe the sport will find a way to maintain it's place as a mega-sport, but it's hard to see how they'll do that while keeping the same manly appeal. The same thing is happening to AFL here - the sport is bigger than ever but along the way it lost a lot of the manly brutality of the old game - which I think is a good thing, but there's no point denying the game hasn't changed.

And he's bang on the money when it comes to bullying - how that issue was viewed 20 years ago is nothing like how its dealt with now - the bully was always seen as the villain but the victim was seen as the person who had to solve the issue - simply dobbing on the bully was steadfastly refused as an issue. Coming of age by standing up to your bully was an important story, and now we're so much more aware of the real consequences of real life bullying that story feels so much more shallow.

On war heroes and red meat I think he's wide of the mark. On war heroes we don't know their names because the military made a conscious choice to brand itself differently - technology first and foremost, guts and suffering (and therefore incredible heroism) somewhere behind that. That means we might not know the names of specific war heroes the way we once might have, but it doesn't mean we don't still associate manliness directly with military service - if the military wanted to sell itself based on specific soldiers it would find an interested public.

On red meat I think he's wrong simply because people just do not see food in terms of resource efficiency, wasting of food makes an immediate, emotional (if often non-sensical) impact in a way that water consumption numbers don't. And if anything, I'd say that our increasing understanding of the health consequences of red meat has actually grown a macho culture around eating red meat.

But overall I think it was a decent article, and an interesting way to look at male culture.

I wasn't sure if it was meant to be satire or not.