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I em still waiting for the open beta to start

You just need a nice canadian that will mail it in an appropriate fashion to go through customs. Are we talkin the console or pc version here?

pc version still notake a bout a console version

Actually the thing that breaks games is never a new game.

It is always the sequel.

So I look forward to WOW2. Fragment the community, drive users away, kill the original game...yes, fulfill your destiny!

quietus86 wrote:I em still waiting for the open beta to start

Me too! Apparently tomorrow (Friday) 10amEST is when the open beta files are supposed to be available. they didn't say when the actual servers will be up afaik

zmc wrote:There is a beta, and I am in it.

Sadly that's all I can say because of NDA.

I've watched a buddy of mine play the beta over his shoulder, and as far as I can tell, it's kinda like WOW but with better resolution and less cartoony. And that Dark Elf black ark, its ffffing huge!

Bahkara wrote:

quietus86 wrote:I em still waiting for the open beta to start

Me too! Apparently tomorrow (Friday) 10amEST is when the open beta files are supposed to be available. they didn't say when the actual servers will be up afaik

Open beta if you pre-order. I want to demo this before I sign on.

A Warhammer MMO has been anticipated for some time. I'm sure it'll at least enjoy a little success.

Played it at GenCon and it's coming along nicely. Got to mess around with the Black Orc, Witch Elf, Marauder, and Witch Hunter.

Black Orc - WWWAAAAUGGHHHHH

Witch Elf - Seem to start with fewer abilities but seems to DoT pretty quickly, like you would expect.

Maruader - Mutating arms is fun, and they just look plain mean.

Witch Hunter - He can run and shoot at the same time, I liked him more then I thought I would and may play one as an Order alt to my Black Orc.

Bahkara wrote:

quietus86 wrote:I em still waiting for the open beta to start

Me too! Apparently tomorrow (Friday) 10amEST is when the open beta files are supposed to be available. they didn't say when the actual servers will be up afaik

still haven't fond it hope the europe version wil het a new's letter.
cose you cant even fill in de open beta code any wear on your profile it realy sucks.

Well to those wanting Skaven and Undead, they will be coming.. Mark Jacobs (might have been Paul Bennet.. not sure which of them) said Skaven could have been at launch, but they weren't as they are the easiest race to add.
Everyone has been assuming new races will come in the form of new racial pairings, but they've said at Mythic Skaven could quite happily come out of the ground and open up another front, doesn't explain if they'd be Destruction or a third faction but it sounds fun. They also mentioned some pre-quests, players messing about in Mines, accidently open up a new tunnel, and bang Skaven come into the game.
In the same interview, they mentioned Lizardmen would almost certainly make an appearance, but they could go to the desert lands for an item or some such, try to add water to the lands as they need it to survive, and what do they do, wake up the Tomb Kings of course. Hehehe, its a fun interview, but gives some very interesting impressions on where WaR could go.



On a side note - regarding Blizzard, I am starting to believe they are very worried about WaR, the new Zevra promotion is a sign of that concern, but I also think the 10million subscribers thing is not as impressive as it sounds when you realise 5.5million are from China, where they don't pay for the game, and pay on 36cents equivilent per hour to play. The US has 2.5 million subs, the rest in Europe and around the world. 60% of the folks who left WoW to try Age of Conan didn't come back, and WaR is going to be a much bigger draw than Conan, due to all the issues Conan has had. Even if only 500K in the US left WoW to play WaR, that is brickloads of money lost, and from what I'm seeing on the servers I play, alot of PvPers are jumping ship when WaR launches here in Europe, so who knows what numbers will switch here.
I starting to think WoW's ivory tower isn't as stable as everyone thinks it is.

For those worrying about it being a 2 month fad or that WoW will crush Warhammer online, you have to consider two things.

First this is quite possibly the most anticipated MMO after WoW, it will draw a decent sized fanbase.

Two, It's going to attract a different kind of player than WoW. It will never be as big as WoW is, but it isn't going to cater to many of WoW's demographics either. Warhammer Online is going to be very PvP centric, a much more aggressive game that is much more dependent on teamwork and team based PvP (the way raids are run currently in WoW is kinda how you run PvP in WHO, you need a tank, to get into the enemy and hold them, nukers, debuffers, etc to be successful) than the PvP in WoW (which is more "team up if you want, but you don't really have to work together") along with a much darker universe where the faction distinctions are actually relevant (as opposed to the Horde/Alliance dichotomy where they really no longer have any real reason to be opposed other than they just don't trust each other). The game also isn't designed as a grind. PvP in WoW is generally just a grind for Gear for most people, as is high end PvE. WHO is basically a giant battlefield, where conquest is the goal, not gear (as in WoW currently).

Those that enjoy gear and PvE raids and a PvP system where one vs one combat is often the norm (even in large battles) will likely stay with WoW, those that prefer a more aggressive style game and team PvP will move to WHO.

EDIT: also, I've never found WoW to be a truly stunning MMO (after playing it for almost 2 years), the PvE is repetitive, the PvP is just an e-peen instance grindfest, and its draw comes from the company name and its ease of play, anyone can play it anytime and still achieve anything in the game with minimal effort, as long as you sink in some time. WoW is certainly not the most polished MMO out there (it wasn't even to where Blizzard wanted it to be at release until after AQ came out and they spend 2 years redoing class talents, and then they did it all over again with BC) Lets face it, Blizzard could package a dog turd, label it "Blizzard Turdcraft" and still sell a million units and get it named game of the year.

WAR pros:

1. It's not WoW
2. People are sick of WoW
3. They've realized that people like to kill each other, made PvP a viable leveling strategy

WAR cons:

1. We've already got WoW
2. People are sick of WoW
3. It's not WAR40k. I don't know why they didn't start with 40k as the baseline. We've already got multitudes of games where you can pick up a spear and run around online. What we do not have is a gigantic awesomely cool space MMO. The closest they got was Star Wars Galaxies, which was a huge crap fest. The next best is Starcraft: Ghost.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Well to those wanting Skaven and Undead, they will be coming.. Mark Jacobs (might have been Paul Bennet.. not sure which of them) said Skaven could have been at launch, but they weren't as they are the easiest race to add.
Everyone has been assuming new races will come in the form of new racial pairings, but they've said at Mythic Skaven could quite happily come out of the ground and open up another front, doesn't explain if they'd be Destruction or a third faction but it sounds fun. They also mentioned some pre-quests, players messing about in Mines, accidently open up a new tunnel, and bang Skaven come into the game.

That doesn't mean, though, that Skaven will come in as a playable race, though.

Vaktathi wrote:For those worrying about it being a 2 month fad or that WoW will crush Warhammer online, you have to consider two things.

You make a good point about WAR catering to a different demographic. And while I don't necessarily think that WoW will crush WAR, neither do I think that WAR has a chance of crushing WoW. I think Stelek made an excellent point about the one thing that can crush a game is it's sequel. We've seen that too many times in the gaming world. As far as WoW not being a truly stunning MMO - no, you're right, it's not, but it's got an interface that is not only generally better than most other MMOs, but is designed in such a way that if you don't like the interface, you can find a one that you do like. And that's not something I've found to be as common with other games which has left me really cold with them.

sourclams wrote:3. It's not WAR40k. I don't know why they didn't start with 40k as the baseline. We've already got multitudes of games where you can pick up a spear and run around online. What we do not have is a gigantic awesomely cool space MMO. The closest they got was Star Wars Galaxies, which was a huge crap fest. The next best is Starcraft: Ghost.

Quoted for truth, brother.

sourclams wrote:3. It's not WAR40k. I don't know why they didn't start with 40k as the baseline. We've already got multitudes of games where you can pick up a spear and run around online. What we do not have is a gigantic awesomely cool space MMO. The closest they got was Star Wars Galaxies, which was a huge crap fest. The next best is Starcraft: Ghost.

Quoted for truth, brother.

Death By Monkeys wrote:
That doesn't mean, though, that Skaven will come in as a playable race, though.

If you read the interview, (If I remember I'll link it when I get back from work can't go to Warhammer Alliance here) they are talking about what new playable races will be appearing in the future.

Slave wrote:Go back and reread what you quoted, then reread what you said.

Of course they have plenty of PREORDERS left. They are out of COLLECTORS EDITIONS.

Pre orders do no have the comic nor the orc, just us early adopters get those.

Sitting here wtih my Collectors Edition now. The comic is surprisingly hefty, and the Orc is niiiiiice.

HMV Bond Street in London had *at least* fifty copies of the CE out on the shelves after all of their pre-orders this morning if you're still looking for one.

Phazer

Does anyone work in a retail location? I'm wondering how well the regular boxes are selling.

I don't know about the regular boxes, but my wife had a bit of an epiphany last night.

We pre-ordered the game, and got the little codes for open beta and head start, etc. We ponied up 5$ per box, with the idea that we pay 45$ or whatever per box for the remaineder.

Then the head start starts, and we download the patch from open beta to live game. Yesterday we picked up our boxes, put them on the counter when we got home, and started playing for the night, without even cracking the shrink wrap.

Why did we pay the 45$?

Can you return the box for a refund of the $45? It's still shrink wrapped.

Wehrkind wrote:I don't know about the regular boxes, but my wife had a bit of an epiphany last night.

We pre-ordered the game, and got the little codes for open beta and head start, etc. We ponied up 5$ per box, with the idea that we pay 45$ or whatever per box for the remaineder.

Then the head start starts, and we download the patch from open beta to live game. Yesterday we picked up our boxes, put them on the counter when we got home, and started playing for the night, without even cracking the shrink wrap.

Why did we pay the 45$?

You wern't able to play the "real" game until today, what you were playing was the head start you got into because you pre-ordered. You'll need to give the code in the $45 box to the account management site to be able to play when the servers go live, today.

I think you will be required to put the codes in today. Maybe they thought yesterday would be a 'free day' for preorders, in case there were issues...which there didn't seem to be when I played.

What I want to know is if I will be able to try it before I buy it? So far I see nothing but a "under construction" site for a trial run...no info if they will allow a 10-14 day grace period to see if I really want it. I didn't preorder it because I didn't want to spend the money on a game I haven't tried yet and may not like. So if anyone has info on this I would appreciate it.

I'm playing on the Order side of the Vortex Server. Send me a PM if you want into my guild or just to meet up in game.

ProtoClone wrote:What I want to know is if I will be able to try it before I buy it? So far I see nothing but a "under construction" site for a trial run...no info if they will allow a 10-14 day grace period to see if I really want it. I didn't preorder it because I didn't want to spend the money on a game I haven't tried yet and may not like. So if anyone has info on this I would appreciate it.

Eventually they will, like with DAoC, but it will be a way off. Right now they are catering to pre-orders and purchasers. When that thins out a bit or time passes enough (or it flops) the free trials will kick in. The game doesn't come with any "buddy codes" either, at least the CE didn't.

Welcome to World of Warhammer-Craft.......Online.....!

Meh. I'm not really interested in yet ANOTHER work simulator

VermGho5t wrote:Welcome to World of Warhammer-Craft.......Online.....!

Meh. I'm not really interested in yet ANOTHER work simulator

The similarities of the games are superficial; it is like saying Diakatana and Half-Life 2 are the same because they are both FPS.

Ahtman wrote:

ProtoClone wrote:What I want to know is if I will be able to try it before I buy it? So far I see nothing but a "under construction" site for a trial run...no info if they will allow a 10-14 day grace period to see if I really want it. I didn't preorder it because I didn't want to spend the money on a game I haven't tried yet and may not like. So if anyone has info on this I would appreciate it.

Eventually they will, like with DAoC, but it will be a way off. Right now they are catering to pre-orders and purchasers. When that thins out a bit or time passes enough (or it flops) the free trials will kick in. The game doesn't come with any "buddy codes" either, at least the CE didn't.

I paid a whole $1 to get the pre-release. It lets you into the beta right now. Good thing because I won't be getting this. Best investment I've made in some time.

I love that cartoon!

i am going to be the hottest dark elf chick.....EVER!!!!!!!