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Considering Wrath of the Lich King will be released (according to Blizzard CEO) between October and December, Warhammer Online will get the same two months of life that Age of Conan got
Aduro wrote:Expect to see Blizzard move up the release date for Lich King now. I'd wager the week before WAR comes out.
Nah, I can't see Blizzard being threatened by this, not with the millions of WoW players eagerly waiting for WotLK. I agree with Therion. WAR will shine for a couple months, a bunch of die-hard Warhammer fans will take it up and drop their WoW accounts and they will be the bulk of the players. I can't see it eating too much into WoW's market.
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Blizzard won't rush their latest expansion just to kill off the competition. They are known for the high amount of polish on their boring products and they know damn well that WAR won't hurt them.
The NDA will be lifted this coming week, then I can tell anyone anything they want to know, been in beta since the get-go. I'd doubt anyone who claimed it was a WoW clone though.
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I gave up on WoW months ago. WAR seems like it is not as grindy as WoW is (at least from what the devs say for their part), considering you can level up with PvPing if you choose. I also hated getting into a group of 10 to 20 players just to get the next step in my gear for my character.
Also, if I'm going to play a Warhammer-like game, why not play the most accurate one? It looks great, and I have read more about WFB background than Warcraft background, and vastly prefer Warhammer's fantasy world.
Sure, the game does have WoW-like elements, but WoW was just an amalgamation of what made MMOs good and fun and well-designed in the first place. It's not like they were originators, they just paid more attention and have a rabid fanbase that thinks nothing they do is wrong (until their character gets nerfed in the next patch, that is).
WoW may be the most popular, but I don't think it will be better or more fun than what I've read about WAR.
Time will tell I guess.
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I'm very on the fence about WAR, to be honest, but I'd definitely be trying it out if Skaven were a playable race. Instead, I see there's a "skaven skin" cloak or something that players can get. ouch.
I'll probably still try it out, though, if they offer a free-trial of some kind. All I know is, for me, I quit WoW over a year ago, and haven't missed it a bit since. I agree with most folks, that WAR will likely have it's niche of die-hard fans who are GW/WHFB fans.
I can say, though, that without MMO's, I'd sure have a lot more painting done.
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Time after time we lose sight of the way, our causes can't see their effects."
I'm in agreement with GrimTeef - I mean, if this had come out before WoW, I would never have played WoW. And as a longtime Warhammer player, I imagine that I'll get a lot more enjoyment out of this than WoW, just due to the setting. But in the grand scheme of MMORPGs, I don't see it denting WoW's overall market share.
Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack
Aye, been playing WoW for a year and a half and its all been training for this one. (Training in the sense I can now type sentances in a matter of seconds before I need to heal, Shoot, splat a mob threatening me or a party.) Also generally even though I expect there to be many new things to learn I can take some of the experiences of WoW with me, and hope to be a better player for it.
The main things for me are obviously its Warhammer, 6 man groups for all Dungeons (My casual nature means I can actually see the end game Dungeons.. yay and not leave WoW with two lvl 70's never seeing Black Temple, The Eye etc as I didn't have the time for raiding.) and the adventuring inspired by the Tome of Knowledge.
I can't wait tbh.
Oh and I get to play a Witch Elf.
@Alpharius - its been listed $14.99 per month, down to I think $12.99 per month if you pay for 6months in one go.
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Daggermaw wrote:they took out over a third of the game just to make launch
Math isn't your strong point is it? The things delayed from launch don't come anywhere near a third of the game. If you don't want to play that's fine, but at least don't make things up.
No one with sense really expects this to topple WoW, it's just to big. OTOH I've talked to many many WoW players who are making the move when it comes out. I expect, if they have in place what needs to be in place, that WAR will pull into second. Still you never know with these things.
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Alpharius wrote:Has the ship sailed on the Collector's Editions?
Depending upon where you pre-ordered them, you got different exclusive in game stuff.
I vaguely remember thinking that the Best Buy one was the one I'd want, but now I cannot locate it.
Anyone have any idea?
From my talks with the Mythic staff at Games Days, the Collector's Edition is sold out globally. You'll have to find a copy on ebay or hope someone fails to pick their up at a local retailer.
Im shocked at the amount of blizzard fanbois that frequent this site. War is far and away the superior pvp option, because it does not have: grindtacular requirements, imbalanced classes that go unchecked for over a year, or arenas with optimal class/race/spec requirements to not suck at.
But thats alright, I wouldnt want the kind of players that still think wow is the king of all that is good and just moving to war anyway
warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy!
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What's the potential for griefing in this game? That alone will determine if this game won't be seen as yet another WoW clone. PvP quests and battleground-like zones sound good, but unless there's a way to really grief with a good bunch of guys it won't be as fun.
In other words, how hard is it to siege the opposing city in the end game (like the devs said was possible)? That seems to be the extent of the end game unless they make boring dungeon raids a big thing. If it's awesome, pubbie tears will flow.
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Every MMO gets compared to WoW now. I don't think it has anything to do with fanboi-ism, it's just a natural result of WoW's success.
Anyway, it's not like WoW has anything to fear from its competitors. It's all the other games that have to step up to be as successful as it.
No, I don't play WoW. I hate MMO's, and the very idea of paying monthly for a game that I've already paid $100 in a store for just gaks me to no end, especially when I know I won't be playing it in a few months. The only RPGs to ever hold my attention were the Fallout series, the Diablo series and the KOTOR series. And now KOTOR is going to be an MMO... won't be playing that either.
H.B.M.C. wrote:Every MMO gets compared to WoW now. I don't think it has anything to do with fanboi-ism, it's just a natural result of WoW's success.
Anyway, it's not like WoW has anything to fear from its competitors. It's all the other games that have to step up to be as successful as it.
No, I don't play WoW. I hate MMO's, and the very idea of paying monthly for a game that I've already paid $100 in a store for just gaks me to no end, especially when I know I won't be playing it in a few months. The only RPGs to ever hold my attention were the Fallout series, the Diablo series and the KOTOR series. And now KOTOR is going to be an MMO... won't be playing that either.
BYE
Fallout 3 is a mid-October release, and it looks AMAZAZING...
Pre-ordered my colelctor's edition today... it comes with a metal lunchbox, 80s style, and a Fallout Boy bobblehead.
I am all over that lunch box.
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Instead, I see there's a "skaven skin" cloak or something that players can get. ouch. 
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