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reds8n wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:@MDG: I beg to differ. A thick cut of Prime Rib is easily 20 ounces.

Good grief ! And you people eat that ! Our women birth children that weigh less.

.... You know that "more=better" crack from earlier....

@ Mr. MDG-- you're scottish, you've porbably already eaten several babies ye big fibber !

Baby! The Other Other white meat! get inma belly!

MDG seems to be confusing Prime Rib (a think roasted steak from the standing rib roast) with a rack of ribs. Foolish boy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_rib



Never try to mess with an American when it comes to portions.

Mannahnin wrote:MDG seems to be confusing Prime Rib (a think roasted steak from the standing rib roast) with a rack of ribs. Foolish boy.

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Lawry's serves a fantastic prime rib, and I highly recommend the chain - they have locations in the US & Asia. I've been a customer of their's for many, many, years. The only thing missing from the picture is Yorkshire pudding, also, their spinach is really good.

Mannahnin wrote:Never try to mess with an American when it comes to portions.

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Looks good - I'd eat that.

Ribs look tasty, too.

This makes a lot of people really angry, but kangaroo ain't too bad...

My partner's Palestinian family has introduced me a another world of cuisine in the last five years, which I love if only for the new sensation. Best lamb ever...

Although there was a pistachio-based desert.. thing (Not baklava, I can't remember any Arabic names) that stuck in my throat rather literally. I managed to get a splinter of pistachio in my throat, which I removed a few days later having finally spotted it in a mirror. Uh, don't let that freak occurence turn you off though. Really, brilliantly nice food.

generally indian curry has a greenish yellow tint .
asian singaporean curry has yellow tint
japanese curry are smooth and creamy and brown
the one you mentioned sounds like red curry ( Thai )
hope that helped.

Back to the first page problem of bland food. Theres a reason for it (IMHO)and that reasons name is Sysco. They are the dominant national restaurant food supplier in the country. Similar story to wal-mart. Used to be very customer oriented. Then one part of the ownership drops out(dies off, bought out,ect..) and they start cheaping out on the product. They are why most of the nationwide restaurant chains taste the very bland same ol' same ol'.

Significant other has 20 years experience with food management around the country.

You want good food in the US these days you gotta ask the locals about local places or small chains. Or find franchises that use local suppliers. Of course there are exceptions to every rule and there are some that use different suppliers for this very reason.

BTW Frazz, have you tried Harris County Smokehouse north of Houston, They're the best. Brown sugar,molasses, hot spice rub on their meats(don't anybody go there or I'll send Chuck Norris after you).

@FF, I'd completely believe that - it's why the local places really do taste better, with fresher food.

focusedfire wrote:Back to the first page problem of bland food. Theres a reason for it (IMHO)and that reasons name is Sysco. They are the dominant national restaurant food supplier in the country. Similar story to wal-mart. Used to be very customer oriented. Then one part of the ownership drops out(dies off, bought out,ect..) and they start cheaping out on the product. They are why most of the nationwide restaurant chains taste the very bland same ol' same ol'.

Significant other has 20 years experience with food management around the country.

You want good food in the US these days you gotta ask the locals about local places or small chains. Or find franchises that use local suppliers. Of course there are exceptions to every rule and there are some that use different suppliers for this very reason.

BTW Frazz, have you tried Harris County Smokehouse north of Houston, They're the best. Brown sugar,molasses, hot spice rub on their meats(don't anybody go there or I'll send Chuck Norris after you).

In Houston I like Ottos, Goode Co., and a hole in the wall by the house. In Austin I like Rudys, County Line, and Smoky J's.

Wow this thread didn't take long to start annoying some americans did it.

After reading back the comments i'm not convinced, I mean the best example of a good american meal was ribs and pizza? I kinda know now why you call that cheap processed cheese that comes in slices " American cheese" cause its typical of the stuff you eat in your diet. But you obviously assume that because I didnt like your food I only went to fast food joints and franchises. And btw, british food is not just fish and chips and haggis. + as I said it was only my observation, I genuinely loved your country. My only problems were your food and your cars (honestly you guys take the piss when it comes to the green debate), other than that theres a lot of things id wish we'd have here.

Wow that was hostile. I don't think anyone took umbrage at your comments other than a discussion of whether roasts (?) were better than prime rib (is there a difference?). Lots of alternatives were cited, we just noted ribs and pizza discussions.

Having said that if you don't think pizza can be turned into high art then there's no help for you. The ghost of Al Capone is sending some boys over to help your lack of enthusiasm as we speak

And now to settle things down, Mark and Lard's ode to Curry, sung to the tune of Kula Shaker's Tattva.....

Like a flower in the scent of summer.
Mystic Oriental spice.
Shall we take a trip to our spiritual Mecca?
No, bollocks to it, let's have Curry and Rice...

Chicken Tikka Poppadum Ta La.
TA LA!
Plate of Chips, Poppadum Ta La
TA LA!

Meditating with the Maharishi.
Lead a life thats pure and sparse.
Lamb Jalfrezi and 15 pints of Lager
Sends a message to your arse....

Frazzled wrote:Wow that was hostile.

it was?

whatwhat wrote:Wow this thread didn't take long to start annoying some americans did it.

After reading back the comments i'm not convinced, I mean the best example of a good american meal was ribs and pizza? I kinda know now why you call that cheap processed cheese that comes in slices " American cheese" cause its typical of the stuff you eat in your diet. But you obviously assume that because I didnt like your food I only went to fast food joints and franchises. And btw, british food is not just fish and chips and haggis. + as I said it was only my observation, I genuinely loved your country. My only problems were your food and your cars (honestly you guys take the piss when it comes to the green debate), other than that theres a lot of things id wish we'd have here.

Not annoyed, trying to help. Now getting slightly annoyed by the attitude. I lived for several years in europe and learned fairly quickly that tourist don't learn squat about the cultures foods and habits. Can't stand american tourists that think they know from a couple of week visit. Can't stand any tourist with that attitude. Got a Londoner friend over here. We always do the holidays together because She Knows How to really do Lamb And I make Turkeys and hams that you'd slap a bobby for. Home cooking is still the best. It's becoming a dying art in the age of fast food. Food in europe definitely is not superior, but the dining experience is. In the US its too rushed,too cliquish, and too formulaic. Alway enjoyed being seated at a table where I didn't know anyone and had an hour to get to know them before the order arrived. But I digress.

Just don't blame the country for where your friend took you. If it was in florida the food stinks there because its Gods waiting room and the restaurants there don't season a bloody thing. The elderly have high blood pressure, diabetes, or whatever so they keep the food bland. Never, If you value your intestinal tract, eat at a pic a dilly in florida(had turkey and dressing that had about the same flavor as unsalted,unsweetened oatmeal.Blegh).

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I reckon that's the thing. You also can't judge the US as an entity, better to name the state you were in and say "food in Oregon is blah" than "food in the US is blah".
I really can't wait til I'm on my feet financially and can pop over for a visit. Sounds like an interesting place.

Ok, I didnt like the food in america, the posts didnt convince me. Now im being hostile and have a bad atittude.

meh

One of my favourite things about having people visit from the US is getting them their first good chicken tikka dish. Then some high quality Korean barbeque and top quality sushi, and perhaps if there is time some Nepalese or proper Chinese food (not like the highly americanised Chinese that is in most of the buffet places in the states). I enjoy food in the states and have had some bad, some good and some great, but on the whole since I tend to eat in the rural midwest, freshness is a factor compared to back here in London and it robs the food of a lot of quality, so I end up eating a lot more chain restaurant food than I would like to. Vegas is always surprisingly good and horrifically overpriced for top restaurants, but then it is in the middle of nowhere.

Whats chicken tikka Lego?

You can get good Korean barbeque in a variety of locations here (haven't had any myself). The advantages of USA/Canada are the foods the large immigrant populations bring add spice to life, and isn't that what life is about? (other than the required crush your enemies see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women thing)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Tikka

Very tasty is the short answer!

N.B. I',m afraid that article is somehow even more chockful of utter bollocks than Wiki normally manages....Vindaloo for example is not Goan. It is British. It was essentially a Chef's Revenge should some racist, bull necked arsed enter his restaurant and demand the spiciest thing on the menu, thus designed to blow his bollocks backwards!

Sorry about that old chum. Pic is fairly accurate though.

Man that sounds good actually.

Is very nice! The Masala version has a sauce with it. Extremely popular in the UK!

Why not treat yourself, the Missus and the Sprogs to a UK Holiday? I'll take you up Brick Lane to eat Curry until you implode.

Maybe in the future MDG.

Yarrr.

Exchange is quite favourable at the moment!

Yeah, JF- if you haven't tried much Indian, I recommend it. Just try to check reviews (or with friends) and get a decent place.

Indeed. NOrmally the quality between restaurants is normally much of a muchness, barring the exceptionally good and downright dire, but I have found it much more pronounced in Indian cooking.

Some, for example, will batch cook the meats, and then just bung them in the sauce. Properly cooked, the meat is marinated in specific spices and cooked *in* the sauce. Both approaches are edible, but the latter has a supreme quality!

whatwhat wrote:After reading back the comments i'm not convinced, I mean the best example of a good american meal was ribs and pizza?

No, those were examples of great food that is (more or less) FROM here. Our pizza is usually so divergent from the original that one can easily see it as an American creation. And our version(s) of BBQ is (are) also fairly different from other places’ variations on grilled meat. Cajun food was another example of "American cuisine".

There are lots of other good ethnic cuisines here, but most of them are fairly direct descendents from elsewhere. You can get plenty good Italian food, for example, and it’s a staple in many American diets, but if we get it at a restaurant we still identify it as Italian. Same with Mexican. There’s plenty of good food in this country. But there’s plenty of bad too (as you clearly experienced).

whatwhat wrote:I kinda know now why you call that cheap processed cheese that comes in slices " American cheese" cause its typical of the stuff you eat in your diet.

Here’s where you started getting offensive. Obviously the people participating in this thread care at least a little about what we put in our mouths. When you draw unfounded conclusions about our diets based on crap that some of us wouldn’t even feed our pets (like processed cheese slices), naturally we think you’re out of line.

whatwhat wrote:But you obviously assume that because I didnt like your food I only went to fast food joints and franchises.

Well, we’re honestly surprised that you couldn’t find something good, particularly with this “friend” helping. If the guy couldn’t find you anything decent to eat over a span of weeks, even in Florida, then either he has no taste or he’s not really a friend and was deliberately messing with you.

whatwhat wrote:And btw, british food is not just fish and chips and haggis.

I love nice fish & chips. I’m not much of a fan of puddings. Other than the fish & chips, when I was in England most of the tasty things I ate were foreign (like kebabs and Indian). I’d certainly be interested in hearing more examples of tasty British cuisine.

Mannahnin wrote:Yeah, JF- if you haven't tried much Indian, I recommend it. Just try to check reviews (or with friends) and get a decent place.

I had a client who was Indian at one point and we went to some restaraunts. I'm not a curry fan myself, but the rest was quite good. I'm only really a fan of really spicy chili, and a lot of the curries they had could melt my face.

British food tends to be very stodgy, aimed at filling a man up after a hard day in the fields or down the mine, reflecting our more humble origins.

Over the past few decades though, we have embraced foreign cuisine to a high degree. For example, Tikka Massala and Vindaloo both being peculiarly British dishes now.

Frazz, some Curry Houses will just have the hotter dishes being served. However, a nice creamy Korma is a good place to start. Hardly any heat, and a fair example of the taste you can expect. I don't mind a hot curry, but I don't see the point in one that would melt your Nan from 10 paces.

Whats the difference in breakfasts? Knocking out croisants and breakfast tacos/migas whats British breakfast? I'm betting the US has the most similarity with UK on the "traditional" breakfast front. I should also exclude cereal.

My favorite part about Indian restaurants is the variety. There’s such a large variation in heat levels, they use multiple different meats but also typically have a huge variety of vegetarian items, and the spices/flavors are pretty diverse too. Tandoori Chicken or Chicken Tikka are often nice introductory items form Americans which won’t melt your face but have nice flavor. If you like the really hot stuff, I suspect you’ll love Vindaloo as much as I do. Chicken + potatoes + spicy tomatos and onions= good eating. I usually have mine with some nice fragrant jasmine rice to allow me to soak up and spread out the heat.

Indian is indeed excellent for the Veggie Weirdos, as numerous religious sects from the region are entirely Vegan.

A British Breakfast? Traditional, Full English would be.....

Proper Bacon, Sausages (Pork not Beef) Eggs (Fried or Scrambled, I prefer Fried) Fried Bread, Fried Tomato, Blackpudding and Mushrooms. Perhaps Beans as well if I'm really hungry. Is also referred to as a Fry Up. I like Toast and Butter afterwards, and of course a fresh pot of Tea is a must, stronger the better (let it mash!)