Fattimus_maximus wrote:

It was mental illness that drove Li to kill McLean. He had a voice in his head that told him an evil walked the earth, and McLean was that evil. The voice told Li to dismember McLean's body so he couldn't rise again. I'm pretty sure the voice told him to eat some of McLean too lol. I guess you wouldn't expect to find your left index finger inside a crazy Chinese dude.

Voices? Evil? either he was crazy, or chaos has finally made its move.

Now back to the seriousness at hand. Blah blah blah I don't know zog about Canada but I'll just assume they're as bloodthirsty as we are.

Cheese Elemental wrote:I believe in shoot to incapacitate. There's no need to kill.

Cheese Elemental wrote:I believe in shoot to incapacitate. There's no need to kill.

BloodofOrks wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:
Giving everyone a gun/chainsaw isn't the cure to the insane cannibal murderer epidemic. Do you know why that is? Because it doesn't exist.

Says the guy who has never tasted human flesh.

Fattimus_maximus wrote:mmmm, probably shouldn't mention what I do for a living

Frazzled wrote:

Do have they have the gas chamber in Canada?

You’re kidding right?

Kilkrazy wrote:It used to be hanging in the UK. We got rid of the death penalty in the 1960s.

Illeix wrote:stabbed once maybe twice, you might live, but the more important quality of CC is deterance.
would he have even tried it if he thought he could get shot?
(in this case, probably, seeing he's insane and wanted to die... but most criminals are not and do not)

Kanluwen wrote:

Illeix wrote:stabbed once maybe twice, you might live, but the more important quality of CC is deterance.
would he have even tried it if he thought he could get shot?
(in this case, probably, seeing he's insane and wanted to die... but most criminals are not and do not)

How often do concealed carries stop rapes or murder?
How often are people actually murdered with *their own handgun*?

It's only a deterrence if everyone's packing heat. That's what made the Old West work

lambadomy wrote:Don't worry, it's not scary, since it's not actually true.

Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:36 PM

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Gun crimes in England have almost doubled since 1997, when a ban on firearms began.


According to the Sunday Times of London, crimes in which guns were used numbered 4,671 in 2005-06.


Also, government officials report that most gun crime is committed by children and teenagers under 18 years old.


David Davis, the shadow home secretary, told the Telegraph: "What this shows is that the majority of these crimes are committed by youngsters under 18.


"The government's policy has failed with the group most responsible for this increase in crime. It is long past time the Government stopped believing its own propaganda, and took measures to get a grip."







© 2007 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Myth #3: Gun Control Has Reduced The Crime Rates In Other Countries


1. Fact: The murder rates in many nations (such as England) were ALREADY LOW BEFORE enacting gun control. Thus, their restrictive laws cannot be credited with lowering their crime rates.1
2. Fact: Gun control has done nothing to keep crime rates from rising in many of the nations that have imposed severe firearms restrictions.
* Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."2
* Canada: After enacting stringent gun control laws in 1991 and 1995, Canada has not made its citizens any safer. "The contrast between the criminal violence rates in the United States and in Canada is dramatic," says Canadian criminologist Gary Mauser in 2003. "Over the past decade, the rate of violent crime in Canada has increased while in the United States the violent crime rate has plummeted." 3
* England: According to the BBC News, handgun crime in the United Kingdom rose by 40% in the two years after it passed its draconian gun ban in 1997.4
* Japan: One newspaper headline says it all: Police say "Crime rising in Japan, while arrests at record low."5
3. Fact: British citizens are now more likely to become a victim of crime than are people in the United States:
* In 1998, a study conducted jointly by statisticians from the U.S. Department of Justice and the University of Cambridge in England found that most crime is now worse in England than in the United States.
* "You are more likely to be mugged in England than in the United States," stated the Reuters news agency in summarizing the study. "The rate of robbery is now 1.4 times higher in England and Wales than in the United States, and the British burglary rate is nearly double America's."6 The murder rate in the United States is reportedly higher than in England, but according to the DOJ study, "the difference between the [murder rates in the] two countries has narrowed over the past 16 years."7
* The United Nations confirmed these results in 2000 when it reported that the crime rate in England is higher than the crime rates of 16 other industrialized nations, including the United States.8
4. Fact: British authorities routinely underreport crime statistics. Comparing statistics between different nations can be quite difficult since foreign officials frequently use different standards in compiling crime statistics.
* The British media has remained quite critical of authorities there for "fiddling" with crime data. Consider some of the headlines in their papers: "Crime figures a sham, say police,"910 and "Police figures under-record offences by 20 percent."11 "Police are accused of fiddling crime data,"
* British police have also criticized the system because of the "widespread manipulation" of crime data:
a. "Officers said that pressure to convince the public that police were winning the fight against crime had resulted in a long list of ruses to 'massage' statistics."12
b. Sgt. Mike Bennett says officers have become increasingly frustrated with the practice of manipulating statistics. "The crime figures are meaningless," he said. "Police everywhere know exactly what is going on."13
c. According to The Electronic Telegraph, "Officers said the recorded level of crime bore no resemblance to the actual amount of crime being committed."14
* Underreporting crime data: "One former Scotland Yard officer told The Telegraph of a series of tricks that rendered crime figures 'a complete sham.' A classic example, he said, was where a series of homes in a block flats were burgled and were regularly recorded as one crime. Another involved pickpocketing, which was not recorded as a crime unless the victim had actually seen the item being stolen."15
* Underreporting murder data: British crime reporting tactics keep murder rates artificially low. "Suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar. They are arrested for murder, but because of problems with identification (the main witness is dead), charges are eventually dropped. In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide, but in British statistics it counts as nothing at all. 'With such differences in reporting criteria, comparisons of U.S. homicide rates with British homicide rates is a sham,' [a 2000 report from the Inspectorate of Constabulary] concludes."16