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you ruined this for me
dammit
why why couldnt you just let me keep on hoping

There is a bike Character in the form of Sammael for the Dark Angels that is a box set.

Ratbarf wrote:There is a bike Character in the form of Sammael for the Dark Angels that is a box set.

Dark Angels are a major chapter with their own Codex, though.

Well, Space marines are a major army with their own codex and hes in it. To not have a bike model is just stupid. At least put out a captian on a bike plastic kit. Now that would be cool.

I don't see why he has to hold it two-handed. Moonfang isn't a relic blade, it's a power sword that is a White Scars relic. He could have been modelled with one hand holding the blade, the other with two different hands. One hand holding a bolt pistol and the other modelled to grip a handle bar, kinda like the SM Termie Librarian. Then have the upper and lower torso seperate with an additional pair of legs for sitting on a bike. Have additional pieces to go on a regular SM bike to customize that. Kinda like they did with Chronus. Then people would just have to buy a SM biker for the bike.

Ratbarf wrote:Well, Space marines are a major army with their own codex and hes in it. To not have a bike model is just stupid. At least put out a captian on a bike plastic kit. Now that would be cool.

Is he on a bike in those rules?

Still, I think the priority list is Space Marines, Space Marines with their own Books, Space Marines that are oddball variants, Imperial Guard, Game Variants, and Xenos in that order.

OMG how has no 1 thought of this. Just get a sergeant on bike. ok? then get kor'sarro khan. got that? good. no take whatever bits you want of kor'sarro khan and stick 'em on the sergeant. that wasn't too hard was it?

deadly chicken wrote:OMG how has no 1 thought of this. Just get a sergeant on bike. ok? then get kor'sarro khan. got that? good. no take whatever bits you want of kor'sarro khan and stick 'em on the sergeant. that wasn't too hard was it?

The way you say that it sounds like you work at a day care or with mentally disabled. Problem with Khan is that the model is probably three or four pieces (torso, hands holding sword, backpack and whatever else)

Okay, so he can be "easily" sawed in half and mounted on a bike...

Except for the fact that he's holding a two-handed fething sword, and it's a metal model. You'd be better off taking a regular plastic Marine on bike and just converting it yourself if that were the case, since the only usable part of the entire model would be his chest and head.

Really, really stupid move on GW's part, but I guess that's what they'd call par for the course. It just wouldn't be GW if they made sense.

Sidstyler wrote:Really, really stupid move on GW's part, but I guess that's what they'd call par for the course. It just wouldn't be GW if they made sense.

Exactly what I thought then I came across this. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1400018&prodId=prod1400027

I suppose they want you to buy this and a space marine bike as well as Khan then do a head and weapon swap and pop him on the bike.

lol. I dont see why you cant just plonk him in a rhino with troops. please enlighten me

yeah,
The issue is basic, White Scars are the Bike Marines!
Their Leader should be on a Bike!



Panic...

Sidstyler wrote:Really, really stupid move on GW's part, but I guess that's what they'd call par for the course. It just wouldn't be GW if they made sense.

It does make sense...for them from a placement, packaging and production standpoint. Of course, the irony in this case is that the actual product isn't all that useful to the customer. I think this example -- like some others we've seen lately -- shows what's important to GW and where their heads are these days. *shrug*

Sidstyler wrote:

Delephont wrote:Wow, you lot are a hard crowd to please! This is one of the BEST Space Marine models I've seen from GW in a long long time!

The fact he's not on a bike is, for me, irrelevant......

You know who this guy is, right? The fact that he doesn't have a bike is just a tad relevant considering that anyone who uses him will almost definitely be taking the god-damned bike! There's very little point in taking him on foot so the fact that you can only buy the on-foot version is more than a little silly...

Other than that yeah, it's a good sculpt. But still...why?

I agree with Sidstyler.

I mean, come on. This is like making a Sammael model without a bike. Chaos Spiky Marines without Spikes. It shouldn't happen. Ever.

Even I thought that GW had a few brain cells. Guess not.

To repeat my question from earlier, do his rules have him on foot or on a bike? Or options for both?

Both.

Ironhide wrote:I don't see why he has to hold it two-handed. Moonfang isn't a relic blade, it's a power sword that is a White Scars relic...

yeah,
This is probabily the most important observation in this thread.
It's kinda implied that it's a relic blade, but it doesn't actually say it...
The model and the codex art Show a two handed blade...

Relic blade - two handed - Kor'Sarro Khan will have 3 attacks at str6 in combat.
Power Sword - single handed - Kor'Sarro Khan will have 4 attacks at str4 in combat. (he has a pistol)



It's a bit messy...
Panic...

Huh. Then I have to admit it is a little weird. I'm surprised, as I thought most special characters were still zero-options.

Ironhide wrote:



Look familiar? No originality.

Because standing heroically, screaming, and pointing with your sword/axe/crozius is soooo original.

I like this model cause it's not doing that. Same reason I like the DA captain, he's not screaming and pointing with his sword.

This model has me completely irritated. Why cannot GW produce a nice, useful and original model for a character that hasn't gotten a model yet? We have like three Calgar versions, but when they make a monster like Khan, they just copypasta a Vanguard vet and call it a day. The obvious thing to have done would have been to either:

a) sculpt ONLY a bike model, even if it was just the torso-up

b) sculpt a pose that would have been easy to convert

Did they make this guy on a bike awhile back?

No.

If GW doesn't want to do the work to make an outstanding model, then why not just have open sculpting contest with the winner recieving a prize. GW gets all rights to the model and the modeller gets a cash prize or somthing comparable.

Blightdron wrote:I found this on the Games workshop website- looks like a bloody good model.

When I look at it up close and all that pose looks bloody slowed

You might as well just buy the White Scar bike bitz insterad of this model.

does someone have a side pic of him. that sword looks awfully straight for a guy coming from a world based off mongolia.

Smashotron wrote:This model has me completely irritated. Why cannot GW produce a nice, useful and original model for a character that hasn't gotten a model yet? We have like three Calgar versions, but when they make a monster like Khan, they just copypasta a Vanguard vet and call it a day.

There's three Calgars because they made one model for him in the late 80s, one around 1994, and one around 2005. I think that's perfectly reasonable.

Honestly, I think the model is okay by it's own merits. Much nicer than the model for Vulkan, which is even more overdetailed than this one and lacks something even resembling a dynamic pose. Still a bit baffling that there's no modeled bike option, but whatever. They'll probably rename the "White Scars Commander Conversion Pack" to "Khan on Bike Conversion Pack" and call it a day.

This actually seems pretty easy to model on a bike after taking a better look at it

just need a good razor saw and some GS.


Cut him in half, giving you a top section and waist downwards.
cut the legs so they can be positioned onto the footwells of a bike, position the waist area onto the bike and use GS to join the gaps and cover any mistakes (hopefully none)

cut the left hand from the sword.
cut the left arm off.
seperate the shoulder pad section for use later on.
use a biker arm with the metal shoulder section + GS to pose it holding the bike bars. (shouldnt be too much work)
cut and position the right arm to look like he is swinging the sword.


As i said, not much work atall
ok, it may seem like alot of work, but it should take no longer than an hour or 2.
and by doing it this way you keep all the detail on the model.

shuma you should do that as a tutorial when it comes out so for everyone

Ratbarf wrote:Well, Space marines are a major army with their own codex and hes in it. To not have a bike model is just stupid. At least put out a captian on a bike plastic kit. Now that would be cool.

No kidding. As I build my WS successor army, it astounds me to realize that the only characters offered on bikes are either Ravenwing (Sammael) or a chaplain. Neither of which is really a good source for generic captain-worthy bikes or riders, as they're both too encrusted with iconography that'd have to be cut off/repurposed.