female Chaos space Marines

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**alarmingrick**

Mistress of minis wrote:

"Sometimes I think the fluff-tards are too busy figuring out rules exploits to exercise thier imagination from the well worn path GW sets out for all of its sheep."

QFT!!!!

and i don't get why power/terminator has to be modeled with boobs? seriously?

**Orkeosaurus**

Mellon wrote:Remember rule number one. The 40k universe runs on the Rule of Cool. If something makes for awesome stories or impressive models it will exist!

And that's why we can't have female space marines.

**CT GAMER**

Death By Monkeys wrote:And that was exactly what I was talking about. Great stuff, Xedric!

And it is exactly what i suggested to you.

make up your mind...

**SONS of ORAR**

no no no no no!!!! astartes are ALWAYS male... loyal or chaos...

**thompie12**

Wait you believe that little green men fight guys in blue green and red Power Suits, but you dont believe that SM can be woman?

**SONS of ORAR**

SM cannot be women

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it can never be so... maybe sisters of battle that have turned traitor (this is very unlikely) but there are NO female Astartes!

**Bla_Ze**

Theoretically its possible for anyone to become a space marine since the organ implantation can be done on whoever you want.

**Kanluwen**

Bla_Ze wrote:Theoretically its possible for anyone to become a space marine since the organ implantation can be done on whoever you want.

Nope. It's keyed to male genotypes.

**thompie12**

Just stop this neverending discussion i am making female CSM and if you think it is impossible, fine go ahead.

**Kanluwen**

Then why bother asking for opinions if you're going to disregard them?

**thompie12**

i wanted to know what was your opinion on them, not an never ending discussion about ether Sm can be female or not.

**Death By Monkeys**

SONS of ORAR wrote:SM cannot be women

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it can never be so... maybe sisters of battle that have turned traitor (this is very unlikely) but there are NO female Astartes!

Slaanesh has got some amazing powers. I bet S/He could turn ordinary male CSMs into female CSMs if S/He wanted to. And heck, Tzeentch ain't called the Lord of Change for nothing!

**Kanluwen**

thompie12 wrote:i wanted to know what was your opinion on them, not an never ending discussion about ether Sm can be female or not.

Then the general opinion seems to be that Female Chaos(or Loyalist) Space Marines are a ridiculous idea and shouldn't be done.
Just like Chaos Tau.

**thompie12**

For female loyalist i understand, with all the rules of the imperium. But Chaos space marines don't use the rules any more, and that gene seed can mutate just like humans can.

**Mistress of minis**

Ya, its impossible to keep this topic on modeling, even when thats the intent. Like herding cats.

So, bottom line- theyre your figs- others dont have to like them- you do

I'd look through some of the other plastic kits for easy to use female heads, Ive seen some success with the high elf sprues.

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Kanluwen wrote:
thompie12 wrote:i wanted to know what was your opinion on them, not an never ending discussion about ether Sm can be female or not.

Then the general opinion seems to be that Female Chaos(or Loyalist) Space Marines are a ridiculous idea and shouldn't be done.
Just like Chaos Tau.

General opinion is that GW is and has been price gouging us for years. We still buy thier stuff.

Doesnt have to make sense to you, to be a good idea and provide enjoyment for someone else.

**poipo32**

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:Option 2: Use Actual CSM models and craft some Green-stuf bewbs. If you need assistance with this, either using a SM Powerarmor/ SoB Poweramor or a Male/Female (yeah, Female Incubi is a bit of an oxymoron) Incubi as template/example will def help.

DO NOT sculpt greenstuff breast on the armor, it is simply ugly. The woman would need to have something S sized breast to need special super breasted armor, a power is already big enough.

**countchocula86**

Not to sound "male superior" but girls have cooties!

Basically you have 2 options. Authentic female marines, and hyper sexual female marines.

For the more authentic approach, I think you'll mostly be concerned with head swapping to give a somewhat more feminine look.

For the hyper sexual approach, go for skimpy armor, and heavily armored boobage. Probably for chaos, I think this look would be more appropriate...plus...so much more fun!

Also, btw, this isnt 'female space marines' but 'female CHAOS space marines' and if the powers of chaos can twist thoughts, scatter baby primarchs, and mutate other creatures, then why the heck cant they make female creatures and put them in power armor? Why cant they have taken a baby primarch and warped its genetics?

Seriously, Orks being created from spores is all well and good, but female Chaos Space Marines causes a hubub? Jeebus

**Orkeosaurus**

The point of Chaos is that its corrupting influence moves those under it away from humanity, and the order of natural law, and turns you monstrous, defying natural law.

It doesn't just go transform men into women. That's not corruption, you're as much a pure, order-filled human as you ever were. Chaos makes spines grow out of your arms, and your mouth turn into a fanged maw, and your hair fall out. It doesn't recreate the plotline from The Hot Chick with all of your chaos marines as Rob Schneider.

Slaanesh doesn't even turn you female, despite what everyone seems to think. Slaanesh turns you androgynous or hermaphroditic (daemonettes aren't so female without their loincloths on). This means a male space marine becomes more feminine, but it won't make them female.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

@Kan: So you never see a topic where Painting and Modeling turns to Fluff Nitpicking?

**Daemon-Archon Ren**

Mistress of minis wrote:Sometimes I think the fluff-tards[ are too busy figuring out rules exploits to exercise thier imagination from the well worn path GW sets out for all of its sheep.

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

Modifying Female Incubi, Archon/Drachon. and many other Dark eldar for that matter (of the female varity) with some CSM bits of Greenstuff should fit you well with your attempted Chick's of Chaos list.

**Lint**

So in "Storm of Iron" the Irown Warriors asp champ was an undivided csm with strong Khorne leanings. He captured a female guard officer and made her clean his armour every night. Slowly she began to hear the armour speaking to her, telling her to wear it, and have her revenge. Filling her head with thoughts of bloodshed, and vengance, the armour (which was indeed SM power armour, for a space marine) won out over the female officer and talked her into putting it on. When she did, the armour contorted both her body, and itself, so that they fit eachother perfectly, and she then went on to become a berzerker, and skulls, blood, etc. followed.

So there you have an official explanation, in the fluff, for a female csm. Granted, she's more of a khornate cultist in power armour, but IMHO it's a better explanation than a female primarch, or a lost legion of female sm, or *god forbid* a wacky scheme by the alpha legion to make a bunch of seductress/anime, infiltrator double Delicious fembots.

Also, from the above example, don't get cornered by only a slaanesh theme.
(Nurgle) Women are some nasty creatures, you'd be surprised.
They can also be very conniving manipulators ala Tzeentch.
Also don't forget women make some pretty crazy berzerkers, especially if the blood is flowing

**Orkeosaurus**

All the more reason they never should have dropped the Lost and the Damned. They're a lot more interesting than Chaos Marines, honestly.

**Mistress of minis**

I think Lints example (good catch btw- Id forgotten that one!) is precisely the right mindset. It can happen, its not common, but its a big galaxy- that seems to be full of narrow minds

You all act like theres a big book of allowable mutations...

**Daemon-Archon Ren**

There is one actually... its called Liber Chaotica!

Kidding aside, I think the major confusion is between Female CSM or Female "Traitor Guard"/ Chaos Sisters of Battle (in the sense that they are women in powerarmor, NOT Evil brides of the emperor/nuns with guns, but nothings truly stopping you from making Chaos Sororitas as ALL are suseptable to Chaos)

**Orkeosaurus**

It's not a matter of possibility; it's never a matter of possibility. The warp can turn an army of space marines into ham sandwiches, who still go around fighting enemies of the Imperium, with pastrami guns and heavy bolognas. To say that the warp can turn space marine into women is to miss the point; it can do anything.

What matter is what it does, not what it can do. What is consistent with the setting, and with the flavor of each faction. To have a chapter of space marines be randomly "gender-bended" while going through the warp is silly, like the WarHam chapter is silly, and if you're not actually making a joke army then it's a very bad explanation.

I'm no fan of Dr. Thunder's fluff for the Black Widows, but it fit the setting a lot better (and had a lot more effort put behind it) than "random mutations" does.

**Kanluwen**

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:@Kan: So you never see a topic where Painting and Modeling turns to Fluff Nitpicking?

Do you even read the OP, or do you just try hard to look silly?

**ZacktheChaosChild**

Dont use green stuff from GW. Totally overpriced.

**Menelker**

You could always try something like this

**Makov**

God, more female marines?

**BaronIveagh**

... is it a daemonette of khorne, slaanesh or nurgle???

Daemon Princess, anyone?

Remember the cursed foundings had a lot of strange stuff too. If they had marines who walked around ON FIRE without burning, femmarines seems rather mild...

@makov: They're out to get you... they'll give your Ultramarines cooties!