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**Elusive71**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Warseer.com wrote:Phantom Titan

I'm looking at this model, and thinking it's a bit off. Head's not right, and the shoulderpads seem to lack presence.

Still a very nice model, at least as a base for additional work..

There's two unfinished head options shown in that picture. More to come maybe? Seeing as the Phantom has a smaller head now, but is taller than the Armorcast Phantoms, I wonder if the old Armorcast heads might fit on it. Particularly the elusive Warlock head...

**Tacobake**

OH MAN. That stuff is cool. Love the Ork copter.

**Grimstonefire**

I found a post from the guy I (may have) mentioned before, probably means a lot to you 40k guys, but it didn't to me.

Had a good chat to several of the designers from Forge World today, with some interesting stuff for Pre-Heresy collectors:

- Raven Guard collectors will be very well catered for. The forthcoming Ravenguard conversion kits will feature lots of Mk VI armour, including chest plates, helmets and for the first time, heresy era backpacks.They also have some very cool Sternguard style bolters whihc will be worth saving up.

- A couple of the FW designers are keen on pre-heresy, and say we could well see some other heresy era marks of armour being incorperated into future space marine releases. There is no set plans for this but it is something they are keen to do

- There will be a new small scale space marine landing craft NOT THE STORM RAVEN! which will be aimed at the Raven Guard and possibly released alongside IA:IX

I did pick up some other pieces of information which I am not allowed to share with the interweb. Suffice to say the future looks bright for pre-heresy players

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=196193

**Alpharius**

Kanluwen wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Did someone happen to notice the price on the Raven Guard Marine Upgrade kit?

And how many torsos are in it?

Making a wild, out of my arse guess on it based off the Red Scorpions kit:

16 GBP for enough upgrade parts to do 10 models and have some spares leftover.

OR
25 GBP for a complete(all the parts, including plastic sprues) 5 man squad.

Since I have a ton of MKVI plastic legs, I'm hoping for the 10 for 16 GBP.

Usually the 5 for 25 GBP is for Jump Pack equipped assault troops - right?

**Commander Endova**

Ironically, as big a fan of the Raven Guard as I am, my favorite new thing has to be the Ork Kopter. Incredible. Makes me want to get a codex and see if I can build a kompletely kommando themed list.

Also, good to see the Storm Eagle isn't dead. I might end up using it as a Storm Raven, though, if GW hasn't released a plastic one first.

**Alpharius**

Commander Endova wrote:Ironically, as big a fan of the Raven Guard as I am, my favorite new thing has to be the Ork Kopter. Incredible. Makes me want to get a codex and see if I can build a kompletely kommando themed list.

Also, good to see the Storm Eagle isn't dead. I might end up using it as a Storm Raven, though, if GW hasn't released a plastic one first.

Which would really be a win/win for FW/GW and a massive loss for our bank balances, I'm afraid...

**DX3**

I said it once - and I'll say it again.

I want that Phantom Titan.. hope it's ready by GamesDay!

**LunaHound**

Elusive71 wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
Warseer.com wrote:Phantom Titan

I'm looking at this model, and thinking it's a bit off. Head's not right, and the shoulderpads seem to lack presence.

Still a very nice model, at least as a base for additional work..

There's two unfinished head options shown in that picture. More to come maybe? Seeing as the Phantom has a smaller head now, but is taller than the Armorcast Phantoms, I wonder if the old Armorcast heads might fit on it. Particularly the elusive Warlock head...

The shoulder pad is droopy , it should have 2 head options like the revenant , it better do because the one it has now is ugly.
atm , its lacking in the majestic look which the other titans have.
Which is a disappointment because i was looking forward to this model so much that i actually left aside $ just for it.

**Anung Un Rama**

It's official. My Ork army needs more aircraft. By Gork, this is so awesome!

**BrookM**

LunaHound wrote:
Elusive71 wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
Warseer.com wrote:Phantom Titan

I'm looking at this model, and thinking it's a bit off. Head's not right, and the shoulderpads seem to lack presence.

Still a very nice model, at least as a base for additional work..

There's two unfinished head options shown in that picture. More to come maybe? Seeing as the Phantom has a smaller head now, but is taller than the Armorcast Phantoms, I wonder if the old Armorcast heads might fit on it. Particularly the elusive Warlock head...

The shoulder pad is droopy , it should have 2 head options like the revenant , it better do because the one it has now is ugly.
atm , its lacking in the majestic look which the other titans have.
Which is a disappointment because i was looking forward to this model so much that i actually left aside $ just for it.

It's a WIP mock-up.

**LunaHound**

I hope so Brook , i really do.
Because usually even its a mock up , the general shape has already taken form minus the details.

But i really hope you are right because Phantom Titan is my first resin model i own, so i always missed it after i sold it T-T

**Dysartes**

LunaHound wrote:The shoulder pad is droopy , it should have 2 head options like the revenant , it better do because the one it has now is ugly.
atm , its lacking in the majestic look which the other titans have.
Which is a disappointment because i was looking forward to this model so much that i actually left aside $ just for it.

Luna, what do you think the thing down by it's foot is?

And I'm not sure how you can claim it isn't majestic - it is noticeably taller than a Reaver, and that's without factoring in the "wings". I'm not convinced by the close combat weapon, but that's just me.

**MeanGreenStompa**

I don't get the fuss over the ork kopta, it's poor looking, front is a deffkopta from AoBR with a grot turret glued on the nose (with no legs for the grot, just the round bit stuck on) then the rest of it looks like balsa wood. It oddly reminds me of the dark eldar raider with it's odd wing design. More I sit and look at it, less and less I like it. It feels lazy to me.

**Moopy**

Grot tanks?!?Awesome!!

"It's not the Storm Raven" HA HA!

Meka Dread and Mega Dread. I wonder what the difference will be...

**LunaHound**

Dysartes wrote:
LunaHound wrote:The shoulder pad is droopy , it should have 2 head options like the revenant , it better do because the one it has now is ugly.
atm , its lacking in the majestic look which the other titans have.
Which is a disappointment because i was looking forward to this model so much that i actually left aside $ just for it.

Luna, what do you think the thing down by it's foot is?

And I'm not sure how you can claim it isn't majestic - it is noticeably taller than a Reaver, and that's without factoring in the "wings". I'm not convinced by the close combat weapon, but that's just me.

Well , how tall something is doesnt make it majestic , atleast not to me. Because for all i care it could be in epic size , but it could still look majestic.
But to get into it in detail , i guess , its missing a very solid "core" .
Because for a model that is supposed to be agile ( hence the thin limbs ) how the core looks from where the limbs grow out from , is very important.
And the shoulder pad and the thigh pads that are supposed to help to convey the power sure isnt helping , because its drooping lol

The thing by its foot is its 2nd head , the same eldar guardian variant as i call it that the revenant has as well.
But it been a phantom , i was hoping it would have different looking head then the revenant

**Elusive71**

LunaHound wrote:I hope so Brook , i really do.
Because usually even its a mock up , the general shape has already taken form minus the details.

But i really hope you are right because Phantom Titan is my first resin model i own, so i always missed it after i sold it T-T

Luna, it is a mock up. From page 2 of this thread:

Elusive71 wrote:According to Warseer's RCGothic:

The Phantom Titan from the Photos is made from a polyurethane foam, and is Will Hayes Sketch model only. It is NOT a resin final, nor even a working model, and as such has no joint articulation nor any fine detail besides what is pencilled on.

Legs, hips, groin and knee joints from the actual model were displayed right next to the sketch up. The actual working model has some pretty amazing double-articulated knee joints, and the hips are looking pretty impressive as well. It was posed standing on one leg like the revenant, and from all signs the final model will be freakishly dynamic.

And if you read my post (that you quoted), you'll note that I pointed out that there is a second head option in that picture. It's by its foot as mentioned by Dysartes.

**LunaHound**

@Elusive i know its a mock up , brookm said that as well.
Im just saying even if its a mock up the over all form /shape of a model is already decided.

And yes i saw the 2 heads , they look too similar to the revenant ones , which is disappointment.

**Elusive71**

Keep in mind too that the Reaver's shoulders, torso and legs underwent changes between Forge World's previewed prototype and the final kit, so this Phantom may not be final.

**LunaHound**

Elusive71 wrote:Keep in mind too that the Reaver's shoulders, torso and legs underwent changes between Forge World's previewed prototype and the final kit, so this Phantom may not be final.

Hmm... the drawing from page 2 you mean?

I know it might not be final! mister , thats why i kept saying "i really hope you are right"

lol because im dead serious about my love for the phantom titan.

**Kroothawk**

I edited my first post to include a summary of all information gathered at Warseer and here.

**Dysartes**

IIRC, the drawing shown on page 2 was Jes Goodwin's sketches for Revenants/Phantoms for either Epic 40k or Epic: Armageddon: Stormwind, though I can't remember which.

The model I saw had a very strong resemblance to the Titan Legions era Phantom.

I do remember Will saying he'd tried shoulder-mounting a pulse laser, but took it out as, if you looked at the titan from the side, it seemed to be smoking a cigarette in an unusual-shaped holder.

**Elusive71**

Thanks Kroothawk

**LunaHound**

Kroothawk wrote:I edited my first post to include a summary of all information gathered at Warseer and here.

Super :3

**Elusive71**

Looking at that photo of the Phantom again, I'm thinking that the perceived droopiness and lack of majesty may be due to the angle of the photo. I like it, but not quite enough to buy one yet. That will probably change once I see more photos of it.

**Anung Un Rama**

Kroothawk wrote:I edited my first post to include a summary of all information gathered at Warseer and here.

Why not just post all the pictures directly and save us even more time?

Also, everytime I see your Avatar I think it's a Predator.

**chris13f**

Sweet! The storm eagle lives!!!!!!!!!!! Im so glad that al the people who said it was dead on my thread were wrong.

**whalemusic360**

I'm digging the Ravenguard stuff, other then the RT backpacks. Do we know if those are part of the upgrade pack or not?

**Kroothawk**

Anung Un Rama wrote:Why not just post all the pictures directly and save us even more time?

Because most pics are Warseer attachments that can't be copied directly. I would have to upload all into some gallery.
And it would have made the post unreadable.

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Did someone happen to notice the price on the Raven Guard Marine Upgrade kit?

And how many torsos are in it?

Making a wild, out of my arse guess on it based off the Red Scorpions kit:

16 GBP for enough upgrade parts to do 10 models and have some spares leftover.

OR
25 GBP for a complete(all the parts, including plastic sprues) 5 man squad.

Since I have a ton of MKVI plastic legs, I'm hoping for the 10 for 16 GBP.

Usually the 5 for 25 GBP is for Jump Pack equipped assault troops - right?

Yep.

**SlaveToDorkness**

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