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Woo thats like a super rivet bot so many rivets o_o

Gorlack wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:
Death Korps of Krieg
Rules Update will be included in the reprint of the 3 Vraks books in about 2 months and then put on the website as a pdf-file.

Hm. A reprint of the Vraks books? Had considered buying them come april as a birthday gift, but if they are gonna receive an update in a few months I would rather wait. Anyone know the extent of this update and should I wait?

My guess is that it's just the armylists they are putting online, not the rest.

@Kanluwen: Edited the first post so that Eldar storyline begins with IA10. And I have heard another version that IA 9 will be "a Space Marine book" ( http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4524990&postcount=166 ). This sounds like not continuing the Ork storyline. What have you heard?

Gorlack wrote:Anyone know the extent of this update and should I wait?

My guess (!) is that it just replaces the old DKoK rules/list chapter with an updated one and keeps everything else including typing errors

Hm. The Phantom is large and all, but really, the basic Armorcast model still cannot really be improved upon (not even by Navarro slapping 500 greenstuff nicknacks and ornaments on it).

Agamemnon2 wrote:Hm. The Phantom is large and all, but really, the basic Armorcast model still cannot really be improved upon (not even by Navarro slapping 500 greenstuff nicknacks and ornaments on it).

I have to back that up. As neat as that was, and impressively skilled, it didn't really make the model more modern. they should just reproduce the Armorcast figure, but with more articulation.

Ok, having read exactly what my friend was told, and having reviewed what I was told, there was some significant news for WHFB stuff at the open day.

To try and put into context, it's fairly big news, even considering we've had no news on this. I think I will actually make a new thread for it, and leave this one to the tread heads.

I've asked him to post what he heard on warseer, then I will copy it over here. I need to decide how much to post from what I heard, as some of it I don't think I should have been told and I don't want to get people in trouble.

On 40k news, I read over on warseer that the guys are planning to do more stand alone IA books in the future (no doubt because they want to bring out 3 a year, I think that's what I read). So theoretically the next book could just be stand alone eldar.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Hm. The Phantom is large and all, but really, the basic Armorcast model still cannot really be improved upon (not even by Navarro slapping 500 greenstuff nicknacks and ornaments on it).

The classic design is indeed the best.

Navarro also did some difficult repositioning of the legs which added dynamism to the model. Your description of his work is not reflective, it was, frankly put, a masterpiece and one of the bravest undertakings in greenstuffing I've ever seen.

How would you use the Runt bot in games of 40k?? Or is it more of a showpiece?

No doubt some wretch has put one on ebay already........'RARE OOP, RUNT BOT,FORGEWORLD,BUY IT NOW £300'......

Grimstonefire wrote:Ok, having read exactly what my friend was told, and having reviewed what I was told, there was some significant news for WHFB stuff at the open day.

To try and put into context, it's fairly big news, even considering we've had no news on this. I think I will actually make a new thread for it, and leave this one to the tread heads.

I've asked him to post what he heard on warseer, then I will copy it over here. I need to decide how much to post from what I heard, as some of it I don't think I should have been told and I don't want to get people in trouble.

I suppose that depends on where you were when you heard it?

Out in the open, on Open Day?

Probably OK.

Still, your better judgment is the best way to go.

BUT, I am certainly interested!

re the Phantom -
I remember when we all saw Big Bird as a wip and all thinking that the only thing unfinished were the crappy wings.
How wrong were we??

Love the idea of the grot tanks and the Raven Guard is looking quite sext too.

Kroothawk wrote:@Kanluwen: Edited the first post so that Eldar storyline begins with IA10. And I have heard another version that IA 9 will be "a Space Marine book" ( http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4524990&postcount=166 ). This sounds like not continuing the Ork storyline. What have you heard?

Gorlack wrote:Anyone know the extent of this update and should I wait?

My guess (!) is that it just replaces the old DKoK rules/list chapter with an updated one and keeps everything else including typing errors

Everything I've heard about IA9 suggests that it continues this storyline, just with a larger emphasis on Raven Guard rather than Elysians.

Bash the Bosh wrote:How would you use the Runt bot in games of 40k?? Or is it more of a showpiece?

Mine is going to stand in for a Warboss

Wait, so IA10 is Eldar? I thought IA9 was going to be Imperial vs Orks w/Eldar showing up.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Wait, so IA10 is Eldar? I thought IA9 was going to be Imperial vs Orks w/Eldar showing up.

That was a theory that's been floating around.
It's possible, but I don't think they'll do it because they like to keep IAs as "Imperium v. 1 Enemy".

Don't you mean "Imperial losing v. 1 Enemy".

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I don't get the fuss over the ork kopta, it's poor looking, front is a deffkopta from AoBR with a grot turret glued on the nose (with no legs for the grot, just the round bit stuck on) then the rest of it looks like balsa wood. It oddly reminds me of the dark eldar raider with it's odd wing design. More I sit and look at it, less and less I like it. It feels lazy to me.

I was there myself and saw the kopter from all angles, it was easily my most anticpated new thing to see and yeah I was fairly let down by it. The idea is very cool but the model doesn't live up to it. it is imo just too flimsy looking. Yes Orks build their stuff out of scrap, that's awesome, that's why I collect Orks but they build their stuff solidily. The kopter doesn't look at all solid, it looks as though just the chain linking the two rotors could rip the thing apart if a boy got caught up in it.

It's hard to say why I think it looks wrong but I think you can sum it up by saying that it's just a flying platform, I like the idea and I'll probably use it but I'll be building my own I suspect.

Fortunately everything else was awesome, the grot tanks are great looking models, rammed full of character as just about anything grotty from forgeworld is and the mekadread is superbly detailed, almost made the mega dred standing next to it look plain!

Ork weapon sprues were great, more variety and lots of different bits, included a twin linked big shoota quite clearly intended for the plastic deffkopta.

Had a flick through some pages from the new book, loads of new stuff there and more to come I suspect, no rules present for the warkopta or the grot tanks sadly but there was some nice line drawings for new buggies, very mad max looking, big all over roll bars like that one from the last next gen star trek movie. Artwork for the ork big bomma plane available for epic, no idea if it's coming for 40k or not, forgot to ask.

This book only covers goff's deathskulls and evil sunz so there'll defintely be a second book for ork players to look forward to. The warboss on bike model was seen in some artwork, labelled as an evil sunz biker boss. That's all I can really remember, it was a hell of a lot to take in and we were talking with Alan Bligh at the same time.

Tau suits were absolute sex, I'll be collecting tau at some point in the future so I look forward to seeing more of these.

The new eldar titan was huge and really impressive looking, eldar players are in for a treat.

I came away with a runtbot, grot krew set and the aforementioned warboss on bike so was very happy. A great event all round, we were both glad we made the effort to get up and go.

With all the mentions of the Imperium always losing in IA, I feel I should point out that technically speaking, they did win IA8.

The Dreadnote wrote:With all the mentions of the Imperium always losing in IA, I feel I should point out that technically speaking, they did win IA8.

A pyrrhic victory at that. Bitter sweet.

@Morskul. I like that idea. Uber hard boss

@Gargskull and Meangreenstompa. I have to agree with you both. I love the idea, but the model just dosen't flick my switch. I may have to go with a bastardised 1:35 scale Chinook. That should be a laugh building that monstrousity

Scottywan82 wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:Hm. The Phantom is large and all, but really, the basic Armorcast model still cannot really be improved upon (not even by Navarro slapping 500 greenstuff nicknacks and ornaments on it).

I have to back that up. As neat as that was, and impressively skilled, it didn't really make the model more modern. they should just reproduce the Armorcast figure, but with more articulation.

In the interests of pedantry (and for anyone who doesn't know), the Phantom's not original to Armorcast, it's a scaled up, but otherwise identical version of Jes Goodwin's original metal Adeptus Titanicus Phantoms from the late '80s.

That said, I agree that they don't need to update it.

They need to update it , atleast so it doesnt look like the armorcast version. If they dont , it'll be pretty hard to convince customers to pay FW price for something that has been done and around for decades.

Just so every Dakkite knows I'm uploading more pics here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-11360-7339_Open%20Day.html

Thanks Bloodthirster! Especially for the the shot of the Phantom's leg articulation that we'd heard about. Can you imagine one of those things in a full on gallop? Yikes!

yeah,
Grot Tanks FTW! I'll have a full set please.

The eldar phantom looks great, I think the shoulderpads are fine, any more up turned and/or pointy and they'd start to go dark.

Panic...

No prop Elusive, happy to provide!

Edit: Some info from the event;

In IA9, Part two of the campaign, the Eldar are discovered by the Imperium acting like they did in DOW2. ie; Herding the Orks to this world.

I asked about Mechanicum Knights, one of the designers looked uneasy when I asked, while an other talked as he was hiding something.

The Tauros AV costs 60pts and comes with the GL as standard.

The others clans are unlikely to be covered in the next book, but rather in a future one.

Here's some info on Buzzgobs role in the campaign;










Painboy can now be taken as HQ choices, their called Pain Boss's.

As for other news I was a bit miffed, the winning raffle ticket for the Reaver was No;42, one of my tickets was 24. Otherall though a great weekend Pics to follow soon. Cheers, BT

Oh and before I post this, in the participation games I took out two Warhounds One in each game, with my Stompa's. I was also about two kill a Reaver Titan just when all the Imperial players cleared off!

Bloodthirster wrote:
Painboy can now be taken as HQ choices, their called Pain Boss's.

Not big Pain's?

Bloodthirster wrote:
Painboy can now be taken as HQ choices, their called Pain Boss's.

Yeah! I was waiting for that.

I want that Phantom!

LunaHound wrote:They need to update it , atleast so it doesnt look like the armorcast version. If they dont , it'll be pretty hard to convince customers to pay FW price for something that has been done and around for decades.

It won't be that hard. The Armorcast one is relatively difficult to get a hold of, tends to go for silly money as a result, and there's a whole generation of gamers who don't even know it exists.

Gargskull wrote:
This book only covers goff's deathskulls and evil sunz so there'll defintely be a second book for ork players to look forward to.

Bloodthirster wrote:
The others clans are unlikely to be covered in the next book, but rather in a future one.

...the feth... Why? Where the hell are the clan specific conversion kits for Nobs and Boyz? The Specific Clan Warbosses? Dun't fergit bout us blud-axez or yer gunna land yerselfz wif a choppa to yer noggin an a tank-ammer to yer crown jewelz...

Bash the Bosh wrote:
@Gargskull and Meangreenstompa. I have to agree with you both. I love the idea, but the model just dosen't flick my switch. I may have to go with a bastardised 1:35 scale Chinook. That should be a laugh building that monstrousity

I'd personally prefer using a Russian hind as the starter, drippin in dakka! (trumpeter do one at 1:35 scale)