Fateweaver wrote:

Also, when was it ever a requirement to post in the toy soldiers threads to be a member on dakka. Even if I didn't post anywhere else on dakka I have as much right to post in OT as you do.

Emperors Faithful wrote:MGS, I haven't really picked up Fateweaver derailing the thread all that much. You might want to lay off him.


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Fateweaver wrote:

Also, when was it ever a requirement to post in the toy soldiers threads to be a member on dakka. Even if I didn't post anywhere else on dakka I have as much right to post in OT as you do.

Good point. I come here mostly for the OT forum. And the lols.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:No, seriously, you want to jump in here to fateweaver's defence.

WtF do you contribute, stupid arsed 4chan pics and drivel.

Again, sweet FA. So you tell me princess, what the feth is your opinion worth?

ALSO
WELCOME TO MONDAY!

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:MGS, I haven't really picked up Fateweaver derailing the thread all that much. You might want to lay off him.


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Fateweaver wrote:

Also, when was it ever a requirement to post in the toy soldiers threads to be a member on dakka. Even if I didn't post anywhere else on dakka I have as much right to post in OT as you do.

Good point. I come here mostly for the OT forum. And the lols.

Then you should leave as well.

sexiest_hero wrote:
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/multiple-pedestrians-ignore-dying-new-york-hero-hugo-alfredo-tale-yax/19452892?icid=main|main|dl1|link1|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fmultiple-pedestrians-ignore-dying-new-york-hero-hugo-alfredo-tale-yax%2F19452892

Aol news.

(April 24) -- A homeless man who was stabbed while saving a woman from a knife-wielding attacker lay dying in a pool of his own blood for more than an hour while several New Yorkers walked past without calling for help.

Surveillance video obtained by the New York Post shows that some passers-by paused to gawk at Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax early Sunday morning and yet kept on walking.

One man came out of a nearby building and took a cellphone photo of the victim before leaving. Another leaned over and vigorously shook the dead man before walking away. But most people never stopped.

Firefighters arrived more than an hour and 20 minutes after Tale-Yax collapsed. By that time, the 31-year-old was dead.

"They needed to help and call the police. I don't get it," resident Ramon Bellasco, 46, told the Post.

The incident happened at 7:21 a.m. almost a week ago at 88 Road and 144th Street in the borough of Queens, but police didn't have a clear idea of what happened until recently.

Tale-Yax is seen on the grainy video approaching a man who was threatening a woman with a knife. The man turned and stabbed Tale-Yax but most of the action is out of the security camera's field of vision. Both the stabber and the woman then fled in different directions and Tale-Yax stumbled a few paces before collapsing face-down on the sidewalk.

Within a minute or so, the first of a long series of people begins walking by Tale-Yax without going to his aid.

Police told the Post they received four 911 calls at around the time of the attack reporting a woman screaming, but found nothing. They said they received no other 911 calls.

The incident is reminiscent of the rape and murder of Kitty Genovese, also in Queens, in 1964. In that case, dozens of people witnessed some or all of the attack and yet no one did anything to stop it.

No arrests have been made in the latest slaying, and police have been unable to identify the woman Tale-Yax was trying to help.

Ratbarf wrote:

Imitation homeless?...not quite sure what you mean here Fate.

We have a fare share of them here too actually. Basically it's literally people who pretend to be homeless and beg for money even though they live in a decent home. You can apparently make good change on a busy day on the streets of London. The daughter of one goes to my school.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Another thread entirely derailed by fateweaver.

If Yak is still considering banning politics or religious discussion, he'd be better served banning fateweaver and seeing the difference.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:No, seriously, you want to jump in here to fateweaver's defence.

WtF do you contribute, stupid arsed 4chan pics and drivel.

Again, sweet FA. So you tell me princess, what the feth is your opinion worth?

ALSO
WELCOME TO MONDAY!

Guitardian wrote:From what I have seen (and I may be wrong I've only been on here a couple of months), the best way to get a thread locked is when it reduces to personal jabs instead of something either related to, or offshot from the origional train of thought. Nobody wants to read about one posters little gripe with anothers... Or maybe I'm wrong and should just go back to kicking sand on the playground. P.M. exists for a reason. I don't agree with Fateweaver sometimes too but I don't think it's out of line for him to share his thoughts, as we all do. I dunno maybe I'm just a hippy, right? All I'm saying is "calm down guys."

Commissar Molotov wrote:If y'all wanna blame somebody in this story, it seems like you should blame the woman who was menaced with the knife for not calling for the police and EMS...

As for the other passers-by, if it wasn't obvious that he'd been stabbed and injured, then he'd look like just another bum sleeping it off on the sidewalk. Do any of us commonly wake sleeping bums to ask them if they're "okay?"

Frazzled wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Another thread entirely derailed by fateweaver.

If Yak is still considering banning politics or religious discussion, he'd be better served banning fateweaver and seeing the difference.

His points are releveant. You can disagree with them, but they are as relevant as anything else posted here.

Catherine Susan Genovese (July 7, 1935[1] – March 13, 1964), commonly known as Kitty Genovese, was a New York City woman who was stabbed to death near her home in the Kew Gardens section of Queens, New York on March 13, 1964.[3] Genovese was buried in a family grave at Lakeview Cemetery in New Canaan, Connecticut.

The circumstances of her murder and the lack of reaction of numerous neighbors were reported by a newspaper article published two weeks later; the common portrayal of neighbors being fully aware but completely nonresponsive has later been criticized as inaccurate. Nonetheless, it prompted investigation into the social psychological phenomenon that has become known as the bystander effect (seldom: "Genovese syndrome")[4] and especially diffusion of responsibility.

The lack of reaction of numerous neighbors watching the scene prompted research into diffusion of responsibility and the bystander effect. Social psychologists John Darley and Bibb Latané started this line of research, showing that contrary to common expectations, larger numbers of bystanders decrease the likelihood that someone will step forward and help a victim. The reasons include the fact that onlookers see that others are not helping either, that onlookers believe others will know better how to help, and that onlookers feel uncertain about helping while others are watching. The Kitty Genovese case thus became a classic feature of social psychology textbooks.

In September 2007, the American Psychologist published an examination of the factual basis of coverage of the Kitty Genovese murder in psychology textbooks. The three authors concluded that the story is more parable than fact, largely because of inaccurate newspaper coverage at the time of the incident. According to the authors, "despite this absence of evidence, the story continues to inhabit our introductory social psychology textbooks (and thus the minds of future social psychologists)." One interpretation of the parable is that the drama and ease of teaching the exaggerated story makes it easier for professors to capture student attention and interest.

Social psychologists John Darley and Bibb Latané started this line of research, showing that contrary to common expectations, larger numbers of bystanders decrease the likelihood that someone will step forward and help a victim. The reasons include the fact that onlookers see that others are not helping either, that onlookers believe others will know better how to help, and that onlookers feel uncertain about helping while others are watching. The Kitty Genovese case thus became a classic feature of social psychology textbooks.