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Gah, buggering bumfeth, I just pre-ordered those duellists and the scribe + merchant blisters.

Those templates are awesome looking.

@Reds8n: Can you please upload the big pics of the other stuff as well? I am on a journey and can't do that ATM. Anyway, here are the texts:

Engineer's Ranging Set

The Engineer's Ranging Set contains useful tools to aid any budding engineer with his calculations on the battlefield. For long-range measurements the set includes a large unfolding ruler, which has an impressive range of 4ft. This is perfect for seeing whether your archers are in short range, taking aim with your stone thrower or letting loose with your Fireball. The comet-shaped dividers can be opened up to 18". They are great for moving lots of units short distances at once. The Ranging set is only available while stocks last.

This set contains one set of pre-painted plastic, comet shaped dividers with an 18" range, and a 48" bespoke folding, pre-painted plastic ruler.

Available in strictly limited numbers - order now to avoid disappointment. £18.00

Warhammer Template Set

Looking like they've been taken from an Empire Engineer's workbench, the Warhammer template set contains a pair of ornate templates for use in your games. The flame template is used for all manner of spells, the breath weapons of monstrous creatures and some exotic war machines. The area affected by the flame is defined by the outside of the template. The sun device comprises both a small and large template and even has the central holes for specific targeting. You use the inside of the circle to define the area that has been hit.

This set contains two pre-painted plastic templates, one tear-drop shaped and one round. £5.00

Please note that at least the round template is not printed on clear plastic, but fully sculpted, pre-painted and with holes!

Warhammer Counter Set

There's much that happens in the midst of battle: charges are declared, regiments turn-tail and flee, mighty beasts are wounded, and bloody combats give rise to all manner of complex situations. Luckily, The Warhammer Counter Set is here to help you keep track of it all. The set comprises six comet-shaped, double-sided charge or flee markers, eight double-sided wound and ongoing effect markers, a charge arc indicator, and a combat resolution calculator. This great-looking instrument is an easy way of adding up your combat resolution with an ingenious tally system, and the pictorial references won't let you forget any bonuses.

This set contains the following pre-painted plastic gaming aids: a combat resolution calculator, a charge arc indicator, six double-sided charge/flee markers and eight double-sided wound/ongoing effect markers. £8.00

Warhammer Skull Dice

Sculpted by Aly Morrison specifically for Warhammer, these skull dice will clatter on to the battlefield as if a set of knucklebones taken from the Old World itself.
This set contains eight distinctive dice, ivory effect dice and a carrying pouch.

Available in strictly limited numbers - order now to avoid disappointment. £7.00

Warhammer Battle Magic

This core deck of 56 large-format cards contains all the spells for every magical lore printed in the Warhammer rulebook (including the signature spell and lore attribute). Each full-colour card describes one spell, and all the information you need to use it on the battlefield, including spell type, casting value and range. Not only are the spell cards a great, tactile way of representing magic in your games but on a practical level they make selecting spells easy and speed up play in the heat of battle itself; there is no need to flick through the reference section of the rulebook, just keep the Wizard's spell cards to hand during the Magic phase.

This set contains 56 large-format cards detailing all of the spells printed in the Warhammer rulebook. £6.00

Edit: Let's see if and how long direct pic links work. BTW geat stuff, I need all of it! Good work, GW!

..still some issues with the site..some countries worse than others...almost a tradition I guess.

And delivering on their promise, Maelstrom is having a specific Warhammer-only pre-order sale for 15% off the new Warhammer Items (Code: WARHAMMER-EIGHT).

mikhaila wrote:

Voodoo Boyz wrote:The more I get "confirmed" about 8th, the more certain I am that I'm going to be giving up the game entirely.

You want me to put a book aside for you, or the spiffy gamers edition?

I'm sadly not kidding. I'm not buying a single thing for WHFB or 8th until I at least play some games. And I'll have to either proxy or borrow someone's stuff since even the Dwarf army I was building is basically obsolete and needs to be completely redone.

My DE, Demons, and Ogres are essentially unplayable. They're legal armies probably, but they're pretty much completely terrible for 8th in their current configurations.

Something similar happened in 40k when 5th came out, and I basically gave up. Now, I'm basically going back to playing more Warmachine.

Demons were unplayable in 7th and Ogres are getting a big boost with the new edition, making them playable again as well.

Dark Elves and Demons are still going to be really strong. Everything that helps infantry makes Demon core better, they have a lot of models with high initiative, access to full college lores, the new skirmisher rules were made for Flamers, Keepers just got re-reollable attacks against 99% of the game, etc. Only thing that really got screwed is plaguebearers with regen (since you can't get both ward and regen) and the stronger shooting phase for other armies makes it easier to take them out from afar.

Dark Elves don't sound like they lost anything so I'm curious what kind of army you are running in 7th that is unplayable in 8th. Blackguard are better (don't need to bother with asf banner anymore), all their ranked infantry is still solid, their shooting is going to be even more ridiculous and even their magic is crazy with a combo of power of darkness to get more power dice then combo that with the new College Lores.

I still think Ogres are screwed until they get a new book but I guess we'll see about that soon. MSU ogres is now unplayable, I don't think that their megablocks are going to be able to make up their points or capture objectives as easily and almost everything they fight is going to be stubborn but that's just my predictions.

Anyone know if the collectors edition actually has more content in it?

No i don't believe so, just prettier pages and a sick cover. Really tempted to pre-order it..

I don't do WHFB, but I still think the new stuff looks pretty awesome if only they put that much effort into 40k, all we got was a brown satchel when Apoc came out.

One thing I don't really like is the bear model. I don't know why, but I just don't like it. It just looks a bit too cruel.

To be fair 40k gets most of the attention pretty much all the time except for Fantasy edition releases.

Wow, that's actually the first "Gamer's Edition" I could care less about. I'm not a fan of the bag and there's nothing that's unique or an early release in it like the last Fantasy one.

Nothing unique? What about the combat resolution plasti-gold counter thingy that I don't understand?

I like the magic cards, but everything else looks really stupid. The dice look really unbalanced but maybe they accounted for that.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Nothing unique? What about the combat resolution plasti-gold counter thingy that I don't understand?

Its basically just a calculator. You use it to keep tally of how many combat points each side has in a combat, instead of having to use fingers or dice. I think its a nice little tool actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2lGQfeEJT8

H.B.M.C. wrote:Nothing unique? What about the combat resolution plasti-gold counter thingy that I don't understand?

Which is available with the counter set separately, and doesn't have the silly "While Stocks Last" sticker, so not LE(which means I can get it later). I meant there's nothing unique to the set by itself aside from the bag, like the Red Templates and bone colored dice of 7th's set(and IT's Bag, which I still use).

There's a Youtube video on the new gaming aids, if you're wanting to see them "in situ".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2lGQfeEJT8

I kinda like the sling-pack thingy. It has a Civil War bedroll look to it.

ZF-

The whole "buckets of dice"/"Horde" thing sounds rather goofy.

Add in some "exploding 6's" and you've got Confragnarok all over again.

Still, I do love WFB, so I'll give it a whirl BUT I will definitely be Trying Before Buying at those rulebook prices!

Woah those tools are ALOT larger than I imagined! Especially that ruler, maybe worth getting?

Agamemnon2 wrote:There's a Youtube video on the new gaming aids, if you're wanting to see them "in situ".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2lGQfeEJT8

I wish they would've talked instead of played DRAMATIC FIGHTING MUSIC! Especially with the Combat Res Calculator to explain the images.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:

mikhaila wrote:

Voodoo Boyz wrote:The more I get "confirmed" about 8th, the more certain I am that I'm going to be giving up the game entirely.

You want me to put a book aside for you, or the spiffy gamers edition?

I'm sadly not kidding. I'm not buying a single thing for WHFB or 8th until I at least play some games. And I'll have to either proxy or borrow someone's stuff since even the Dwarf army I was building is basically obsolete and needs to be completely redone.

My DE, Demons, and Ogres are essentially unplayable. They're legal armies probably, but they're pretty much completely terrible for 8th in their current configurations.

Something similar happened in 40k when 5th came out, and I basically gave up. Now, I'm basically going back to playing more Warmachine.

Or you can grab Ed and the rest of the guys and come over for the next 'Late Night Friday', borrow a bunch of the ogres, dwarves, or demons from the case, and play a game using my store copy that I get today.) I'm in the same boat. I need to rework ogres a bit, although having 6k of them makes it not too tough, but may need more gnoblars. Go, go 100+ stubburn gnoblars on the flanks! Orcs I think I want to make my 8th edition army, and since it was my 2nd-4th edition army, it needs work. Throg I have no clue on, but I was running units of 10 trolls before, so he may be good.) And my dwarves are a loose collection of 2nd-3rd edition figures that need to go back for some training. Lots of models, who knows how they work.

Manfred von Drakken wrote:

sonofruss wrote:Man this edition will cost me more money for my dwarves more bodies and cannons more money for empire more cannons and orcs lots of bodies and rock lobbas.

Isn't that the whole bloody point?!

I don't want to buy a crap-ton more models. I just spent a ton of money to revamp my Warriors of Tzeentch army after it got nullified by the change from HoC to WoC. Now I'm looking at needing to do so AGAIN. Not to mention that my Empire army will probably need more artillery, and I don't know what for my Dark Elves, and the kebosh has probably been put into the fledgling VC army I was trying to build.

I'm going to give this a couple oif games to feel it out, but I'm not liking it. Random charge moves, looser movement, so many guys fighting, and fighting in Initiative order (loss of first strike for chargers) all seem to make for a less tactical, more random game - and I haven't even seen the new magic rules yet (still hoping that whole 2d6 PD business in utter nonsense). So far, this doesn't feel like a new edition, it feels like a new game, and not in a good way.

Amen. Sure, War of the Ring is a fun game, but it's not Warhammer, and I hate the "it works for this game so we'll just put it in all our games" mentality that GW seems to be suffering from. Just because 40k is a popular game doesn't mean that it's rules need to go over into Fantasy. Ditto with War of the Ring. I started playing in 4th edition, when it really was Herohammer, but even then movement was the key phase. The glory of Warhammer's previous incarnations, especially it's highpoint in 6th edition, was that you minimized the importance of dice rolls. Sure, they could still make or break a game, but a solid player was a solid player and 9 times out of 10 the better player would win. Now it seems like there's very little focus on generalship (i.e. knowing how far your troops can charge by eyeballing the table, guessing range for your war machines, etc...) and a great deal more focus on getting a good dice roll. This makes it easier for brand new players to win games, which will of course increase the number of 14-year-olds getting into the game, and the focus on ridiculoulsy large infantry units means that, finally, the person who spends the most money can really be the person who wins the most games.
So yeah, from what I've seen (of course I haven't playtested it yet) I very well may be pulling out the old brown 6th edition book and returning to what I consider the glory days of Warhammer.

I just did the math. Everything that comes with the Gamers Edition, except the bag, comes to $107.25 meaning the bag costs $16.50. I would just prefer to get the products individually, for about $30 more than the Gamer edition I can get the measuring tools and the the magic cards.

People whine the system needs revamping, the system gets revamped and the people whine. WHEN WILL IT END?!?!!?

The dividers seem like a nifty idea.

I demand that bear with the drums. DEMAND HIM!

EDIT: I'll remove the online bitch-fest I just typed up and wait.