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GoDz KI11JOY x wrote:

cheapbuster wrote:
Drop pod- cause there were to many parts inside it.

i didn't know you made a drop pod?

Yah i got one when i was gonna make an sm army its all painted at my house


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Claypool wrote: I must've glued the figure to my finger a hundred times.

That was like when i was doing my flamers and horrors

Swooping Hawks.

Record for the wings staying attached is a week. >_>

Four words:

Old Metal Killa Kan

EITHER:

Metal Bloodcrusher (PITA PITA PIIIIIITA!)

Lord of Change (Needs industrial strength glue to stay stood up)

Chaos sorcerer x_x

All the top heavy metal eldar models. Metal wraithlord, metal 3rd edition war walker, etc.

don't know if this was already listed but the old Daemon Prince was the biggest crap show in my book, nothing fits together and the whole thing is just too heavy.

my two cents.

Thabow wrote:don't know if this was already listed but the old Daemon Prince was the biggest crap show in my book, nothing fits together and the whole thing is just too heavy.

my two cents.

Any large metal model is going to be an enormous pain in the ass. They're heavy, they don't hold together well (even with lumps of epoxy, I've always had to use GS on the joints) and nothing fits together properly without a crapton of filing.

I put together the old metal Daemon Prince the other day for a buddy, and I'm suddenly very glad my own DP is going to be from the new plastic kit.

ChocolateGork wrote:Valkyrie as i needed about 4 hand to hold it together while it glued.

Rubber bands, my friend. Rubber bands. They have saved the sanity of many modellers for decades. As essential to the construction of the landspeeder, Land Raider, and Baneblade as they are to the Valkyrie.

Jaon wrote:Trying to put the model HBs on a valkyrie is insanely hard. You have to line up the ramp at the back, the 2 HB locators , the 2 outer walls and the roof at the same time. I needed to get my dad to help me. Hes a legend

You don't need to glue the roof on to get the HB doorguns attached. I assembled the gun swing arms as one set, then the top anchors to the inner walls as the next.
ONLY AFTER the glue was dry did I have a go at putting the guns into the mounts and attach the side walls to the floor.

The swing arms do benefit from pinning to the spindles though (as the weight of the heavy bolters can snap them off quite easily).

Once you learn how to hold your hands in a certain way, so that all of your digits are being used, it gets easier.

None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Krootox, there is no way to get the body to fit together an have the gunner on his feet... AAGGH!!! *tears hair out of scalp*

The older metal Venerable Dread. Where the two halves go together had HUGE gaps and after lots of work I still hate the dang thing (because of that hate he always fails, usually exploded in turn 1).

chromedog wrote:None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Well aren't you special.

So, what, those of us who genuinely have trouble with GW kits are unskilled? Inferior?

Hellcannon.

I would have to say Penitent Engine and Inquisitor Lord Karamazov on the Thronw of Judgement...

I tried to glue them all together one evening without pinning and no matter what glue i used the parts just wouldn't stick!
Next day i "borrowed" some industrial grade superglue from work and i ended up glueing my self to all four models and ruining a livingroom table... but in the end they held together.

fabbes wrote:I would have to say Penitent Engine and Inquisitor Lord Karamazov on the Thronw of Judgement...

I tried to glue them all together one evening without pinning and no matter what glue i used the parts just wouldn't stick!
Next day i "borrowed" some industrial grade superglue from work and i ended up glueing my self to all four models and ruining a livingroom table... but in the end they held together.

Dude.

Epoxy.

It's your best friend when you have unassembled metal minis.

And I'd half expect that superglue to wear off and start falling apart a month later. Some superglues don't, though. But those are rare.

Zoenthropes hands down, being so top heavy, with thin waist was easily one of the biggest hatred gathers in my nid force. Thankfully I had 3 before they became uber good.

The old Leman Russ kit was evil. After you attach the first wheel and track section to the body the other one is hellish. The problem was it always started bending inwards, and the lip for the body inside the wheel section was 3 mm thick, seriously I pulled out my calipers and checked. It took me an hour to get that thing to open up and go all the way around the lip, amazed I didn't lose any hair trying to get that thing in. Supposedly its fixed in the new kit but I have yet to purchase one.

Thunderfire cannon they cost to much they are built gak you need to reshape the gun and do a tone of greenstuff and then after all of that they are crap ingame to.

And the necron pylon I have 2 of them and holy gak thats all I have to say about them.

SaintHazard wrote:

fabbes wrote:I would have to say Penitent Engine and Inquisitor Lord Karamazov on the Thronw of Judgement...

I tried to glue them all together one evening without pinning and no matter what glue i used the parts just wouldn't stick!
Next day i "borrowed" some industrial grade superglue from work and i ended up glueing my self to all four models and ruining a livingroom table... but in the end they held together.

Dude.

Epoxy.

It's your best friend when you have unassembled metal minis.

And I'd half expect that superglue to wear off and start falling apart a month later. Some superglues don't, though. But those are rare.

This was when i just had started with the hobby and thought that the GW metal glue was the God of all glue
Tried a bunch of different glues from various stores but never epoxy.
But that stuff i "borrowed" from work was a killer... a friend of mine accidently knocked one of the Engines over the table egde and all that happened was it took a large chunk out of the wooden floor

Assembling all 60 of my lil bros orks. Hurts your neck after awhile. and my MOTF. Had to hold it in place with superglue for 5 mins (left indentions) then had to fill the little cracks between parts with little bit of cement glue.

SaintHazard wrote:

chromedog wrote:None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Well aren't you special.

So, what, those of us who genuinely have trouble with GW kits are unskilled? Inferior?

Unskilled does not equal inferior in my world. It just means you haven't learned the hows-to yet. With over 25 years in the hobby (modelmaking), I have learned a thing or three.
Try any 1/35 tank kit with independent wheels, suspension and track links. GW plastic kits don't rank in difficulty compared to those.

With a dremel and knowledge of what putties work well in which filling roles, and the right tools, even 'hard' kits become somewhat easier.

Stow your nerdrage elsewhere.

chromedog wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:

chromedog wrote:None of GW kits rank in my "most hated" list.

All barely rank above "beginner level" kits.

Well aren't you special.

So, what, those of us who genuinely have trouble with GW kits are unskilled? Inferior?

Unskilled does not equal inferior in my world. It just means you haven't learned the hows-to yet. With over 25 years in the hobby (modelmaking), I have learned a thing or three.
Try any 1/35 tank kit with independent wheels, suspension and track links. GW plastic kits don't rank in difficulty compared to those.

With a dremel and knowledge of what putties work well in which filling roles, and the right tools, even 'hard' kits become somewhat easier.

Stow your nerdrage elsewhere.

Nerdrage nothin'.

Please phrase your original post otherwise in the future. I misunderstood and interpreted it as haughty superiority, but that's not difficult to do, the way it's worded.

SaintHazard wrote:Granted it'll get them together (superglue is one of the few glues that will "bond" to metal), but expect them to fall apart within the month.

Do yourself a favor, go to your local craft/hobby store, and get a tube of two-part gel epoxy. It takes longer to set than super glue (so you'll need to pin it, set it up against something or hold it together manually for about five minutes) but that's the strongest bond you'll ever find, and now that it comes in gel form, it's no longer a huge mess to mix and apply. It will just about never fall apart, and the bond will be much stronger than superglue.

I use loctite control gel, and have no problem with permanent strong bonds. My metal models hardly "fall apart within a month". My Shokk Attack Gun had the bosspole bit break off - but the metal failed, above the join. The only thing I dislike about the loctite gel (besides the fairly high price to volume ratio) is the containers they come in - they tend to clog fairly easily, and they appear to be empty when they actually have lots of glue (50%) still in them. Pull out the bottom plastic plug with pliers and see! You can remove the whole bottom plastic assembly if you have one that appears "empty", and use the rest that way.

I agree that using 2 part epoxy is definitely a must have for any very large metal model, but for the smaller ones (terminator size and smaller) it doesn't seem worth the hassle.


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But on-topic again - my most difficult model was probably the Thunderfire Cannon. I finally gave in and used the dremel tool to grind down the collet, and even then it took about 20 minutes of grinding at slow speed. It didn't help that the enormous amount of filing required repeatably caused me to fail my Gets Hot! rolls. It's a real shame because I love that model maybe about all others. Should really be released in plastic.

I have never really had a problem with Wraiths as others have with proper pinning.

I greatly dislike painting drop pods and won't do another if possible. Too much stuff going on and it's pretty hard in my experience to get all the doors to easily close and easily open all at once.

Nobz in Mega Armour. I really didn't expect much when buying six of those. Thought of the usual problems that would require me to pin and super-glue the whole thing.
But when they arrived, there were, unlike GW's bright happy pictures have promised, no visual hydraulics on the models. I lost many blades of my hobby knife and utterly destroyed
some other knives during the dozens of hours lasting Odyssey to carve away metal in order to free my Nobz.

ZAGSTRUCK his leg keeps making sure his body cant fit

By far was my khemri bloodbowl team, putting together those players pushed me to breaking point on many occasions.

Needless to say that whenever I picked one up my wife would leave the room

Any IG tank, just for the damned track assembly and the fact that every time I tried to glue something on one of the tracks would fall off.

I have to say the stompa, Not that it is hard to put together, But it just seems poorly designed, There are gaps that have nothing to do with it being Ork but just bad fitting.

My next would be the metal Lictor, the back mounted arms keep breaking even with pinning, greenstuff, epoxy, blood, nasty words, evil eye.....

Galrauch, The Chaos Dragon- Never hated a model worse, Though skorne titans may be close

Forge world's Elysians. nothing fits quite right and they are super ingratiating to piece together. Although they do look ace when done.