Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

MANLY TEARS OF JOY! Can I just embed every single "DO WANT!" pic I find without getting banned for flooding or spaming? LOL

DO! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT!

I think my bank balanc just whinced i can't wait

So do I get the official announcement right:
Andy who works at the GW studio in Nottingham has found out about the upcoming Dark Eldar release by looking at the early WD October copy?

Anyway, here the 2 weeks old rumour summary I did:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/314450.page

Another tidbit: 2 metal boxes are likely to be Incubi and Mandrakes who will be all metal units.

And ED-209b over at Warseer noticed the unreleased mini-paint station behind the WD.

Gaz Taylor wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
Then ignore them.
The battleforces are always within 1st wave of releases, at least when we're talking about armies where a large amount of the range has been redone. There's not been any point where they've not done that, and I'd be completely surprised if they missed the opportunity here.

Daemons didn't and still haven't got a battleforce. But otherwise you are right

I would be very surprised if there isn't some kind of set, most likely involving a Raider, Wych set and warrior set

And the Daemons likely won't, just like there currently isn't a Dark Angels battleforce(before you say anything: Yes. I know there was one, but it was pulled when the Space Marine Battleforce was redone when the Codex was redone), Black Templars Battleforce, Grey Knights Battleforce, or a Blood Angels Battleforce, etc.

Daemons, upon their initial release, had all of what? Three plastic kits? Maybe four? Of those, they were two radically opposed Gods(Slaanesh and Khorne don't play nice, especially in 40k)
There's also the issue of Daemons being cross-system and it being hard to come up with a "good" set of contents that would please players of both systems.

Like Brass Scorpion said, it's a marketing logic reason for the most part though.

It's a testament to how abused GW's customers feel that in this thread so many have noted "but there was nothing about a new codex . . ."

BrassScorpion wrote: to Dark Eldar, the actual topic of this thread if I recall.

Yeah, I appreciate we still aren't exactly overburdened with DE intell, but let's please not turn this into an argument over what an entirely separate release quite some time ago got. Ta.

AFAIK there is no battleforce, at least in the initial wave of releases, that said I wouldn't be too surprised if they, and perhaps some of the other forces, got xmas army deals/similar.

And it only took them 12 years. In related news, GW to re-release Zoats and Squats in 2012.

Kanluwen wrote:And the Daemons likely won't, just like there currently isn't a Dark Angels battleforce(before you say anything: Yes. I know there was one, but it was pulled when the Space Marine Battleforce was redone when the Codex was redone), Black Templars Battleforce, Grey Knights Battleforce, or a Blood Angels Battleforce, etc.

Well, there was actually a Black Templar battleforce, I myself own it. But it was pretty boring (or lame). It was something like 15 standard marines, a command squad and a rhino, and not enough BT bits sprues.

reds8n wrote:got xmas army delas/similar.

Would be awesome. Those deals are very, very tempting. I still have a huge mess'o'tau (totally untouched) from the Armageddon deals a few years back. What was I thinking? Too much eggnog . . .

Erasoketa wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:And the Daemons likely won't, just like there currently isn't a Dark Angels battleforce(before you say anything: Yes. I know there was one, but it was pulled when the Space Marine Battleforce was redone when the Codex was redone), Black Templars Battleforce, Grey Knights Battleforce, or a Blood Angels Battleforce, etc.

Well, there was actualy a Black Templar battleforce, I myself own it. But it was pretty boring (or lame). It was something like 15 standard marines, a command squad and a rhino, and not enough BT bits sprues.

Key word in my post is "currently".

@Red:
I'm leaning towards the battleforce either retaining the same product code as the current one(which does occasionally happen, and throws everything out of whack. If you have the product code, you can actually still find the old Empire Battalion that has the Great Cannon, Outriders, etc on the GW website as an example) or being released around Christmas time(which is not the "November" release they're supposedly aiming for on the rest of it).

Gaz Taylor wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
Then ignore them.
The battleforces are always within 1st wave of releases, at least when we're talking about armies where a large amount of the range has been redone. There's not been any point where they've not done that, and I'd be completely surprised if they missed the opportunity here.

Daemons didn't and still haven't got a battleforce. But otherwise you are right

I would be very surprised if there isn't some kind of set, most likely involving a Raider, Wych set and warrior set

Whoah! A bit generous arent you?

You know you're not going to get more than three warriors for $90 right? Its a savings of -7%!

...they keep toying with us by using that same artwork...

either way, I'm going to be glued to my monitor Sept 26th!

Just out of wild curiosity, what would you call the Ravenwing battleforce?

evilsponge wrote:

reds8n wrote:

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

Why would GW shoop a photo for a fake DE announcement? Even GW isn't that mean.

Kanluwen wrote:

Erasoketa wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:And the Daemons likely won't, just like there currently isn't a Dark Angels battleforce(before you say anything: Yes. I know there was one, but it was pulled when the Space Marine Battleforce was redone when the Codex was redone), Black Templars Battleforce, Grey Knights Battleforce, or a Blood Angels Battleforce, etc.

Well, there was actualy a Black Templar battleforce, I myself own it. But it was pretty boring (or lame). It was something like 15 standard marines, a command squad and a rhino, and not enough BT bits sprues.

Key word in my post is "currently".

My bad, I misread it. I thought you were putting BT in the GK and BA "team". IIRC any of this two armies got ever a battleforce, unlike DA and BT.

But... whatever, I don't care about battleforces. I'm gonna have a new codex!!!! FINALLY!

Fiend wrote:Why would GW shoop a photo for a fake DE announcement? Even GW isn't that mean.

He is just kidding, posting like using this kind of pic for fakes: http://images.google.es/images?hl=es&source=imghp&biw=1366&bih=575&q=this+looks+shopped&gbv=2&aq=3&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=this+loo&gs_rfai=

I'm gonna have a new codex!!!! FINALLY!

Just a reminder, that's not always a great thing. If it turns out like the last few Codex books, great! If it's more like Dark Angels or even Chaos Marines, well, let's call that mixed results.

Hah. I'm feeling fairly chuffed with myself now.

Back in September last year at Games Day UK, I had a chat with Phil Kelly

Compel wrote:


Another wee tidbit from him. "I only tend to work on one army book and one codex a year." Also, Robin Cruddace added that "the development for the Imperial Guard codex lasted a year."


Now, some good news, ish from Phil.

Phil Kelly would really, really love to write the Dark Eldar codex. He said that the work he was most proud of was the Eldar codex and he feels that him writing the Dark Eldar one, I can't think of the exact words he said but it was along the lines of, "it would be a great extension and conclusion of it." I can't understate the feeling I got from him about this, it's like he feels he was meant to write the Dark Eldar codex. Almost as if the Eldar one is an unfinished tale without their dark reflection being done justice. So, the good news is. Dark Eldar players really do have someone batting for them in the studio and quite heavily too. Secondly, from what Robin Cruddace was suggesting, if you want GW to hear your opinions, don't whine on internet forums or write emails. Games Workshop pays attention to actual physical letters sent to them via the postie. If you want to be heard, that's how you do it.

And, the bad news. From Phil Kelly's talk, the Dark Eldar codex is not written yet.

So, that was me pretty much right I think. It'd also strongly suggest that Phil Kelly wrote the codex.

BrassScorpion wrote:

I'm gonna have a new codex!!!! FINALLY!

Just a reminder, that's not always a great thing. If it turns out like the last few Codex books, great! If it's more like Dark Angels or even Chaos Marines, well, let's call that mixed results.

Oh well, I keep it mind. I'm in a point where I don't care if the new codex is too "killer" or too "sloppy". The previous one wasn't exactly the best codex ever published. Maybe GW thinks it was and that's why they needed so many time to develope a new one xDDD but I didn't.

A new codex means new fluff, new pics, possibily new gamestile. It's going to be refreshing for me anyways.

Wow, it's been a long time waiting for this one. When the last codex was released, Jar Jar Binks had yet to be inflicted on the world, 9/11 was still at the brain storming stage and David Beckham wasn't even on Tom Cruise's radar, letalone in his rollerdex.

Hmm... makes you wonder what disasters the release of DE v2.0 is an omen for

Surtur wrote:Just out of wild curiosity, what would you call the Ravenwing battleforce?

A Ravenwing Battleforce?

It's not "Dark Angels". It's not "Deathwing". It's "Ravenwing". There's more to the DA 'dex than just Ravenwing.

That's like if they were to release a White Scars battleforce, you wouldn't call it the Space Marines Battleforce now would you?

BrassScorpion wrote:Just a reminder, that's not always a great thing. If it turns out like the last few Codex books, great! If it's more like Dark Angels or even Chaos Marines, well, let's call that mixed results.

One can only hope that they don't get a Dark Angels quality codex, where the sublists are better than the standard list by miles.

Oh, and then six months later, Codex: Eldar comes out with the same options but better

You know what I find funny. I remember reading in one of the many Dark Eldar threads someone saying they won't believe they are coming until they see it on the back page of White Dwarf. Then we get that as official announcement. Someone in GW reading thread with sense of humour?

Wahey! Operation Wallet Drainer, Go Go Go!

Depending on how good the codex is, I think that I might have a use for it. Right now I'm using the Blood Angels codex for my marines (started out as Ultras and then moved to Wolves and then to BA), but I think that the Dark Eldar fluff would be closer to what I envision my marines as (my chapter is called the Shadow marines btw), so I'll just use my current models as stand-ins. Most of my troops are not magnetized though, so what I do for weapon coherency when using a new codex is paint a dab of colour on the bases. That way I don't need to touch the models in any way. Like a green dab is a lascannon, but in this case it'll be something like a dark gun or whatever the dark eldar use. So anyway, I'm really looking forward to them because at last my space marines will play like I've wanted them to! I'm also really stoked about the upcoming grey knights, I love having options

Peace

Great news! Not a DE player myself, but as a Necron player this gives me hope. I'll be buying this codex just to help Xenos sales

Hmmm...Ill be watching this.

Doubt Ill build a whole army but DE have always provided good bits for chaos conversions.

Mad4Minis wrote:Hmmm...Ill be watching this.

Doubt Ill build a whole army but DE have always provided good bits for chaos conversions.

Funny you should say that. I remember seeing some Dark Angels with Dire Avenger Heads. I wonder if the same could be done by combining Chaos Space Marines with Dark Eldar Heads. Somebody needs to investigate that, it could turn out fantastic!

I'll be investing in around 1,000 Points to begin with. Then I'll expand when my Wallet has recovered slightly.

Alpharius wrote:Given how the date was picked rather arbitrarily, and given J.H.D.D.'s conviction that they'd NEVER be out, he should really allow the +/- one month(ish) and just accept the LOSS like a man!!!

If we go back a couple years to when the wager was made, that might be helpful in understanding things:

On 10/11/2008, Yakface threw down the gauntlet declaring that DE would be released "in the next two years" and "Phil Kelly is writing the codex and Jes Goodwin is sculpting an entirely new line of models. Both have confirmed this fact at the last LAGD. "
- Yakface set the date, not I.

On 10/11/2008, I accepted the challenge, with clarification of the terms for winning and losing.
- Yakface wins if a Phil Kelly DE Codex appears with Jes minis by 10/10/10
- I win if nothing before 10/10/10
- otherwise it's a push

On 10/14/2008, Yakface accepted, and the wager was on.

As you can see from the message trail, the actual dates were never within my control, although I did offer to test Yakface's conviction by asking if he wanted to start his clock with GD Spain (2/18/2008). Realistically, I expected him to win within the first 3-6 months. The fact that it looks to go the full duration is interesting, given how hot the DE rumors over the year were leading up to the wager.


BTW, I have *huge* respect for Yakface for having the stones to throw down the gauntlet. Nobody else had the stones to do it at the time. And nobody else was willing to pick it up...

Anyhow, Alphy, now that we're at the point of finally seeing the wager complete, it's amusing that you're so eager to want to change the conditions that were laid down two years ago, as I don't recall *you* stepping up and getting another naysayer on the hook.


Finally, it's not 10/10/10 yet. We still have nearly a month to go before the wager formally closes. See you in about a month.

I'm still not convinced.


Heavily implied sarcasm.

DE have always provided good bits for chaos conversions.

They really have. I used a lot of left over spikey bits from my Dark Eldar army on Chaos conversions years ago. I still have my original Dark Eldar army that I built and painted in 1998-1999 and something tells me that if the new models look great I'll be adding at least a few for the hobby fun of it.

Sheesh J.H.D.D., I was kidding!

Sensitive much?