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OK, I have gotten some more stuff done on this, and I think this post is probably going to stand as a great example of why I can't ever get anything done in a timely fashion. project drift.

Rhino

I started a Rhino. Turns out that if you glue all the hatches closed, and don't fill it with LED's or tiny print or a billion purity seals, you can grind out a nearly finished rhino in like, 3 hours. Here's what I got so far before my ADD compelled me to look, that dog has a fluffy tail!



I'm planning on having that demon head thing be an automated gunner, as it's simply inefficient to have a marine drive AND gunning. I can't imagine my Iron Marauders, champion of efficiency, wouldn't improve on that paradigm.

Also, it's .75 less of a marine to paint.

After trying my hand at sculpting a cog for the logo, and failing abysmally, I just ordered some cogs of Amazon. They were like 2 for 75 cents, without shipping. I'm going to use these as a base and then add more sculpting to flesh it out, and then cast it to make door logos. Here are some pics of size references. Also, I've painted some dip onto the rhino to dirty it up some.



Cog logo

Maybe something like this?



Defiler

I primed the defiler, and fiddled with it some. I hated how the autocannon and power spaghetti noodles flail must be glued in place, so I made it so the mounts rotate\magnetized, respectively.



Needed a spindle for the autocannons.





The other side was much simpler. The magnet might require an upgrade (which I spell thusly, u-p-g-r-a-y-y-e-d) to a large one, depending on how the DCCW winds up. We'll see.

Dreadnought

Obviously, my guys need a dreadnought. The metal chunk of fail that is the current dread is out, obviously. I looked into getting an Iron Warriors dreadnought from Forgeworld, but a quick look at a calculator indicated I can't afford to spend that much on such an underwhelming model. Well, let me clarify; it's not a bad model, it's just not worth as much as they want. I instead ordered a venerable dread and will convert it. Was like $30 delivered, to boot!



Here's the close combat weapon:



The blades are made from Ork choppas, and shaved down some. The rest is obviously styrene. I'm considering just scratchbuilding the whole arm, as it looks kinda too big maybe. It's true that the current Chaos Dread already has a high-five hand that's about as large, but is the current model really what I'm going to go with as a target? I can do substantially better, I think\hope.

Army's coming along nicely, a thing that's been bothering me thought, it your heavy bolter. You should consider removing the muzzle on it and have just the daemon head, it looks kinda weird as it is.
I'm liking the mark idea for the warband, cogs always look awesome in warhammer 40k

Lastly, abit about tactics, it's a bad idea to take meltas and plasmas in the same squad, mainly cause you can't use em both and then assualt. Most chaos players usually take 2x assualt or 2x rapid fire weapons in a squad. I would advice against heavy weapons in a normal CSM squad too, seeing how they'll stop a unit of 10+ models just to fire. Only time I'd have heavy wepons in a regular marines squad is if I had a plasma in the same squad, and I knew they would sit on a objective. Still, you should consider making a havoc squad with your heavy weapons, 1: cause they're awesome 2; cause they're fluffy for IW

Limbo wrote:Army's coming along nicely, a thing that's been bothering me thought, it your heavy bolter. You should consider removing the muzzle on it and have just the daemon head, it looks kinda weird as it is.
I'm liking the mark idea for the warband, cogs always look awesome in warhammer 40k

Lastly, abit about tactics, it's a bad idea to take meltas and plasmas in the same squad, mainly cause you can't use em both and then assualt. Most chaos players usually take 2x assualt or 2x rapid fire weapons in a squad. I would advice against heavy weapons in a normal CSM squad too, seeing how they'll stop a unit of 10+ models just to fire. Only time I'd have heavy wepons in a regular marines squad is if I had a plasma in the same squad, and I knew they would sit on a objective. Still, you should consider making a havoc squad with your heavy weapons, 1: cause they're awesome 2; cause they're fluffy for IW

I might try that bit with the bolter. The stripes came out rather poor on it so I've been thinking about redoing it anyway.

Thanks for the tactical advice: I've never played once with CSM so have no idea about tactics for them. I haven't even read anything yet really. I have Devastators for loyalists, but they are super overpriced; is that not the case for CSM? Can't check codex now, at work.

I wouldn't paint my havocs differently, so I can always just rotate in more melta\bolter marines and then those heavy weapons guys can be the havocs.

Love your stuff, it's truly inspiring! Due to their rather monotonous paint scheme IW-armies can sometimes look somewhat boring, but your stuff is FAR from boring!! Cool details where they count, without overdoing it or making it too simple! Great modeling and painting!

OK, here is an update. Statistically speaking, looks it I'm about a month in between units and hence updates. Told you guys it would be slow!

I've gotten done 5x terminators and a Terminators Lord. I'm pretty pleased with them all around, generally speaking. Here is a picture dump:

Group shot


Group shot, with magnetized weapons:



I kept the weapons magnetized so I can swap around between them, and the Terminator Lord. The Lord can swap between a pair of lightning claws, or a bolter + powerfist, or a combi-melta, or whatever such combinations. Same for some of the terminators, though I don't have enough bits to have spares for all of them.

Here are the individual terminators.

One:



Two:



Three:



Four:



Five:



And, my WIP Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor:



I still haven't finished the touchups and some of the bling for the chaos lord (like his cloak, which is drying as we speak) but he's good enough to put on the tabletop, so here we are.

My next project will be finishing up the pair of rhinos. I haven't made much headway on that as they really need an icon to go forward, but I think the one I have now is almost ready. Still pending: Defiler, Daemon Prince, Dreadnought, PA Chaos lord, and possibly\likely a Land Raider.

Wow, someone finaly found a way to make iron warriors look good, the hazard stripes are great aswell, much better than some of the other attempts out there.

Absolutely awesome IW's, the brassy gold really works well. Grats!

It is, in fact, vallejo brass mixed with shining gold, highlighted with more shining gold. I washed it with brown ink but ehhh I'm still not so hot with gold yet.

Your Iron War... Marauders are definitely great...

I do have a minor concern about the Lord w/ L.Claws though. I don't know for sure what's troubling me, maybe the fact it looks too... simple?
That's bothering me indeed, for I had intended to build a similar Lord (Terminator + Claws), but I feel like he's missing something... Maybe with the cloak, it'd look better?

Looks great! I don't know if you've done anything else on the Dred's hand, but I think it'll look a lot more balanced if you extend the thumb as well


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Oh, also, I might go over the yellow stripes a couple more times to make them a little brighter?

Ouze wrote:OK, I finally peeled myself away from my other projects to get some work done on this.



I got all 20 of the backpacks and alternate pads done. I have the maxmini steam knight heads, and have primed and basecoated them. Still need brass highlights and touchups.

Still to do: the hazard striped pads that need redone.

Models left: Defiler, 2x Rhinos, 5x Terminators, 1x Terminator Lord, 1x PA Lord, 1x Daemon Price... and maybe a land raider. I'm just hoping to get these guys done before my chibihawk arrives, which will immediately steal away all of my attention for at least a month, I suspect.

Love the use of the thumbtacks as head holders. Great idea. Also, the shoulder pads look amazing. What colors did you use for them?

I really like these guys. Good work.

I'm liking your work here Nice conversion work and painting. I like the dread claw, and also the cogs. Keep it up!

Awesome work!! The dusty looking hazardsstripes look great, and I love how you painted the gold!
I agree with Yggdrasil about the lord thought, he's abit plain. I think he'd look much better with the cloak

Very nice start. I like how you have done dusty hazard stripes, as I don't like bright clean ones that too many people seem to do. Are you going to stick lots of Obliterators in since they are all machine like?

Malganess wrote:Love the use of the thumbtacks as head holders. Great idea. Also, the shoulder pads look amazing. What colors did you use for them?

Actually, in addition to the regular thumbtacks, some of them have rare earth magnets glue to the ends. There is a big metal strip near my desk at work, so for weird shaped pieces I can stick in a thumbtack and then stick them on the strip to dry without them falling over\getting knocked over.

Killmaimburnkillmaimburn wrote:Very nice start. I like how you have done dusty hazard stripes, as I don't like bright clean ones that too many people seem to do. Are you going to stick lots of Obliterators in since they are all machine like?

I did originally leave them in very bright yellow, but they looked too off too me. I decided to wash them with devlan mud to make them look more faded and muted, and was happier with the result.

So far as Obliterators go, not sure where I'm going with that. I certainly like the idea of Obliterators, and they unquestionably fit into my own theme, but I also find them to be some of the ugliest models GWS has in production now. If I do them, I'm going to have to convert something. Before that, though, I'm thinking Bloodletters converted with wings to be Furies: my guys are all about Chaos Undivided, so they'd worship Furies as holy, I think.

Ok, I got updates... and one of them is, imo, what the kids call epic win.

First, here is the terminator lord with his bling. That cape makes a big difference. Side note, that's the best job I've ever done on a cloak, ever - usually my flowing cloth is, well, terrible. This one is rather "acceptable" I think.





For the wolf fur part, I think I was supposed to dry brush it? I probably should have done that first. Anyway, by the time I got up to that I had already done the cloak, and it was already looking pretty good, so I would up picking out each tuft with a reaper eye brush... twice. First a overall job of scorched leather, then the aforementioned tuft-picking with codex grey, then again tuft picking with fortress grey. Not sure if I have the names of those last 2 right, as I get them confused, but the dark grey and then the tips were done in the lighter one.

Ok, so back to that winnage I had mentioned earlier. I really wanted to scratchbuild legs for my dreadnought that were like the ones in War of the Worlds.... I like the idea of tripod legs. Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out how to go about that in a way that I liked, so I decided to do the below instead. I actually really like how it worked out. The treads are from Curtis' Ramshackle games, and the rest is just the original venerable dreanought legs, chopped up a little. The rod is 1/8th.






I still need to clean up the treads a little, but my dremel tool battery died mid-job, so here's what I got so far. They're just blu-tacked on but I think you get the idea. Johny Five alive!

I really do like the idea of having a walker on tracks.

But, IMHO I think the frond end of the tracks need a little something, but I cannot put my finger on it, since the area in the front end of the tracks is mostly empty space.

WOW nice dread!

btemple0 wrote:I really do like the idea of having a walker on tracks.

But, IMHO I think the frond end of the tracks need a little something, but I cannot put my finger on it, since the area in the front end of the tracks is mostly empty space.

Yeah, it's not finished, but I have to go work. I'm going to put an armor plate or something there.

I like the tracks alot, maybe you could mount a flamer in the front.

OK, some more progress. Between school¹ and work², I've been pretty busy, but I did find some time today to whip this up.

The treads work, but they're not, you know, boss. I had really wanted a tripod walker like in War of the Worlds. So, I got some sculpey, some sandpaper, some procreate, and some styrene, and here's what I got.




and in a mold box:



Hoping the mold works out. I'm using Smooth-On Oomoo of dubious quality. It's very, very thick to begin with (you know the site says it's "low viscosity? hah!) and it's kinda old, so one of the parts has a thick pink skin on it. I tried adding some silicon rubber thinner made by a better company, and hope that works. I normally use Tap's platinum cure super low viscosity, which is, imo, the best silicon mold making stuff on the market, but I'm kinda low on both that and money, and I got lots of those Oomoo, and the parts aren't very fine anyway, so it should be ok, I hope. We'll know tommorow.


¹ Dragon Age 2
² Dragon Age 2

Looking really good! You have done a great job painting your Lord and the dreadnought looks really cool and Iron Warriors like.

Love the dreadnought, makes me think of quake II (thinking of the tank boss)! Would be cool to make a defiler with the same concept (in a far future when I have the time and money to build a IW army my defiler will have tracks )!

Came a little further with the legs. As it turns out, 3 segments is just too large for a dreadnought. If I were building a scratch defiler or some such it would work, but I wound up trimming them down to just 2 legs segments. I'm a little closer to my original concept, now, although I originally intended for them to be a little spindly with armor plates over them. Still, not too shabby. Still need to fill some pits and file them down but this is a decent approximation of what I had intended.



I need to shorten the wasit joint. I have a 1/8" rod running from the torso to the leg assembly, and that 1/4" tube is covering it. I have sort of a nut made of glue on the underside, and then carefully lifted it so it can torso-twist (something I never quite mastered in Mechwarrior!) I also did some work chao-sifying it up some more. I'm pretty happy with it now and think it's nearly ready to prime. I do want to add some spikes to it, but I want them to look like they belong, and not just randomly glued on as many chaos conversions do. Maybe I don't need the spikes at all, it hardly screams loyalist as is.

I really do like the treads, though. Since I'm sure I'll have another dreadnought (I like dreadnoughts) will save those for the next one.

Looks great, I like the whole tripod-idea (being a fan of half-life 2)! But I sure hope you save those treads for another dread 'cause they are just awesome!

Switching gears for a sec, here is the WIP so far on my defiler. I've got the bottom half done.



This is what I've been working on, in a really halfass way, while thinking about what I want to do with the dreadnought. I haven't primed the dreadnought because I'm not 100% sure where I'm going with it, though I'm leaning pretty strongly towards the legs.

The defiler is coming along not too badly. I refuse to work on it at home, and so it's a slow one, done only in my downtime at work. I'm probably going to abandon that principle this weekend, as I think I'm going to LED up the innards of this guy. I like the idea of a red glowing face behind the helmet, though I think thats the only LED I'm going to employ on this model.

Defilers looking great, and I think glowing red eyes would be a great idea! Is that the final look on the bottom? Wondering since it maybe alittle to much gold, althought I can't really say until the top half is on

Limbo wrote:Defilers looking great, and I think glowing red eyes would be a great idea! Is that the final look on the bottom? Wondering since it maybe alittle to much gold, althought I can't really say until the top half is on

I haven't painted the hoses and minor stuff like that, but it's a more or less final look, less. I agree it has a lot of brass on it, but my theme for my guys is dirty metal (boltgun) trimmed in brass (Vallejo brass for everything, 50/50 vallejo brass and gold for elites, gold for HQ). I'm disinclined to change my theme for this one model, as the trim is pretty distinctly demarcated on every piece of the armor. I think it's less that this model has a lot of brass, and more that defilers in general have a lot of trim, period.

On the defiler subject, I got some more done on that. I decided to go with an orange LED because I didn't have a bright enough red one or the patience to wait for one to be delivered it looked better. I went with one larger LED rather then specific eyes since I don't want to get into soldering SMD's.


Here is the mask off, and the light off. I put a "cover" over the sides of the LED made from a 1/8th styrene tube, and used a dremel to flatten the front of the LED, which had the side effect of making it look like a Geth.


Light on. Still a lot of bleed, hope to fix it with paint.


Here is the on-off switch (the bit with the notch in it). It fit very nicely there, imo.


Here is the wiring. The 2 shiny spots are magnets, which keep the back cover in place. I used a normal batter mount with the sides cut off so it would fit better. Normally I just put the battery loose in whatever cavity I can, but in this case, it fit in that spot so nearly when mounted upside down (that's what she said) I glued it in. I'll probably wrap the battery in painter tape to get some short insurance, though it really does fit like it was meant to go there.


And, with the light on, unpainted mask on. Brightness is just about right - not too dull, not overpowering.

No painting done tonight. Most distastefully, work is actually busy - the nerve.

Awesome stuff here! I hope you dont mind if i steal some of your Dreadnought ideas at some point .

Fans of your Iron Warriors +1