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Not sure if this counts in this category but it holds a special place in my heart because it holds my all-time favorite Harrison Ford one-liner "GET OFF MY PLANE!" Lol I like it mostly because Mike Nelson likes to riff on that line a lot in rifftrax.
Air force One was a great movie!
Anyway a ok movie is Stargate. Sorry but it was ok.
Godzilla- newer version, ok it sucked I lied. >.>
<.<
Anyway an ok movie was the Untouchables, the one dealing with Capone. Sean Connery pulled it out of the gutter in my mind.
Another one is Indiana jones and the crystal skulls, for what it is worth it was ok, but not in the least bit good.
Ultramarines movie, yeah it was fine, but i wish GW put more money into it.
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It may have been a historical event but miller wasn't interested in telling it as a historical event. He was telling it as myth as passed down by Spartan storytellers. Myth doesn't mean Zeus or Hercules, it just means sacred story. The battle as told by the Spartans is more myth than historical fact.
It is the difference between the actual history of, say, WWII, and how it is passed down. Real history includes the East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere, American Oil embargo, ect. The myth is the that Japanese just invaded out of no where and that America won the war, as told from the American perspective.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Just because it wasn't portrayed completely truthfully doesn't mean it wasn't based off an historical event, which is what he was saying.
Despite the fact that it may (and likely was) beefed up a bit by storytellers, the fact of the matter is that at the core of it all is an actual event that took place.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Ahtman wrote:It may have been a historical event but miller wasn't interested in telling it as a historical event. He was telling it as myth as passed down by Spartan storytellers. Myth doesn't mean Zeus or Hercules, it just means sacred story. The battle as told by the Spartans is more myth than historical fact.
It is the difference between the actual history of, say, WWII, and how it is passed down. Real history includes the East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere, American Oil embargo, ect. The myth is the that Japanese just invaded out of no where and that America won the war, as told from the American perspective.
Yeah, no.
Your second statement is irrelevant. Miller's 300 is a heavily stylized portrayal of a historical event. Ignoring every little detail of the WW2 is just par for the course in school history books. There's a difference between altering the historical image and skipping over what are considered to be less important details.
It's incredibly difficult to think of movies that are mediocre, as they have no reason to really stick in your mind like a great or an awful movie does.
The Island, Hannibal, Diary of the Dead, Minority Report, Push, and Pineapple Express are all movies that I've watched recently that I would consider to be simply good, not great.
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Ah, glad this thread is still around. I now nominate, 'Men who stare at goats'
It was supposed to be a comedy...it failed at that for me but was an okay movie. I wouldn't watch it again, but I don't hate it for taking two hours of my life!
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Ahtman wrote:It may have been a historical event but miller wasn't interested in telling it as a historical event. He was telling it as myth as passed down by Spartan storytellers. Myth doesn't mean Zeus or Hercules, it just means sacred story. The battle as told by the Spartans is more myth than historical fact.
It is the difference between the actual history of, say, WWII, and how it is passed down. Real history includes the East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere, American Oil embargo, ect. The myth is the that Japanese just invaded out of no where and that America won the war, as told from the American perspective.
Yeah, no.
Your second statement is irrelevant. Miller's 300 is a heavily stylized portrayal of a historical event. Ignoring every little detail of the WW2 is just par for the course in school history books. There's a difference between altering the historical image and skipping over what are considered to be less important details.
If you consider how much weight I put on your thoughts/opinions, on really just about anything, it won't be a surprise that just because you disagree doesn't mean that I am wrong.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Amaya wrote:I'm not the guy who came in and said that the Battle of Thermopylae never happened.
He never said it didn't happen, although he contradicted himself by saying:
It isn't really based on history either, it is based on Spartan mythology.
and then
It may have been a historical event...Myth doesn't mean Zeus or Hercules, it just means sacred story.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
–noun
1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
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Amaya wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
Amaya wrote:Well, it wasn't 300 against 1 million. It was more like 5,000 - 10,000 Greeks against a Persion force of 100,000.
The exact numbers don't matter. The Greeks were outnumbered, but they made an impressive stand.
it was 500,000 persians dude. XD
Anyway 300.
Accounts range from 70,000 to 2.6 million Persians.
I serously doubt that at anyone circa 500 BC was capable of raising and supporting an army that large. 100,000-200,000 is believable.
Modern scholars tend to throw out numbers around 100,000-300,000. However given that the Greek army (including non-spartan states) numbered roughly 10,000 and the last stand had just more than 1000 the battle is still an amazing example of battling against the odds.
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Amaya wrote:I'm not the guy who came in and said that the Battle of Thermopylae never happened.
He never said it didn't happen, although he contradicted himself by saying:
It isn't really based on history either, it is based on Spartan mythology.
and then
It may have been a historical event...Myth doesn't mean Zeus or Hercules, it just means sacred story.
More muddled than contradictory. Just because a story uses a historical period or moment as a framework for the plot doesn't necessarily make it a historical movie. The Battle of Thermopylae is just an excuse to put some badassery on screen and makes zero pretense of following reality. A historical film would be concerned with the details of history. Das Boot is a good counterpoint. Unlike 300 which has a few real names, it is truly fictional, but the difference is that Das Boot is trying to show what life was like for those men at that time and in that place. Das Boot is much more of a historical film, even if the individual people aren't real. Then there is something like Gettysburg which is trying to be historically accurate in most respects.
Amaya wrote:myth /mɪθ/ Show Spelled
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–noun
1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
This seems to underscore more premise more than back yours up.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
The Kilted Samurai wrote:There's a few on my list that people will probably hate me for but here it goes:
"Shutter Island"
I'm not sure what people hated so much about it. I thought it was pretty good, not amazing if anything. It was twisty enough to keep me interested and the acting was great as well.
"Star Wars Episode I" (Read statement before taring and feathering me lol)
I'm not actually a huge fan of this movie but I definitely liked it more than the other prequels. To me the Star Wars prequels really fell a part when Hayden Christen stepped onto the screen. Episode I, if you take out Jar Jar and the little kid is actually not a terrible movie, it's not good either but It's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It's holds up a hell of a lot better than the last two movies and the acting is much better (in the sense though that it's like the thinnest kid in fat camp lol). Episode II and III are definitely the worst in my opinion.
They got extra points in episode 1 for haveing a puppet yoda IMO.
Don't know if anyone has mentioned "Starship Troopers" yet.
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namegoeshere wrote:8mm is actually a really good movie, that everyone disliked because of seven coming out just before.
Any movie with talking animals in I like. Not animated or cgi or weird moving mouths though.
Brother got bad reviews but I like it.
chowderhead13 wrote:Don't mess with the Zohan. It works because it insults everyone equally.
You'll have to explain that to me.
Amaya wrote:
Wraithlordmechanic wrote:
The Kilted Samurai wrote:There's a few on my list that people will probably hate me for but here it goes:
"Shutter Island"
I'm not sure what people hated so much about it.
Shutter Island is a bad movie because it is pointless.
Spoiler:
The movies' big reveal is that the main character is crazy and the investigative mystery side of the movie which attracted audiences is a ruse to tell you about the crazy guy.
I remember thinking: "Oh so the point of this movie is to show you how this guy gets better". Cue the final dialogue between him and the guy he thinks is his partner... "Or not.". The ending made the whole movie meaningless.
One movie that pleasantly beat my low expectations for it was The Rocker. Surprisingly decent.
Yeah, the ending obviously went over your head.
Spoiler:
He's not insane. He just doesn't want to live with the knowledge that he killed his wife.
Ignoring the truth for what you'd rather believe, that dominates your life, is the definition of insane. Although I understand how somebody could think they are different. He is in the exact same state at the end of the movie as the beggining.
No he isn't.
Spoiler:
The entire point of the end scene is the name that he calls his "partner" by while walking away, he refers to him by his real name, not the name he had as a marshal, which shows that he has realised that the entire marshal thing is a lie.
The reason he supposedly "is in the exact same state" is because he cannot live with the knowledge that he killed his wife, and so convinces them, by talking as if he is still a marshal, to lobotomise him, so he doesn't have to live with the knowledge.
He isn't "ignoring the truth for what he'd rather believe" he has accepted the truth, but cannot live with it, and so engineers himself not having to live with the truth.
Ah ok, I'm wrong then. So the movie does have a point, he goes from crazy to sane but wanting a lobotomy to go back. I still personally don't like the movie. I Like Inland Empire and stuff, I don't hate metaphorical / dream movies, just pseudo wtf movies.
9th Gate is underated.
Animal factory too.
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My vote goes for a film called 'Bitch Slap'. Its actually so bad its funny. The acting is awful, the plot...ummmm the plot is there somewhere, the special effects are dodgy to. And yet it just seems to WORK...im bemused.....but please do check it out, you will be dissapointed but in a good way. I promise.
The Kilted Samurai wrote:There's a few on my list that people will probably hate me for but here it goes:
"Shutter Island"
I'm not sure what people hated so much about it. I thought it was pretty good, not amazing if anything. It was twisty enough to keep me interested and the acting was great as well.
"Star Wars Episode I" (Read statement before taring and feathering me lol)
I'm not actually a huge fan of this movie but I definitely liked it more than the other prequels. To me the Star Wars prequels really fell a part when Hayden Christen stepped onto the screen. Episode I, if you take out Jar Jar and the little kid is actually not a terrible movie, it's not good either but It's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It's holds up a hell of a lot better than the last two movies and the acting is much better (in the sense though that it's like the thinnest kid in fat camp lol). Episode II and III are definitely the worst in my opinion.
Just because a story uses a historical period or moment as a framework for the plot doesn't necessarily make it a historical movie.
We're not arguing whether the movie itself is historical, we're arguing about whether it's BASED on history.
Take all the films that involves Dracula, they're not legends themselves, but they're based on the legend of Dracula.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
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