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Yay! Never mind your favourite films, or those you despise. Not even those you consider to be fundamentallly underrated, but those whilst no great shakes seem to be regarded with a little more scorn than they actually deserve.

My vote? GI Joe, Rise of Cobra.

Granted, it's hardly groundbreaking. It's nowhere even near original, but it is otherwise pretty solid. Plot is good fun, acting is.....acceptably ropey, and the effects are there. All in all it's not a film I ever expected much from, yet seemed to deliver ever so slightly more than it's promise.


Plus...Rachel Nicols is in it. Giggedy.

I enjoyed that film too. Loved them suits.

Didn't expect much of it but was pleasantly surprised by it.

Are we picking mediocre films that are kinda OK? What a great idea!

I vote for that one with Ronald Reagan and a chimpanzee. I can't remember the name, but it's reasonably funny, as far as I can recall.

Just any film, usually bought as the third in a 3 for 2 deal which wasn't entirely bobbins, and actually quite enjoyable.

For instance not Valentine. A film so terrible they actually tell you on the back of the case who the killer is, and why he looks nothing like the person everyone thinks he is. Even the normally delectable Denise Richards in a Bikini can save that codswallop.

Kilkrazy wrote:Are we picking mediocre films that are kinda OK? What a great idea!

I vote for that one with Ronald Reagan and a chimpanzee. I can't remember the name, but it's reasonably funny, as far as I can recall.

Suitably intrigued, I found this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043325/

Is that the one?

That's the one!

Final Fantasy: Spirits Within.

I thought it was a really good CGI movie. Of course the only problem was that it was carrying the title of "Final Fantasy" and there wasn't much of anything from the series. Not a Final Fantasy fan at all, but I was still expecting it to be like the games in someway.

There's a few on my list that people will probably hate me for but here it goes:

"Shutter Island"

I'm not sure what people hated so much about it. I thought it was pretty good, not amazing if anything. It was twisty enough to keep me interested and the acting was great as well.

"Star Wars Episode I" (Read statement before taring and feathering me lol)

I'm not actually a huge fan of this movie but I definitely liked it more than the other prequels. To me the Star Wars prequels really fell a part when Hayden Christen stepped onto the screen. Episode I, if you take out Jar Jar and the little kid is actually not a terrible movie, it's not good either but It's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It's holds up a hell of a lot better than the last two movies and the acting is much better (in the sense though that it's like the thinnest kid in fat camp lol). Episode II and III are definitely the worst in my opinion.

Avatar.

There I said it.

Also Star Wars: The Phantom Menace/Revenge of the Sith.

Also Also Terminator:Salvation and Transformers:Revenge of the Fallen.

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I can't believe we didn't have this thread in our lives before and that now we have this thread, I can't imagine life without it...

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GiJoe was a film squandered. Of all the things they could have done with the franchise they produced nonsensical rubbish that was mostly back to back explosions. Why did we need power armour in the film? Why can we just have soldiers?

I detested the way that Scarlett was making eyes at Ripcord when she has *always* been Snake-eyes girl. Always. But this is hollywood and the attractive female star can't be paired off with a mute masked man. Oh by the way, Snake-Eyes wears a mask because he was horrifically injured saving Scarlett from a helicopter crash. But seeing as they've airbrushed their romance he's now silent because of taking a "vow of silence". LAME.

And the Baroness, they gutted that character, clearly you can't have a strong woman being a villainess just because it suits her, oh no she has to controlled by nanites. Furthermore she's always been Destro's (willing) girl and not a bit of fluff for Duke. Again Hollywood changing fundamental things to fit the "handsome good guy gets the girl" mould.

Then there's the trailer park universe aspect to it, it's bad enough in the comics but now we find out that the Baroness is Duke's ex and the cobra commander is also Duke's ex-buddy. WTF?!

Oh and the plot didn't make any sense. It seemed to be about "the Doctor" manipulating things so that he could take over and become Cobra Commander. Hence "Rise of the Cobra". But here's what I don't get; the bad guys appear to have a colossal underwater city bristling with missiles which is utterly destroyed just so "the Doctor" can escape in a tiny submarine as "Cobra Commander". Commander of what?!?! As an organisation they appeared to already have a GDP greater than the US with a colossal defense budget and medium sized army, and it's all thrown away so 'the Doctor' can become Commander. What's the point of all this terrorism when you already have more money than god?

Durr...

It's just like they took many ideas and characters from the GiJoe universe, put them all through a mincer and pressed what came out into the standard hollywood action movie mould just like every other crash-bang-wallop flick. And that's why it was a waste and stole 2 hours of my life.



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Star Wars Episode One was the least offensive of the prequel films. I find it decent enough viewing, Jar Jar Binks aside of course. And Anakin is a bit painful to watch. But it's fairly light hearted and the lightsabre duel at the end will always be impressive. Shame Darth maul hardly got any screen time. Episode II has it's moments, but I think all the stuff introducing the bug people was a mistake. Where did they come from? It's a bit of a mixed bag and a fair bit of the "romance" dialogue is atrocious. Episode III is pretty poor though, it just doesn't seem to convince at all. Anakin's turn to the dark side just doesn't work, they tried to build up his dark side but he still seems like a troubled but fundamentlly good person, and then just makes a colossal switch to the dark side and starts killing children. Eh? The ending of the film is there to satisfy a check list; Qui Gon's ghost here to teach Obi Wan? Check (though offscreen). Yoda going to Dagobah? Check. Babies adopted? Check. Padme inexplicably dying? Check. Droids given to Captain Antillies? Droids mind wiped? Sort of, they specifically only mind wipe C3PO and not R2D2, presumably because he can't speak english and therefore isn't a security risk.

Do Avatar and Shutter Island count? Avatar definatly doesn't i would have though??? $2,000,000,000 income!!

I have a list of movies too, but I'm not sure if they qualify.

Highlander, Lake Placid, Tremors, Starship Troopers, Ghostbusters, Willow, The Princess Bride, The Rundown, Serenity, Kung Fu Panda, and a bunch more, but like I said I'm not sure what the qualifications are.

Are they suppose to be universally thought of as a bad movie, but I liked it? Or are they suppose to be pretty good movies that just don't get enough appreciation?

Somewhere in the middle. Films that managed to excel your admitedly low expectations.

Starship Troopers...

And the Star Wars prequels. I really dont get all the prequel trilogy hate. Honestly, I think its the Halo effect. Some guy of minor importance/popularity said that the movies sucked, and everyone else is too afraid of being ostracized for having an original opinion so they just go with it. Well, I for one enjoyed the movies, and I thought Jar Jar was an entertaining character (though I still think he's annoying as sin... but he was MEANT to be annoying). Also keep in mind that I was brought up watching the original trilogy. Like, I watched those movies once a week at least as a child, so don't go accusing me of being in the 'prequel generation'. I knew more about star wars than most adult 'diehard fans' did when the phantom menace was released.

I would also add Noises Off to that list too. That is a funny movie.

I was pleasantly surprised with Brotherhood of the Wolf too.

Don't mess with the Zohan. It works because it insults everyone equally.

The Kilted Samurai wrote:There's a few on my list that people will probably hate me for but here it goes:

"Shutter Island"

I'm not sure what people hated so much about it.

Shutter Island is a bad movie because it is pointless.


One movie that pleasantly beat my low expectations for it was The Rocker. Surprisingly decent.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Seriously a far better film than people give it credit for. Take the 'Indy in the fridge' scene. Is it daft? Yup. Is it anywhere near realistic? Nope. Is it a very good send up of the Government Advice of the time on how to survive a Nuclear attack (i.e. duck and cover)....absolutely!

Is it different from the other Indies? Yup, but then it is paying homage to a different era of B-Movie, like...the 50's B-Movie, when Sci-Fi came into it's own.

I wouldn't say it's up there with my favourites, but there is nothing fundamentally wrong with it. Christ, if you want to pick holes in a film, why not start with Raiders of the Lost Ark? Shut in the room where the Ark was....the torches go out...but the light doesn't. No feasible reason for said room being full of snakes...even the opening sequence...Indy, betrayed twice in rapid succession. One dies in the temple, the other at the hands of natives...Indy then legs it, back to the plane...the two seater plane..... Crystal Skull is not unique in it's rather slapdash action affairs. But slap on the old Rose Tinted and everyone suddenly forgets this!

Brotherhood of the Wolf is so awesome. It cannot have a place on the list of mediocre films.

Riverworld was OK, despite my initial upset. The concept was interesting, the acting acceptable, but it was definitely a movie that wasn't living up to the book.

boogeyman wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised with Brotherhood of the Wolf too.

This too. I was also very surprised by Solomon Kane, I thought it would be a low B level movie but it was pretty good stuff. Can't beleive it took so long to get over here.

Back in my fraternity, we used to have a rating called "Better than it Had Any Right to Be." Basically, movies that sound terrible, but are actually pretty good.

The best example is "A Knight's Tale." Fun, quick paced, funny at the right moments, decent acting, and really quite good once you get passed the premise of "70's sports movie set in a the high middle ages"

"Down Periscope" is a great contender, because not only is it a funny Kelsey Grammar project in which he's not Dr. Crane, but it's also a good submarine movie in it's own right.

Closer to the OP's suggestion, I guess I'd go with "America's Sweethearts." It's a banal rom-com, but it's got some good john cusack moments, and a brilliant Christopher Walken bit at the end that makes it worthwhile.

Polonius wrote:Back in my fraternity, we used to have a rating called "Better than it Had Any Right to Be." Basically, movies that sound terrible, but are actually pretty good.

The best example is "A Knight's Tale." Fun, quick paced, funny at the right moments, decent acting, and really quite good once you get passed the premise of "70's sports movie set in a the high middle ages"

"Down Periscope" is a great contender, because not only is it a funny Kelsey Grammar project in which he's not Dr. Crane, but it's also a good submarine movie in it's own right.

Closer to the OP's suggestion, I guess I'd go with "America's Sweethearts." It's a banal rom-com, but it's got some good john cusack moments, and a brilliant Christopher Walken bit at the end that makes it worthwhile.

+1 for A Knight's Tale. I still watch it when I see it on TV

All of the Sinbad movies.
Warlords of Atlantis.
And there is a real old one called The Thief of Bagdad starring Steve Reeves that has poor effects but a solid story and would make a great remake with some shiny new CGI.

The last Rocky movie. It's not as much about boxing as about growing old alone.

A Black Ram wrote:

Same here though

Haters are gonna hate if they don't get the sarcasm but I thought Starship Troopers was hilarious, as was Battlefield Earth.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

The Kilted Samurai wrote:There's a few on my list that people will probably hate me for but here it goes:

"Shutter Island"

I'm not sure what people hated so much about it.

Shutter Island is a bad movie because it is pointless.

Spoiler:

The movies' big reveal is that the main character is crazy and the investigative mystery side of the movie which attracted audiences is a ruse to tell you about the crazy guy.
I remember thinking: "Oh so the point of this movie is to show you how this guy gets better". Cue the final dialogue between him and the guy he thinks is his partner... "Or not.". The ending made the whole movie meaningless.

One movie that pleasantly beat my low expectations for it was The Rocker. Surprisingly decent.

Yeah, the ending obviously went over your head.

Oh me too, Starship troopers was great, Battlefield Earth takes a certain kind of person to like it. And Im one of them Also Ill add this one


It should be a flop, but I really like watching it. And I think makes Elisabeth Shue incredibly cute