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skrulnik wrote:What annoys me is all the vents they put on their metal models.

You see this model, Lilith for example. THe model looks fntastic in the mag or DE book.
So you buy it.

You open the blister and there are all these vent streamers on all the parts, ruining the fine detail in places.

Compare this to Wyrd, Reaper, or PP where there are barely even mold lines, let alone streamers on vital parts of detail.

Yeah, GW have some of the worse "mould slippage" I've come across. Yeah in bad cases you can get a replacement, but really they shouldn't make it to sale. Combined with all the vents on the models, some are covered in tags of metal, it's surely a sign that they are placing speed over quality. GW have claimed to be the porshe of manufacturers, but the metal casting of many miniature companies put them to shame.

Commercialism, commercialism, commercialism.... That's what.¬¬

I stayed at my little store in the back o' beyond for that reason in my childhood, where most of the staff were more concerned with talking about paintballing than making a sale, but when that closed down due to ridiculous rent increases I was forced to go to the "big store" where I discovered the new face of GW that had been slowly seeping in over the years. Argh, just bring back the hobby that was about making an army personal to you, not just a run of the mill tactical one made up of all the latest models. Staff that would sit down and have a decent chat with you about something other than wargaming would be nice to, youknow when they aren't trying to force a copy of Black Reach on an uncesspecting customer. Eugh....the list goes on. ¬¬

Buzzsaw and HBMC have said it all.

Best way to FIX GW???

Get HBMC to run it. He would probably be happy with 100K a year, and I can GUARANTEE you the business would improve.



*sigh* - Baby Jervis cries...

What annoys me about GW is how many plastic kits the Space Marines get, and how many everyone else doesn't get. It also annoys me how badly they screwed up with the plastic Daemonettes.

The prices...

The neverending rise in product prises...

"sigh"

What annoys me about GW?

The incessant complaining of their target market.

Warhammer is a cover hobby for the real hobby of constant complaining. It's like paying a cover charge for being in an exclusive complainers club.

Buzzsaw wrote:Now, what makes that even more hard to swallow is that the black and white "illustrations" in the DE Codex range from new, competent and well executed, to what is obviously legacy art from apparently someone's high school doodles. Seriously, if you have the Codex, turn to page 24 (the one facing the rules for Combat Drugs); this may be the most poorly executed piece of ink ever vomited onto the the page of a book.

I was recently contacted by someone who doubted the my assessment of this artwork: those who would doubt, can find the image in my gallery here (image copyright Games Workshop, used in accordance with fair use).

Thats kind of standard Blanche art isn't it? If you don't like that, you probably don't like anything of his thats included in pretty much all of GWs books. Which is understandable, his art is pretty polarizing. Some love it, some hate it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Wouldn't it be quicker to list the things that don't annoy us?


5) Their totally unnecessary, draconian and, I have to say it, batsh!t insane levels of secrecy. Jesus Christ people - advertise. Yes, print and television media is expensive, but they don't even use their own magazine and website effectively. They act like children in this regard.
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I agree with this one in particular.

More tie-ins with the goldmine that is computer games/movies wouldn't go amiss either, I don't think they made anything like enough use of either DoW game. Why not a coupon for a free miniature (that required you to go into a GW store?) It's amazing how many people are unaware of the hobby even after buying the game, and I'm sure some kind of similar initiative could have brought in a great deal of new blood.

In short, I think they certainly need some kind of marketing department!

Were I and Buzzsaw running GW, I would certainly ensure that John Blanche kept his job. Do I like his 'scribble-art'? Not at all. But like it or lump it the man is responsible for some of the most iconic 40K imagery around and so much of what 40K is would not exist without the man. He is invaluable, and should never be removed (like Rick Priestly... oh wait... I guess that mean's Blanche might be on the chopping block soon, in the name of 'financial efficiency' at GW).

Pacific wrote:More tie-ins with the goldmine that is computer games/movies wouldn't go amiss either, I don't think they made anything like enough use of either DoW game. Why not a coupon for a free miniature (that required you to go into a GW store?) It's amazing how many people are unaware of the hobby even after buying the game, and I'm sure some kind of similar initiative could have brought in a great deal of new blood.

GW have squandered the (rather obvious) opportunities that their licensed properties could bring them. They have a monthly magazine and a website they could be using to promote these ‘other’ products to generate more interest in them, and thereby generate more interest in their own products. But they don't. They act like it's not something they have to do (which in some cases is true) whilst simultaneously failing to see that even a little effort could go a long, long way.

Now, in some circumstances it is not GW’s responsibility to advertise these products. Relic develops the Dawn of War games, yet GW does not publish them, THQ does, making it therefore THQ’s job as the publisher to get the word out and advertise the games (remember there is a member of Dakka called 'THQ Insider', an employee of THQ doing their job in promoting their 40K-related game on a 40K-centric website under the guise of 'exclusive information' and keeping us updated on new developments ie. doing what a good publisher should be doing). The thing is, GW is happy with that and content to sit back and suck in the royalty money for such an endeavour rather than putting in even the smallest amount of effort into putting something about the game into their (wasted) monthly magazine or their (joke of a) website. The same applies for Fantasy Flight Game – they have their own marketing department, publish their own stuff and do a fine job of promoting it themselves (hell, me and reds8n do it for them here for free!) so as usual it is not GW’s responsibility to advertise for them, but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t.

Now I’m not saying that they have to go and buy banner ads on websites to advertise products made, published and sold by other companies, but putting them on their own website and in their own magazine would be a good first step given that they control both of these things and can put in exactly what they want to, and even tie it back to their core products (promoting synergy and other corporate buzzwords ).

I said in my Ultramarines: The Movie review that the biggest failing of the movie was GW’s complete lack of interest. The month it came out ‘Ultramarines’ should have been on the cover of White Dwarf. There should have been multiple articles devoted to the movie in there – something from Alan Merrit (SP?) about the genesis of a movie idea, Dan Abbnet and the script for the movie, interviews with cast/crew, and some sort of Index Astartes on the main character and some rules for the characters and scenarios derived from the movies (and even a Battle Report – the Last stand of the Imperial Fists, ie. play out the back story to the Ultramarine movie with an Imp Fist player defending a cathedral from a huge Daemon and Chaos Horde). That’s called cross-promotion. That’s called using what you already have (a monthly magazine) to easily publicise an upcoming joint venture product to your target audience.

And they’re a miniature company as well. Let’s not forget that. Metal models are cheap(er than plastic models) to produce, so where was the Ltd. Ed. Box for the Ultramarine Characters? Where was the ‘Dark Crusade Commanders’ box when DoW: Dark Crusade came out, with Ltd. Ed. Metal models for Gorgutz, Eliphas, Taldeer/Macha (whichever one it was), the Guard General with the Lightning Claws, the cool Tau battle suit and so on, and rules in that month’s WD for those models?

Where’s the effort? Why is the closest they get to marketing these days a pathetic article in ‘What’s New Today’ about various painted models that each act as an example for a product they sell (including a link to said product)? Why do they delude themselves into thinking that the best way to market to us is to pretend that they’re not marketing to us and instead hide the marketing in utterly transparent 'hobby' articles?

They like to build up my hopes , then release something that ok, months after i have a half assed conversion.

I think they drink my tears, then charge me for it :(