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You know what is realy fun? The vanilla codex seems to be almost tame compared to some of Ward's later writings.

KingDeath wrote:You know what is realy fun? The vanilla codex seems to be almost tame compared to some of Ward's later writings.

Yeah I agree with you. But let us not forget that he was under the eye of not only 75% of the Space Marine players in GW, who kept giving him crap for writing something stupid.

ph34r wrote:

Cannibal wrote:Just go to your local car, murder everyone there, and bathe in the blood of the drunken. That'll protect you, right?

Edit: Wow that sentence sounds really bad out of content.

Especially because you managed to misspell "bar" "car".

Ok you grammer nazi, I fixed it

Cannibal wrote: The first thing the GK's do is slaughter the sisters, desecrate the bodies, and smear their blood all over themselves before purging the rest of the planet. Ok, so the murder of faithful ecclesiarchy aside, when did the noble Grey Knights start covering themselves with the blood of their innocent victims? If this is true it seems like Khorne would really approve of Grey Knights.

Are we being serious? Did this actually happen? That makes me a little ill...if I ever found those Grey Knights I would personally throw every one of them into the eye of terror. Hopefully they'd find their way to the planet that Tuska the Demon-Killa was on. Good fething luck, boys.

That's not the way things should be. At all. This sounds like the work of the Blood pact, or Chaos Space Marines, or Daemons.

But Grey Knights? God...that makes me question my whole interest in them.

That fluff is utter filth...

I'm so glad ward isn't writing the Sororitas codex. You'd have a sister slaying abbadon and then gakking on his corpse before they all went home and did drunk disco dancing.

gpfunk wrote:
But Grey Knights? God...that makes me question my whole interest in them.

I like to remember them as back during the Daemonhunters codex. Where the fluff was actually good.


On another note entirely, this fluff excerpt is definetly going in my essay on sex and gender in games.

Yeah, it's probably be along the lines 'Battle Sister Token is renouned for single handedly killing Nurgle and the Nightbringer, blowing up the eldar craftworlds, slapping Abadon into a black hole and then kicking the Emporer off the golden throne, taking his place and wiping out chaos in three seconds" and of course if anyone asked him why he's simply say "It'd have been a shame if I didn't", which seems to be his excuse to all his feth ups

Kurgash wrote:When the Necron book arrives I'm going to go through it with a 6 pack in hand and a tissue box, so I can drunkenly cry to myself at what my metal horrors have become.

"Necrons, a dead race that is more dead than anyone else. So dead that they rebuild themselves just to die again!"

Dude i'm at school and i couldn't stop laughing.

Thats just beatifull

Melissia wrote:That fluff is utter filth...

I'm so glad ward isn't writing the Sororitas codex. You'd have a sister slaying abbadon and then gakking on his corpse before they all went home and did drunk disco dancing.

Only after making out with a bunch of Necrons.

Holy crap that is a new level of fething terribad right there. I mean, sweet lord in heaven, what, I don't even, *brain shuts down*

Is this a terrible April Fools prank? I feel like we're missing something critical here. The SOB are also super zealous crusaders of righteousness, and if they weren't corrupted shouldn't they have teamed up, why kill potential allies? I mean GK do that (or mind-scrub them) but that's usually after the fight.

No, it's just Matt Ward.

The Grey Knights omnibus is one of my fav BL books and it was the reason i was going to buy a few GK's to paint them into the squads named in the book and maybe play a few games, after reading this im not sure i want to. I'd ask has ward buggered up the entire fluff but its a stupid question really, a sensible one would be has ward wrote something thats not bog roll?

Why doesnt some one start a petition to GW to have him stopped from ruining everything he he touches, i mean damn near every one thinks hes a terrible writer.

Wow, one of the big part of the Grey Knights was that none of them had ever fallen to Chaos. Pretty awful thing Ward has done if true.

It's so bad and so conveniently known today that I still suspect Aprils Fools joke however.

I certainly hope it is.

Matt Ward is bad enough normally, but this would be bad even for him.

So in this story did the GK actually fall to chaos, then decide to kill the SOB? I find that more believeable than regular ole GK deciding to kill some sisters for fun.

I used to think Ward was a harmless fanboy with a hard-on for SM and BA, but now I realize he's a truley awful addition to the GW team.

This is beyond bad, even for him, Matt just upped the ante in an accidental (or maybe intentional!) attempt to piss off every player who previously loved the Grey Knights' fluff.

I mean, why, in the Emperor's name, would GREY KNIGHTS, the un-corruptable epiphany of Space Marines, kill Sisters of Battle?!

EDIT: Grammar failure...

asimo77 wrote:So in this story did the GK actually fall to chaos, then decide to kill the SOB?

Nope. They just did it... because.

Thats... even worse than I was thinking...

EDIT: Time to kill Matt Ward with Ultramarines models, and his own Codices.

Melissia wrote:

asimo77 wrote:So in this story did the GK actually fall to chaos, then decide to kill the SOB?

Nope. They just did it... because.

All I have to say is, wtf guys. Seriously, wtf.

Just started GK. This saddens me. To the intent of a mid-life depression. It's like Anakin in star wars. He becomes what he is meant to destroy.

I really hope this is an april fools joke. Even if it is, it really says something that we believed it.

Da Boss wrote:I really hope this is an april fools joke. Even if it is, it really says something that we believed it.

Nope. It's real. Page 15 of the codex. I was shocked.

gloomygrim wrote:
Why doesnt some one start a petition to GW to have him stopped from ruining everything he he touches, i mean damn near every one thinks hes a terrible writer.

Done, link below if you wanna sign it

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/StopMattWard/

Cannibal wrote:Sombody told me today that they read the new GK codex and relayed a very vexing story to me. According to him, there's some background where a group of Grey Knights comes to a world where an artifact has corrupted it's inhabitants by chaos. There is an Adepta Sororitas convent on this planet, however the battle sisters have not been corrupted due to their faith and purity. The first thing the GK's do is slaughter the sisters, desecrate the bodies, and smear their blood all over themselves before purging the rest of the planet. Ok, so the murder of faithful ecclesiarchy aside, when did the noble Grey Knights start covering themselves with the blood of their innocent victims? If this is true it seems like Khorne would really approve of Grey Knights.

God that's just awful. What happened to grey knights being noble, incorruptible, uber psychic badasses like when I first read about them in Space Hulk? There seems to be a lot more of this stuff about the various, originally lawful, imperial groups slaughtering civilians than years ago. Yeah the inquisition are a dodgy bunch but the Grey Knights are supposed to be lawful-good IMO. Space Marines mass murdering innocents is more 'grimdark' I guess, entertaining for the kiddies that thing it's 'kewl'. Aren't the Marines supposed to be the good guys? Sorry for being old fashioned, but the space marines are supposed to be like medieval knights who do not needlessly slaughter their own people, leave that to the ones that have actually turned to chaos.

Yeah I don't see the point of this at all. The 40K universe is already layered with plenty of shades of grey, I was fine with Grey Knights being the unemotional paladins that do The Right Thing no matter what.
Killing a bunch of Sisters who had resisted and painting themselves with their blood? WTF.
There has been bad fluff before. But that takes the biscuit and the teabags too.

I signed the petition. Someone should make a thread about it in all Dakka forums.

Murdock129 wrote:

gloomygrim wrote:
Why doesnt some one start a petition to GW to have him stopped from ruining everything he he touches, i mean damn near every one thinks hes a terrible writer.

Done, link below if you wanna sign it

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/StopMattWard/

I can't sign it...
It won't allow me lol

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Leigen_Zero wrote:It's a daemon bound in a sword, destroy the physical presence of the sword, release the daemon. Hide it in Jupiter, well I'm sure a daemon who can distort space and time can go there and get it, or the sword can probably find it's way into someone or somethings hands by itself.

As for the sororitas thing, lolwut? you cannot be serious about that...

Yes he can. Page 15 of the new GK Codex, section labelled "876.M41 The Bloodtide Returns".

As for the Daemonblade, all they need to do to destroy it is borrow a wraithcannon from some Eldar and use it to send one half of the blade into the warp. That'd be a broken sword. Other possible solutions include:

Give it to Draigo, he seems to be doing pretty OK in the Warp...
Take it to the Emperor and let him mindbeam it into oblivion
Ask the Collegia Titanica to use it for target practice
Ask the Imperial Navy to use it for target practice
Use some handwavium to generate enough antimatter to annihalate (literally!) the sword

Or give it to Valdor. He DID after all beat HORUS in a sparring match. You Horus, the GREATEST OF THE PRIMARCHS WHO ALMOST KILLED THE EMPEROR?

Also, Lysander was trapped in the Warp for 1000 years, and came out as pure as the Emperor's throne, so I seriously doubt it could corrupt him. Also, ain't nothing gon' beat Lysander! I mean, going into battle w/ super-slow moving armour painted bright yellow you would need balls like watermelons, which isn't impossible considering we don't know everything about Astartes physiology.


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Da Boss wrote:Yeah I don't see the point of this at all. The 40K universe is already layered with plenty of shades of grey, I was fine with Grey Knights being the unemotional paladins that do The Right Thing no matter what.
Killing a bunch of Sisters who had resisted and painting themselves with their blood? WTF.
There has been bad fluff before. But that takes the biscuit and the teabags too.

Yeah...the blood painting seems kinda un-GK, although it isn't the first time they've fought the sisters. Did anyone read their Omnibus?


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Footsloggin wrote:This is beyond bad, even for him, Matt just upped the ante in an accidental (or maybe intentional!) attempt to piss off every player who previously loved the Grey Knights' fluff.

I mean, why, in the Emperor's name, would GREY KNIGHTS, the un-corruptable epiphany of Space Marines, kill Sisters of Battle?!

EDIT: Grammar failure...

I think you mean Epitome of SM, not Epiphany of SM lol!

As far as Matt Wards decision to even write that garbage, it's an obvious ploy to plant the seeds of doubt that will grow into a big "what if pink elephants were really blue" tree, so he can create a blip in the radar and pat himself on the back to be the first one to go against the norm and 'shake things up' at old GW. It's the only reason I can see why he does the things he does. He knows eventually GW old timers will retire, so he's biding his time so he can change the grim dark universe with good story, into a grim dark strung out from overdosing on crack with a bunch of Ork boyz who ate too many mushrooms and wrote poetry with a bunch of sopping sad Eldar Harlequins. Good Greif.