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ChocolateGork wrote:EPIC!

This reminds me... hey Relic when can we get an Epic videogame? Just like DOW but scrolled out to include whole companies of troops, superheavies, titans and gargants fighting over immense battlefields - Supreme Commander style. With the effective death* of tabletop Epic this would be a fantastic new use of the 40K IP that doesn't clash with GW's main market.

*yes I know you can still buy the models... but with no real support, a severely incomplete range and at prices more than doubled since the products were released

Smurfs??? blah change the chapter and ill bite

A few bits of information:

-As a few have stated, yes, it's a third person shooter, not first person.

-Also stated: multiplayer and co-op have been confirmed.

-Chaos Daemons and Marines have been confirmed as one of the "other" antagonists in the game. Take from that what you will.

-Multiplayer (allegedly) pits Ultramarines off against Chaos Marines in team based combat.

-Chainswords are not the only melee weapons usable, Storm Shields, Thunder Hammers, and Lightning Claws are slated to be in too.

Make of it what you will. Personally, I'm very excited for this game. I think some of the things people are criticizing it for are silly, but that's just me. This is going to be a definite buy for me, even if I do wait until Christmas to do so.

Why does everyone care that it's an Ultramarine? Big deal, he's blue, get over it. Saying "I won't buy this!!!11!!" because of a character skin is stupid; if you painted him red it would be the same game. That being said, character skins are common pre-order bonuses, so who knows.

EDIT: Welp, it is coming to PC. Good news!

Looking foreward to this. I am sure it will be something I buy, play for 15 minutes, then never touch again, but hopefully those will be some fun 15 minutes.

I am not saying this because I think there will be something wrong with the game, its just that I tend to be in a video game funk. Games look cool, I buy them, I play them for about 15 minutes, then get bored and go paint miniatures lol.

Brother SRM wrote:Why does everyone care that it's an Ultramarine? Big deal, he's blue, get over it. Saying "I won't buy this!!!11!!" because of a character skin is stupid; if you painted him red it would be the same game. That being said, character skins are common pre-order bonuses, so who knows.

As far as I know this isn't coming to PC, and is going to be an Xbox 360/PS3 game.

Its on steam, and says PC at the bottom of the trailer.


Alright, so I can stop playing LP2 for my third person action fix.

Co-Op means I am preordering it and beating it with my friend the week it comes out.

You can change your armor colors/make your armor look more fancy for multiplayer (with unlocks as you play)

It won't always be smashing orks, you will also have to fight traitor marines, whom are much more difficult to take down and it will be a challenge to fight 3 at the same time, along with backup from traitor guardsmen and demons.

Rumors that it will have SM vs CSM competitive multiplayer floating around, don't know about that for sure. There is definitely some sort of co-op multiplayer coming though.

Hey, its the second 40k shooter.

Looks better then Firewarrior!

Gore-tastic.

I'm not a massive shooter fan, but I'm very interested in this.

Happygrunt wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Why does everyone care that it's an Ultramarine? Big deal, he's blue, get over it. Saying "I won't buy this!!!11!!" because of a character skin is stupid; if you painted him red it would be the same game. That being said, character skins are common pre-order bonuses, so who knows.

As far as I know this isn't coming to PC, and is going to be an Xbox 360/PS3 game.

Its on steam, and says PC at the bottom of the trailer.


Alright, so I can stop playing LP2 for my third person action fix.

Co-Op means I am preordering it and beating it with my friend the week it comes out.

Well I'll be. Awesome! +1 for reading comprehension!

Hehehehehe..... this looks like some great mindless fun. Can't wait to pick this one up and play the hell out of it.

I wonder if the Co-Op mode will be hosted on a site similar to what Blizzard does with Diablo II. Any hint at that from the play-testers?

I'd assume co-op (and all PC multiplayer) would be through Steam, much like DoWII: Retribution.

Brother SRM wrote:I'd assume co-op (and all PC multiplayer) would be through Steam, much like DoWII: Retribution.

Heh, it might be GFWL again since they are also building it for 360. But who knows at this point, I am looking forward to more multiplayer info soon!

I would be inclined to agree with you, but Relic made it pretty clear they were done with GfWL after Retribution dropped the service.

Yes that is true, I'm sure they will tap into xbox live trueskill systems for competitive multiplayer on the xbox to some degree though.

It might be completely different on PC, we obviously won't know for a while.

Bolters exploding gak - CHECK!

Character of the Universe captured well - CHECK!

Plasmagun death - CHECK!

Made by pastey geeks with a penchant for facial hair - CHECK!

Everytime I think i'm growing out of computer games something good like this comes along.

PS - agreed with the last youtube comment about Relic games always orks being a threat then Choas and Eldar being behind everything (AGAIN!). Still Can't beat a classic! I'm in.

Mr Gold wrote:I don't care about all these fast reflex finger-based action, just give me another turn-based Strategy title.

Like this one

What he said! I could play a decent turn-based strategy game much longer than a twitchy action game.

Same here - I loved that game as well as FINAL LIBERATION.

Sadly, turn based strategy doesn't sell as well these days.

1997 and 1998 aren't walking through that door!

OT, this game still looks to be a lot of fun, and the August release date is sooner than I anticipated too, so, good times!

Just Dave wrote:I know this is coming across as bad reasoning and I know it's partially me being picky, but I don't know, I'm really not liking the feel of this. Gameplay-wise this is coming across very similar to 'Metal Arms Glitch in the System' if any of you ever played that, but that game didn't take itself seriously.

Hey if gameplay is like that game I REALLY want this game. Metal Arms is great fun. Damn you Blizzard for ruining the sequel!

But yes, do want. I wonder if the Titan is used at any point in the game, obviously not by the actual Space Marines but actually piloted by the appropriate pilots, that would be so cool.

The titan is a major plotpoint; I'd be surprised if they didn't use it at some point. That'd be like having a telephone in a shot of a movie, then at no point having it ring.

I could definitely see some bonus level where you use the titan to shoot some incoming ork crafts.

Brother SRM wrote:The titan is a major plotpoint; I'd be surprised if they didn't use it at some point. That'd be like having a telephone in a shot of a movie, then at no point having it ring.

I'm hoping for some epic fight stages within an operating titan destroying a city.

Wait, my birthdays in august, i know what im getting!

On one hand, it's annoying that they can't seem to get away from Orks as an antagonist, when there are so many cooler races to fight against. But on the other hand, I'm very glad that Chaos isn't the antagonist, as that would essentially make the game SMs vs. SMs, which would, once again, annihilate the scope and breadth of the 40k universe. Luckily Relic has hinted toward another antagonist, and there were sightings of Tyranid-like forms in the background of some screen shots... All conjecture at this point.

Nobody hates SMs more than I do. I think they are the most vanilla army in 40k. And the most vanilla chapter is the Ultramarines so that's a dose of double-bland... But truth be told, this game looks amazing and I will be buying it. As has been stated, the dominant chapter of SM in a game like this is completely irrelevant. Complaints about enemies exploding when kicked and other exaggerated violence? Uhh... welcome to Video Games 101. That's the way it's been done since Mortal Kombat came out 20 years ago. That sort of thing happens regularly in DoWII, but there were no complaints about it, and this game is looking like a close up DoWII. The cartoony graphics are also to be expected as SMs look increasingly ridiculous the more realistically they're portrayed.

It's very sad that Firewarrior wasn't given this much development love, as I would much prefer to play Tau or Dark Eldar in a game like this, but, regardless, this game looks incredibly fun.

Well, playing as Tau in a game like this would be awful on account of WS2! Even then we'd be getting a fluff abomination like Fire Warrior where one schmuck destroys half the Imperium. Space Marines are, fluffwise, one-man armies. They fit very well for this kind of game, and are the identifiable "face" of 40k.

Orks work well for this kind of game since there's hordes of them to chew through, and they provide some comic relief. Tyranids and Chaos work as well, since you can blast cultists/gaunts all day before fighting something dangerous like a Warrior or Chaos Marine for a mini-boss or what have you.

I would love a 4 player co-op horde mode like in Gears of War 2. I could do that all day!!!

NoBaconz4You wrote:I would love a 4 player co-op horde mode like in Gears of War 2. I could do that all day!!!

I'd like a 4 player campaign even more!

Brother SRM wrote:Well, playing as Tau in a game like this would be awful on account of WS2! Even then we'd be getting a fluff abomination like Fire Warrior where one schmuck destroys half the Imperium.

The WS2 problem is not insurmountable by any means. Nor is a solitary mass-slaughtering Firewarrior the only solution. But a Tau centered game is another subject entirely...
I don't deny that a SM works perfectly for this game. (That's probably why I'm excited to play it.) I'm just saying it's sad that the cooler, more interesting armies don't get this much attention.

Orks work well for this kind of game since there's hordes of them to chew through, and they provide some comic relief.

My gripe with Orks isn't just that they're overexposed as the default/minor antagonists in all 40 iterations. It's that I, personally, don't think their aesthetic meshes well in a sci-fi setting. But that's just my opinion.

Brother SRM wrote:

NoBaconz4You wrote:I would love a 4 player co-op horde mode like in Gears of War 2. I could do that all day!!!

I'd like a 4 player campaign even more!

Yes.
Yes.
Yes yes yes yes, Relic do it!