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Tyranid Tyrant Guard for me.
I despise the models, they look so pathetic and almost deformed considering what they are supposed to be/do.
I actually prefer the 3rd ed ones to the current range, go figure.

Closely followed by the metal IG psyker squads. Do not like.

I don't want so much of a re-doing, but I'd love plastic Techmarine/Chaplain kits.

Really I'm surprised at that, but I guess it's subjective as always.

Personally this guy is one of my favorite models, I think an absolutely beautiful sculpt. In the drive to make an all-plastic range it's easy to forget that some models would just not be possible in plastic.

Most in need...the tomb spider....looks more like a tomb log

Element206 wrote:Most in need...the tomb spider....looks more log a tomb log

Tomb spider and scarabs tbh.

What these look like when the new codex comes out is going to decide if I start them or not...

#1) Warriors of Chaos Chariot - AFAIK there's literally no heavy chariot (plastic or otherwise) on the market to sub in instead of GW's abominable old crapper, but I want to run three of them

#2)

Munga wrote:Chaos dreadnought.

Amen brother. I'll take at least three of these too, and then figure out how to get them into my square-based chaos anyway. Perhaps as chariots?

- Salvage

Really I'm surprised at that, but I guess it's subjective as always.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that it looks cool. But I just think a plastic kit would be easier to apply wargear too, and make it easier to customize.

CT GAMER wrote:What these look like when the new codex comes out is going to decide if I start them or not...

I agree. What has kept my interest away from the Necrons is basically the fact that every unit that isnt a troop choice looks like butt. I will be waiting in anticipation for the new codex and to see a major evolution to the Necron warriors.

AvatarForm wrote:

Asuron wrote:Im thinking Obliterators
Horrible, ugly models and yet they are almost necessary to include in a CSM force

Blitza da warboy wrote:
Obliterators (they look silly, not scary.

If you think the new Oblits look bad, you should have seen their previous, blocky incarnations.

ROFL, you don't need to tell me that I've owned 6 of them since they were released >.< I still use them because I refuse to pay the outrageous cost for the new style ones!


As far as kits that need improvement I'm basically just going to be repeating here:

-Oblits, plastic would be nice. and maybe a box set
-Noise Marines need a seeeerious overhaul. Openin that box set was the most dissapointing thing I have done all year. 1 sonic weapon in a bloody box when it's an option for every unit?? lets get real people.. Still don't know what I paid the extra $20 for...
-Ork wartracks and any of the other vehicles that haven't been updated since the early 90's!! most of them look fine they are just out of scale and lacking detail compared to newer models.
-Plague Marines... but that's just because I think the current models look terrible!
-Any of the Dark Eldar that hasn't been updated yet. The old fat faced cartoony models need to be melted down and made into bases or something
-Sisters of Battle need a serious overhaul. scale wise they are quite whacky and having to buy a complete army of pewter is obsurd. Most of that army needs redoing! Penitant engines (they come in white boxes when you order them) and female inquisitors are horrid!
-I haaaaaaaaate the new style assault packs. they are a gap filling nightmare!

That's all I can think of right now

I find it pretty shocking GW still bother to sell the Ork Wartrakk and Buggy. Unbearably outdated models.

If it aint broke...

They still sell, because they are a solid choice in-game, but they are fugly and only come with twin-linked big shootas, which almost no-one uses. They need to come with rokkit launchas as an option, and with proper ork-sized orks to drive them. I have about 30 of the tiny orks that i use as counts-as grot yoofs for my guncrews

I don't dispute that they're a good unit to have, though I'd only ever use them as skorcha buggies (Deffkoptas are otherwise superior in most respects), but they're just a horrible, ugly, dated model.

Go look on the GW website, at the "Fast Attack" page for Orks. You see your Stormboyz, the bikes, Zagstruk, the Deffkopta model nobody actually owns (all great models)... then you see the Wartrakk and Warbuggy at roughly the same price as the others. I just can't imagine anyone's going on that page and thinking "yes! I'm having that."

Kid_Kyoto wrote:What it says on the tin - What kits are most in need of re-doing?

With 6th edition in sight Marines will get some new toys so we might get an update to the 4th edition Razorback now with all the options.

Looking at the awesome GK Termis the current termis just look like rubbish, I can see them being redone, hopefully with all the assault options included.

In fantasy I've been hoping the line of stiff Chaos warriors will get redone. They look good, don't get me wrong, but kind of boring in a unit and they're missing their great weapon options.

Who else?

What else?

Eldar Avatar
Chaos Dreadnought
Obliterators
Possessed
Havoks
Plaguebearers
Raptors
Everything that's still metal.

Worglock wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:What it says on the tin - What kits are most in need of re-doing?

With 6th edition in sight Marines will get some new toys so we might get an update to the 4th edition Razorback now with all the options.

Looking at the awesome GK Termis the current termis just look like rubbish, I can see them being redone, hopefully with all the assault options included.

In fantasy I've been hoping the line of stiff Chaos warriors will get redone. They look good, don't get me wrong, but kind of boring in a unit and they're missing their great weapon options.

Who else?

What else?

Eldar Avatar
Chaos Dreadnought
Obliterators
Possessed
Havoks
Plaguebearers
Raptors
Everything that's still metal.

What? The Posessed are some of GW`s coolest models!


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tehbarry wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:What it says on the tin - What kits are most in need of re-doing?

With 6th edition in sight Marines will get some new toys so we might get an update to the 4th edition Razorback now with all the options.

Looking at the awesome GK Termis the current termis just look like rubbish, I can see them being redone, hopefully with all the assault options included.

In fantasy I've been hoping the line of stiff Chaos warriors will get redone. They look good, don't get me wrong, but kind of boring in a unit and they're missing their great weapon options.

Who else?

What else?

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Woah woah woah, wait a second there! 6th edition is coming? O.O I didn't know that, so thanks for the news!

On the question, I think the whole high elf, dark elf, and wood elf ranges need a bit of redoing or such things.

It is not sure at all that it comes out soon(2012).

Eldar Jetbikes.

They are the exact same model from when I first started playing in second edition. The Jes Goodwin prototype photo looked amazing. The Dark Eldar codex dropped the ball when it came to writing rules for reavers, so no one uses them. Take that model design, make a Saim-Hann list, profit.

I know it's been said but Marine Bikes.....they are terrible.

Content Josho wrote:I find it pretty shocking GW still bother to sell the Ork Wartrakk and Buggy. Unbearably outdated models.

I think they're easily the most out of date models, especially since they have the least ability to be upgraded. At least the SM and CSM bikes can be dressed up with weapon, arm, and head swaps, plus there is the ravenwing sprue.

The trakk/buggy are just piles of old.

Remember kids: old metal is classy. Old plastic is out of date. (unless it's the 20+ old rhino hulled vehicles I have because I got them all in fire sales or used and refuse to replace them)

OH MY GOD! what the hell are all you marine players whining about? "the bikers need redoing, the predators need redoing, i want some new terminators!" Never mind the fact that last year HALF of the GW range were....

Thats right!: Marines.
and im not just taling about 40k here, half of EVERYTHING that GW released in 2010 was for marines, that includes WHFB and LOTR, over 50% of the releases were marines. and you are STILL whining over the fact that "my marine biker is looking ever so slightly out of date even though i have all this new stuff, i want more".

meanwhile, all us xenos playyers are waiting for our stuff, like necrons which havent been updated since i started the hoby! thats over 5 years ago!!! look at the wartrakks and war buggies! I think that GW has way more important stuff to do than make new marines! only problem is that they still have black templars and dark angels to update if they feel like it. with their current trends i wouldnt be surprised if they completley forgot that they had xenos races, and after updating those two marines chapters decided to do some new rainbow marines, because they have run out of marine codecies to update.
MARINE PLAYERS: STOP WHINING, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO BE COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!

This just in: Speds Mahreens players expect to be catered to like the special snowflakes that they are.

Possessed: No. The kit is terrible, the rules are terrible. They are a double decker sandwich of greasy cold terrible.

Well, When a huge chunk of people that buy GW buy Space Marines, they're going to be catered to.

yes, I'm not telling GW to stop catering to marine players, that would be bad for marketing, but I am saying stop bloody whining about not getting your new razorback, or that your bikers are rubbish when you get 50% of the releases.

Chaos Dreadnought. But then I guess their rules might keep people from taking them in the first place...so there's no need to update the model.


I think more people would be enticed to play the Tau if their battlesuits looked like the Forge World XV9 versions. It's strange that their vehicles look so organic and their battlesuits look like...bricks.

Content Josho wrote:I find it pretty shocking GW still bother to sell the Ork Wartrakk and Buggy. Unbearably outdated models.

To be honest I think they have taken advantage of the fact that the Ork player base tends to be made up of individuals that like/can kit-bash and convert readily, and that such creative modeling is also rather Orky.

In effect GW has used the nature of the army Ork army and the type of people often attracted to it as a crutch to not do anything with either of these kits...

CT GAMER wrote:

Content Josho wrote:I find it pretty shocking GW still bother to sell the Ork Wartrakk and Buggy. Unbearably outdated models.

To be honest I think they have taken advantage of the fact that the Ork player base tends to be made up of individuals that like/can kit-bash and convert readily, and that such creative modeling is also rather Orky.

In effect GW has used the nature of the army Ork army and the type of people often attracted to it as a crutch to not do anything with either of these kits...

Yea, srsly... my war buggies are AoBR deffkoptas with some kit bashing some clipping and re gluing. same with my trukks and battlewagons... sure the GW ones look cool but why have a me too wagon or trukk when you can buy some bits and make something unique... the orks don't have factories where their vehicles are made, they are cobbled together with what they find and usually only work because the orks believe they work. it makes for some interesting fluff.

one thing on my block currently I want to make is a looted wagon with boom gun out of a necron monolith.. never mind how it came to be taken by the orks but a big mek saw it, saw how big it was and convinced his warboss to go get it... I want to put a ridiculously oversized boomgun on that huge model and make it look like its held together with rope and shouldn't still function... will i field it ... probably not due to LoS issues and a rhino looted wagon is better to field but still will be cool to break out vocationally for the wtf is that factor

but on list of things that need to be redone I think tyranid zoanthropes need to be redone it's head is just to big, i think it look out of place, and i agree that tau battle suits could use redoing but i bet that will happen when they get their new codex to cache in

Eldar Avatar

GTFO!
The Avatar is a classic! (maybe a touch too small but still)

Kroothawk wrote:Out of my head:

(Wraithguard is not a redo of a kit, but a new plastic kit)

This is a re-do... by exact definition. The present 2-3 metal poses would be re-done in plastic with multi-part kits...

Pacific wrote:

MandalorynOranj wrote:Jain Zar, IMO worst-looking model in the game.

I will take your Jain Zar, and raise you this:

The GW shop paint job is what lets that mini down... you should see it painted true grimdark...

Worglock wrote:This just in: Speds Mahreens players expect to be catered to like the special snowflakes that they are.

Possessed: No. The kit is terrible, the rules are terrible. They are a double decker sandwich of greasy cold terrible.

Sorry for saying again, but I do not get what is bad about the kit. And we are no talking about rules anyway.

Eldar Jetbikes, and everything metal. Everything.

Necanor wrote:

Worglock wrote:This just in: Speds Mahreens players expect to be catered to like the special snowflakes that they are.

Possessed: No. The kit is terrible, the rules are terrible. They are a double decker sandwich of greasy cold terrible.

Sorry for saying again, but I do not get what is bad about the kit. And we are no talking about rules anyway.

I think it's more the potential for what could have been, the plastic kits look kind of comic-book esque to me, lots of big smooth surfaces and the disjointed connection of appendages.

If made in metal or resin, I think they could have been far more detailed and characterful, and ultimately more terrifying, which I think is something that 'possessed' should be. When they move into base contact with your models during a game, you should be genuinely afraid (regardless of rules), not thinking they look like some kind of Halloween version of the Y.M.C.A.

Pacific wrote:If made in metal or resin, I think they could have been far more detailed and characterful, and ultimately more terrifying, which I think is something that 'possessed' should be.

They could have been... unfortunately, though, the metal Possessed that preceded the plastic kit were instead imeasurably silly-looking.