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Pacific wrote:Really I'm surprised at that, but I guess it's subjective as always.

Personally this guy is one of my favorite models, I think an absolutely beautiful sculpt. In the drive to make an all-plastic range it's easy to forget that some models would just not be possible in plastic.

It's a nice looking model, but there's nothing about it that would be particularly difficult to translate to plastic. In fact, a lot of today's plastics are far more intricate/detailed than that model. I could actually see a plastic box set with a techmarine, optional servo-harness, and assorted retinue coming out in the next marine wave if for no other reason than the fact that marines have little else that isn't already plastic.

dumbuket wrote:

Pacific wrote:Really I'm surprised at that, but I guess it's subjective as always.

Personally this guy is one of my favorite models, I think an absolutely beautiful sculpt. In the drive to make an all-plastic range it's easy to forget that some models would just not be possible in plastic.

It's a nice looking model, but there's nothing about it that would be particularly difficult to translate to plastic. In fact, a lot of today's plastics are far more intricate/detailed than that model. I could actually see a plastic box set with a techmarine, optional servo-harness, and assorted retinue coming out in the next marine wave if for no other reason than the fact that marines have little else that isn't already plastic.

Anyone who has knowledge of the plastic casting process know if the Techmarine would be possible in plastic? I don't know enough about it sadly, although I think the character models are one area I think they should leave alone - there is a beautiful level of detail they can achieve with metal, plastic is getting closer but there is still a difference between them. Personally I think complaining about a handful of individual models in the army (compared to the hordes of plastic minis) is going a little OTT. It's not that bad.

To me one of the main units that should be re-done is the humble Tactical Squad.

It should come with all the options, and have more intricate detail in the Marines themselves - their casting has improved enough to allow for all the ornate detail we see in their artwork.

A lot of others need pimping up as well, but for me, this is the main one.

GW should NOT make any more marine things for at east another year. they need to concentrate on their xennos, tau, necrons, definitley SOB, but NOT marines. NEVER marines for at least a year. you guys got 50% of the stuff last year, its our turn. this really bugs me. and why bother redoing the techmarine anyway? its a really nice model and there is absolutley no reason to redo it in plastic. it wouldnt add anything to the model. why would you want it in plastic? id prefer the metal one tbh.

I am going to put forth my vote for redoing the entire Sisters of Battle line.

The bolter sisters have about 7 poses I think. There are only 2 of each special weapon. There are only 1 type of each heavy weapon - I mix the bodies & weapons (and occasionally convert) so my Retributors don't look like quadplets. Exorcists are slowed looking. There is 1 metal canoness (with separate weapon bitz, but still - ONE POSE).

Plastic troop kits alone would revitalize the sisters completely - you could then kitbash every other model except the Exorcists.

I drool thinking about redoing seraphim in plastic, and getting rid of those awful foot spikes.

GW should NOT make any more marine things for at east another year. they need to concentrate on their xennos, tau, necrons, definitley SOB, but NOT marines. NEVER marines for at least a year. you guys got 50% of the stuff last year, its our turn. this really bugs me.

Whoa, easy fella. I put forward the Tactical Squad because Marines (of any form) are the most popular army, the kit has been around for over a decade & all they've changed is the price

I too would like to see Sisters done - I'm re-painting a small army at the moment & the Exorcist kit is a real pain - this said I think the models still hold up nicely, even with the limited poses. I think Tau & Necrons, hopefully Sisters, - will be done over the next year/18 months - but expect to see Black Templars at some point in between.

GW will never go a full year without releasing some SM models of some description because they sell too well. Sorry...

I think they should redo the Space Marine Terminator kit so that it includes robed and hooded bodies so I can have Deathwing Terminators that look appropriate and don't have to work on sculpting.

Content Josho wrote:I find it pretty shocking GW still bother to sell the Ork Wartrakk and Buggy. Unbearably outdated models.

Gets my vote too they're basically only good for taking a dremel after for conversions. The only up side to them is everyone else thinks they suck so you can get them for < $5 on occasion.

Here are the kits that I think need redesign.

Elder Harliquins
Elder Jetbikes, including the Viper

Necron Flayed Ones
Necron Heavy Destroyer
Necron Immortals
Necron Monolith
Necron Scarabs
Necron Tomb Spider

Ork Warbuggy
Ork Wartrack, including Scorcha

Tau Crisis Battlesuit, all variations and derivatives
Vespid

Witch Hunter Penitent Engine

What I'd really like to see for all armies:

A box with basic troops and basic weapons.
A box with special and heavy weapon options.

I know *why* they don't do it this way (and I know it will never happen in a million years), but if I woke up in paradise tomorrow, that's how things would be.

Plastic Death Korps of Krieg!

Plastic Traitor Legion Stuff.

Overhaul about 90% of the Chaos line. Start with the Dreadnoughts and Obliterators, go through many of the special characters, end with an honest-to-god drop pod. They should have them.

I love the plastic Demon Prince for Chaos, though. I bought one for my D&D campaign because it looks so cool.

walker90234 wrote:GW should NOT make any more marine things for at east another year. they need to concentrate on their xennos, tau, necrons, definitley SOB, but NOT marines. NEVER marines for at least a year. you guys got 50% of the stuff last year, its our turn. this really bugs me.

You stated this in another thread recently. Only 1 Space Marine codex came out in 2010: Blood Angels. Dark Eldar and Nids were the other 2. That's 33%. Frankly, I'm not sure why all of the hate. When you update 1 space marine codex, the others really don't need that much work. Don't you want GW to make money and keep making this game?

I'm also of the opinion that Tau, Eldar, and Chaos should have new codexes by now. In fact, as some other posters have said, you should update all of the codexes at once, when the new editions come out.

Mephiston
Corbulo

Any troop choice only available in metal that requires more than 5 minis to be effective, or costs more than i dunno 50 bucks.

DE beasts, Scorpions, banshees, wraithguard etc

SM scouts

Daemon troops should all be plastic

Daemon Prince lol

Warp spiders.

They are still the same model that we were using in 2nd ed.

bushido wrote:Chaos Dreadnought. But then I guess their rules might keep people from taking them in the first place...so there's no need to update the model.

I like the Chaos Dreadnoughts rules, I just hate the metal model. If they made one that looked good, I would buy one and only have to do minor conversions to it instead of fully converting a Loyalist Dreadnought or paying out a ludicrous amount of money for a Forge World Dreadnought that comes with ZERO arms/weapons requiring even more money to be spent, just to have one good looking model.

Also, some Chaos Legion specific upgrade sprues would be nice... torsos, heads, weapons, and shoulder pads all in one kit.

I don't know.

They all seem okay to me. I don't mind kitbashing/converting to get the desired unit. Doesn't matter anyways... old kit... new kit... I'm still going to somehow get glue on 50% of my fingers. *clumsy hands is clumsy*

The new kits have alot more things on them in less sprues

kronk wrote:Plastic Death Korps of Krieg!

Plastic Traitor Legion Stuff.

Overhaul about 90% of the Chaos line. Start with the Dreadnoughts and Obliterators, go through many of the special characters, end with an honest-to-god drop pod. They should have them.

I love the plastic Demon Prince for Chaos, though. I bought one for my D&D campaign because it looks so cool.

walker90234 wrote:GW should NOT make any more marine things for at east another year. they need to concentrate on their xennos, tau, necrons, definitley SOB, but NOT marines. NEVER marines for at least a year. you guys got 50% of the stuff last year, its our turn. this really bugs me.

You stated this in another thread recently. Only 1 Space Marine codex came out in 2010: Blood Angels. Dark Eldar and Nids were the other 2. That's 33%. Frankly, I'm not sure why all of the hate. When you update 1 space marine codex, the others really don't need that much work. Don't you want GW to make money and keep making this game?

I'm also of the opinion that Tau, Eldar, and Chaos should have new codexes by now. In fact, as some other posters have said, you should update all of the codexes at once, when the new editions come out.

As much as I love the Death Korps, I am against the idea of plastic figures, since you could never have such beautiful details on them. Though they should do plastic Thudd guns and Mortars.

Breotan wrote:Ork Warbuggy

Wow, I didn't know they were still doing that one. It's really old. Never got one though.

Breotan wrote:Here are the kits that I think need redesign.

Elder Harliquins
Elder Jetbikes, including the Viper

Necron Flayed Ones
Necron Heavy Destroyer
Necron Immortals
Necron Monolith
Necron Scarabs
Necron Tomb Spider

Ork Warbuggy
Ork Wartrack, including Scorcha

Tau Crisis Battlesuit, all variations and derivatives
Vespid

Witch Hunter Penitent Engine

What's wrong with Harlequins?

Kanluwen wrote:I think they should redo the Space Marine Terminator kit so that it includes robed and hooded bodies so I can have Deathwing Terminators that look appropriate and don't have to work on sculpting.

While they are at it, perhaps including Combi-meltas and Cyclone launchers in the Terminator and SW Terminator sets would be a step forwards.

I put forward the Tactical Squad because Marines (of any form) are the most popular army, the kit has been around for over a decade & all they've changed is the price

I don't play anymore but I do remember the tactical marine sprue got a recut when their fourth edition codex came out. It was a huge thing that plastic plasma guns came into existence. Many parts are the same as the old one but they did add parts and juggle around the extra bits some.

JoeyHeadwounds wrote:

bushido wrote:Chaos Dreadnought. But then I guess their rules might keep people from taking them in the first place...so there's no need to update the model.

I like the Chaos Dreadnoughts rules, I just hate the metal model. If they made one that looked good, I would buy one and only have to do minor conversions to it instead of fully converting a Loyalist Dreadnought or paying out a ludicrous amount of money for a Forge World Dreadnought that comes with ZERO arms/weapons requiring even more money to be spent, just to have one good looking model.

I pointed this out in another thread, but:
Chaos Dreadnought = £36
Forgeworld Dread (with 2 arms) = £40

In the US, the Chaos Dread is $58. A FW dread would be $66.

If you can get free shipping (to avoid the $10 shipping charge), possibly by buying with friends, it's not a bad deal.

I do agree that Chaos needs a new Dreadnought, however. The current model is both ugly and outrageously expensive. Chaos dread costs $58, while the loyalist scum only pay $45.

(I apologize in advance if GW sees this and immediately raises the price on the Loyalist dreadnought)

biccat wrote:
(I apologize in advance if GW sees this and immediately raises the price on the Loyalist dreadnought)

You dont really mean it...

walker90234 wrote:
MARINE PLAYERS: STOP WHINING, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO BE COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!

Please don't whine about whiners, you just look stupid. This thread is for whining about model kits. Ha.

Redo the meganobs to plastic and those flying metal boxes they call deffkoptas. Just release the aobr ones.

In fact anything thats metal to plastic if possible.

AvatarForm wrote:

biccat wrote:
(I apologize in advance if GW sees this and immediately raises the price on the Loyalist dreadnought)

You dont really mean it...

I would laugh, but feel bad about it.

biccat wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

biccat wrote:
(I apologize in advance if GW sees this and immediately raises the price on the Loyalist dreadnought)

You dont really mean it...

I would laugh, but feel bad about it.

As I suspected.

Now get back into the GW vs CH thread and answer our Legal Qs

Lokirfellheart wrote:What's wrong with Harlequins?

For me, just the poses. They're supposed to look like they're leaping about, but instead mostly just look like they're balancing on overly starched loincloths, for the most part.

'Flying through the air' is hard to pull off on a static mini, and for my money the Harlies just didn't quite get there. Which takes takes some otherwise spectacular models and leaves them looking a bit silly.

insaniak wrote:

Lokirfellheart wrote:What's wrong with Harlequins?

For me, just the poses. They're supposed to look like they're leaping about, but instead mostly just look like they're balancing on overly starched loincloths, for the most part.
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Thank you for providing me with a belly-laugh today