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Guard vs Chaos Marines would make me happy.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:wait...SoB no longer have 3+ saves? That's not right.

My bad, I meant 6++. They and their vehicles all have a 6+ invulnerable save standard now.

Is that FW?

Tagboard Wizard wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:wait...SoB no longer have 3+ saves? That's not right.

My bad, I meant 6++. They and their vehicles all have a 6+ invulnerable save standard now.

Ok, now that's more like it.

Deadshot wrote:Is that FW?

is what?

That MM arm?

Cadorius wrote:It'll be GK vs Plague Marines. Now you too can carve your name upon Mortarion's rotting heart

Yeah, who did that? I couldn't find it in the codex.

Draigo.

Its from the older dreadnought model. It may be the DA or BA one. I dunno I have 2 bodies and arms for 3. AC Left and Right (2), MM, DCCW (2) Left and Right

When the imperium had metal dreads ( pre DarkAgeofTechnology ), there were 5 types:

- Bjorn, a SW dread with AC / claws
- A ultramarine dread with AC / DCCW
- A Dark Angels dread with TL-Las / ML
- A Blood Angels dread with MM / DCCW
- A furioso ( BA ) with 2x DCCW

Was possible to order the parts separately with bitz service ( also pre AgeofStrife ).

Now,we have

A plain dread with Missile launcher,Lascannon and Assault cannon
A venerable with Plasma Cannon,Las cannon,Assault cannon,and 2 types of fist.
An Ironclad,with either a Seismic hammer or Chainfist,with either a Meltagun or HF,a DCCW with Sbolter or HF,a Hurricaine bolter,2 HKs and farg launchers.
A Furioso,which can have a pair of DCCW,or Blood Talons,or a force weapon.
a MM dread from AOBR.
Forge world dreads,including the comtemptor pattern.
Chaos Dreads and FW models under the same rules.

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Maybe a starter set is a chance for them?

I don't think that Vanilla Marines are out.SM are the cover boys for the 40k,and the simpliest.The aim of the starter set is to teach the pl;ayer the rules,and the SM have the simplest.

It will definately be Vanilla(if not Smurfs,theIF,CF,Raven Guard,Salamanders,Iron Hands,or hopefully Blood Ravens).It won't be White Scars,because they are a bile army,and bikes are not the simple units you put in en masse for your first game.

1hadhq wrote:When the imperium had metal dreads ( pre DarkAgeofTechnology ), there were 5 types:

- Bjorn, a SW dread with AC / claws
- A ultramarine dread with AC / DCCW
- A Dark Angels dread with TL-Las / ML
- A Blood Angels dread with MM / DCCW
- A furioso ( BA ) with 2x DCCW

Was possible to order the parts separately with bitz service ( also pre AgeofStrife ).

So this is a legitimate question...where the eff did I get this?

WOOOOAAAHHHHHH!


Double Assault Cannon!


Maybe use it as a Comtemptor dreadnought,as they are the only ones capable of taking twin Assault cannons.

Deadshot wrote:I don't think that Vanilla Marines are out.SM are the cover boys for the 40k,and the simpliest.The aim of the starter set is to teach the pl;ayer the rules,and the SM have the simplest.

It will definately be Vanilla(if not Smurfs,theIF,CF,Raven Guard,Salamanders,Iron Hands,or hopefully Blood Ravens).It won't be White Scars,because they are a bile army,and bikes are not the simple units you put in en masse for your first game.

If I had to lay money down on a new frontpage army for C:SM it would be back to CF. Blue is a forgiving color and yellow is not otherwise I'd Say IF. I wouldnt hold your breathe on Blood Ravens. Thier fluff from the game and other GW stuff leaves them in a wierd middleground between IF and BA heritage, red is also not a forgiving color. I'm genuinely interested to see what does happen.


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Deadshot wrote:WOOOOAAAHHHHHH!


Double Assault Cannon!


Maybe use it as a Comtemptor dreadnought,as they are the only ones capable of taking twin Assault cannons.

I'm going to clean it up and use it in Apoc games as part of my BA Task Force.

It's left arm looks converted.

So black templars or witch hunters (or mix the two?) vs daemons or eldar? eldar need plastic aspect stuff.

BT are too complicated to use from the start.6+ invulnerables,but no cover,but if you're playing 750pts+ you must get this guy,gut he doesn't count as an HQ slot,unless he is your only HQ,then he does.

Complicated?Yes.

SM are the face of 40k,not Sisters.It will be Vanillas vs either Chaos or Eldar.

Deadshot wrote:BT are too complicated to use from the start.6+ invulnerables,but no cover,but if you're playing 750pts+ you must get this guy,gut he doesn't count as an HQ slot,unless he is your only HQ,then he does.

Complicated?Yes.

The bolded part is only true if you take what is probably the worst Vow in the Codex. And seriously, how hard is it to understand the sentence "If you're at 750+ points, you have to take the Emperor's Champion"?

They would more than likely release a new BT codex, if they are going to be in the box.

Dark Angels vs. Necrons? I'd buy that in a picosecond.

Anything but Templars, I'd like to make a new army based on half the box, with Aurelia looking at the other half.

That plans falls flat on its face if its them, as neither of us likes em.

I'd like Black Templars vs Tau, both need a new codex, both need the extra sales.

Phototoxin wrote:It's left arm looks converted.

So black templars or witch hunters (or mix the two?) vs daemons or eldar? eldar need plastic aspect stuff.

Holy Shnit it is!. I never thought to really look at it that way because it was pewter, but on the inside of the arm you can see the skull and lightning bolt from the outside of the other arm...I wonder if one of these dreads is a total recast.

Toastedandy wrote:I'd like Black Templars vs Tau, both need a new codex, both need the extra sales.

Go go Damocles Crusade?

AustonT wrote:

Phototoxin wrote:It's left arm looks converted.

So black templars or witch hunters (or mix the two?) vs daemons or eldar? eldar need plastic aspect stuff.

Holy Shnit it is!. I never thought to really look at it that way because it was pewter, but on the inside of the arm you can see the skull and lightning bolt from the outside of the other arm...I wonder if one of these dreads is a total recast.

The assault cannon is a right arm ONLY weapon in the citadel annual.
Left arm had 3 variants: DCCW(stormbolter), Furioso DCCW(identical but heavy flamer instead of stormbolter) and missile launcher.

The sarcophagus in the pic is actually a BA one.

Could take a shot with the camera of that page in the catalogue. (in 2000 its 26/27 ).

Eldar got finecosted, don't they? Unlikely to move to plastic.

And Tau vs BT would hint at Nimbosa, not damocles gulf.

Deadshot wrote:BT are too complicated to use from the start.6+ invulnerables,but no cover,but if you're playing 750pts+ you must get this guy,gut he doesn't count as an HQ slot,unless he is your only HQ,then he does.

Complicated?Yes.

SM are the face of 40k,not Sisters.It will be Vanillas vs either Chaos or Eldar.

Given the rumours, Eldar is one of the least likely Xenos. Not only are the Xeno (which the rumours say won't feature in the set), but they are currently in good shape and not looking like they'll get a 5th edition codex at all. The races in the box set will be from a codex with a release close to the new edition. Additionally, GW has over-used codex space marines (vanillas) and there's other space marine chapters which will be released in closer proximity to the new edition. I'd personally rate Tau as significantly more likely than Eldar to feature, if we even get a xeno in there.
(Just like how I'd rate it highly likely the Tau will, with the next codex, become a much larger player in the world with significantly more planets - just like how Dark Eldar suddenly multiplied by a factor of magnitude in numbers with the latest codex)

1hadhq wrote:
And Tau vs BT would hint at Nimbosa, not damocles gulf.

Black Templars were present at the Damocles Crusade and fought the Tau there...

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
And Tau vs BT would hint at Nimbosa, not damocles gulf.

Black Templars were present at the Damocles Crusade and fought the Tau there...

Not alone there and a starter box wouldn't feature a crusade.

Why should any Templar brother want his "knights in space" as a starter army?

.....vs Tau so you can re-enact the fight against the brown clad desert dwellers?

1hadhq wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
And Tau vs BT would hint at Nimbosa, not damocles gulf.

Black Templars were present at the Damocles Crusade and fought the Tau there...

Not alone there and a starter box wouldn't feature a crusade.

Why should any Templar brother want his "knights in space" as a starter army?

.....vs Tau so you can re-enact the fight against the brown clad desert dwellers?

They weren't alone at Nimbosa either...
I'm still split as to whether I'd like a Templars starter box. Part of me says "NEW CODEX AND SHINIES WHOO!", another part says "Templars as FotM Boo!".