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Welcome to Dakka! Just remember there's always gonna be haters. I feel bad for people who don't choose an army they like because they think that they'll be berated. Plus, no one is stopping you from playing two armies!

Welcome, don't listen to anything the haters say because as said before they're just poor sports.

They are just mad because they don't nice shiny blue power armor.

I can't remember ever seeing an introduction thread 3 pages long.

Said it before but may as well say it again since I'm posting... welcome to Dakka. How's your stay been so far?

I find that if you get discouraged at the beginning of your hobby then you never get to truly experience it. If people get annoyed at your use of marines, simply ignore them.

Welcome, by the way.

I think Marines appear far too much and generally spoil the immersion of the Hobby by diluting the variety of armies we have out there.

Having said that what serious players don't own at least one Marine-derivative? Hell, *three* of my five armies are Marine-based... so really for me to go whining would be hypocritical.

At the end of the day, Marines have fantastic fluff and get most of GW's attention; meaning more new codices, sexy models 'n' general hype. People are drawn (and pushed) to them when they start out and it's all with good reason; they make money.

So whilst it may be irritating at times to see so many Marines gracing our tables, they're cool to many people (myself included) and what kind of elitist would deny people the pleasure of partaking in said coolness? We all want to own our own little pieces of the 40k universe and Marines are a large part of that. Hell Marines were my first new army when I came back to the hobby because they effectively are the poster boys of 40k and definitely the coolest force in DoW 2 (my reason for starting again). They were even awesome to read about until I realised that they totally lack personalities beyond a few templates in most BL Novels

Hell I don't think I'd be able to play if people told me to rid myself of the Imperium altogether... I'd just be left with 750pts of Eldar

I can't believe people are giving you a hard time for using the Black Reach box, the people you play with must never play competitively, because you are NOT power-building whatsoever, if you like your space marines, play them, don't let people hating (whining) push you away, because you are not over the top in any way, so go out, and play your black reach to beat them.

There is nothing wrong with using space marines so dont listen to them. the reason i say this is because everyone has a choice on who they want to play as.

Tbh people should just refer Space Marine haters to this:

It pains me to agree with the "haters", but I dislike playing against vanilla marines over and over. As you plan on switching to BT, I fully support your use of adjusted marines to shake up gameplay. Welcome to Dakka!

people who berate others for their army choice are immature and best, just ignorant and stupd at worst. do whatever you want and who cares what you play as long as you are enjoying it.

sennacherib wrote:people who berate others for their army choice are immature and best, just ignorant and stupd at worst. do whatever you want and who cares what you play as long as you are enjoying it.

Exactly! I started with Ultramarines, and guess what? I STILL play Ultramarines. On that same note note, I dont see them being "over powered". Every single army has its weakness, just have to find them.

I think the main qualm against space marines (And I'd like to preface this by saying I play BA and we are very op) is that they are GW's favored child. They are the noob tube of 40k as it were. It's considered the sign of an inexperienced or a waac sort of player now, because the space marines are always up to date, are always in the top teir in one form or another, and thus always have an advantage over non SM armies. Plus, while most other armies get only 1 codex (even armies as diverse as IG, with dozens upon millions upon trillions of worlds with unique armies and fighting styles) the space marines have Dark Angels, Grey Knights, Vanilla Marines (with HQs to play as other chapters), Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Black Templars. So in essence they have almost as many codecies just for their different chapters as there are other armies in the game. Because of all this, there are always going to be SM armies at any tournament, and at any game store (FLGS or GW direct) because they're just so common...while other armies may not appear even after they get a new codex (I am still the only Tau player at my FLGS...). So many players tire of being constantly bombarded with SM armies, and grow to dislike people who play them out of a sense of frustration.

That said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing space marines. In fact, pretty much anyone who has played 40k has played as a space marine army at one point or another, be it testing assault on black reach, the battle of macragge, a friendly game, or what have you. So all those people who are berating you and belittling you are likely space marine players or have been in the past, and so have no grounds to insult you because you wanted to play an army you like.

The one exception to this (the exception that proves the rule if you will) is someone who plays SM because he's TFG. You know, the one who has to win, and then rub it in your face when he does. Then people have a right to be cross with you (royal you) for playing SM. But I doubt you play like that so it probably doesn't apply here