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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 18:25:10
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Man those are some nice looking walls. Prohibitively expensive (like when I spend 360 at Forgeworld, it will be on a Tital) but very nice. But terrain like that makes me feel the game board is much, much smaller than it really is. Just me?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 18:28:10
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I think the kits look great, but even without them the ruleset seems really fun. I'm excited to try them out and bring another gaming option into 40k. Even one or two sets at the center of a standard table would be fun for a new objective based mission.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 18:28:18
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Anpu-adom wrote:*sarcasm* WHAT? Don't you have a reclusive, millionaire, 40k addict in your town?*/sarcasm*
Well, he's not a recluse, but... Yeah.
He's on vacation at the moment, but we'll be gaming again on 3/10!
Anpu-adom wrote:600 pounds would be the price to make a full 4'x6' table using 6 sets.
To be fair, it's 540 GBP (the link has them listed @ 90 GBP each. That's just about $860 USD right now.
I could see many gamers getting this, actually... Maybe not all at once, but...
Anpu-adom wrote: I think that a table made up of the same 4 elements repeated 6 times would get rather... boring. If you want to go that direction, there are other manufacturers that are producing modular pieces. Heck! There are dungeon tile sets (for RPG's, etc) that you can print off on the computer, fold, and play (Complete with line-of-sight blocking walls and doors, etc!)
I am excited to see what else Forgeworld comes up with. 'Nid Hive? Necron Tomb? Sister's Monastery? There would be quite the number of sets that they could produce
I'm in semi-agreement re: boring. I think you could do enough unique arrangements, between tile placement and rotation, that you could break things up nicely. That said, I WOULD like to see 2 to 4 more options available.
I agree that this could lead to some VERY COOL expansions... that I doubt they'll ever do. : (
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 18:29:19
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Regular Dakkanaut
Massachusetts
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Panic wrote:yeah,
but ... again ... I do want...
I agree.
I love these pieces and may start saving up for a year from now when I can afford a full table!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:13:10
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I like them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:36:39
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Looks pretty cool but.. way too rich for my blood :( For the kinda money you need for a full board I think I would have rather see em invest in plastic, I'm sure they'd sell bazillions if they did.. or maybe try laser cut wood or something like that. I think I'd rather put the money toward the reaver titan I'll never be able to afford.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:36:40
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Hm. Well, the terrain isn't as impressive as it was in my head, but I really like the idea of expanding on Space Hulk's theme. Hopefully they'll significantly support this with more varied terrain options in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:39:21
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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While nice looking indeed, it is a wee bit too expensive for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:44:00
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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Chalk up another reason I love the boys at forgeworld
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:47:47
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Great looking, but low on the priority list: with something like that, I'd feel obligated to justify it with a nice paint job, which would mean spending time painting scenery and take even longer to finish painting my armies...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:49:02
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The terrain looks great, but is pretty pricey.
I've only had time to skim the rules, but they look like they'd be fun to try.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:55:44
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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MightyGodzilla wrote: ...But terrain like that makes me feel the game board is much, much smaller than it really is. Just me?
I like how wide the corridors are. I think the walls are a little taller than I'd expect, but then again...
A SM in armor is like 10' tall, so the walls seem to be about 35' scale. Most buildings (here in North America), are 8'-10' (and the people are about 6'). There are plenty of rooms that have ceilings that are in the 20' range (which would the same scale as the terrain).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:56:03
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Decent terrain and some decent rules. Looks pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:56:46
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I immediately downloaded the rules for this. Thanks for the heads-up!
I always thought a Space Hulk (actually if you are an oldie, Space Crusade)- esque board would be great for playing 40K on. Especially small skirmishes like Kill Team (or some of the similar skirmish rules out there, small 500 pt games, and the like.
If anyone wants to spend alot less than the Forgeworld stuff, and doesn't mind paper-crafting a board, try a set like this:
http://www.fatdragongames.com/fdgfiles/sci-fi/e-z-future-deluxe-edition-fdg0092
Walls, working doors, a couple versions of a shuttle (boarding shuttle entry zones!), etc.
It'll run you 10 bucks for a PDF, and you can print to your hearts content. They are also 'layered' PDF's, so you actually choose what details you want on the terrain before printing. I've done this many times, you can even link the walls together sturdily with bobby-pins up from below.
Worldworks games has a ton of stuff that would work for this, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 20:31:03
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Anpu-adom wrote:A SM in armor is like 10' tall, so the walls seem to be about 35' scale. Most buildings (here in North America), are 8'-10' (and the people are about 6'). There are plenty of rooms that have ceilings that are in the 20' range (which would the same scale as the terrain).
A SM in armor is 7ft tall:
Note that the marine is floating 1 foot off the ground for no reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 21:15:27
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:Anpu-adom wrote:A SM in armor is like 10' tall, so the walls seem to be about 35' scale. Most buildings (here in North America), are 8'-10' (and the people are about 6'). There are plenty of rooms that have ceilings that are in the 20' range (which would the same scale as the terrain). A SM in armor is 7ft tall: Note that the marine is floating 1 foot off the ground for no reason. Not going to get into a pissing contest here, but it doesn't invalidate my ratios. A SM in armor is like 7' tall, so the walls seem to be about 25' scale. Most buildings (here in North America), are 8'-10' (and the people are about 6'). There are plenty of rooms that have ceilings that are in the 20' range (which would the same scale as the terrain).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 21:25:58
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:Anpu-adom wrote:A SM in armor is like 10' tall, so the walls seem to be about 35' scale. Most buildings (here in North America), are 8'-10' (and the people are about 6'). There are plenty of rooms that have ceilings that are in the 20' range (which would the same scale as the terrain).
A SM in armor is 7ft tall:
Note that the marine is floating 1 foot off the ground for no reason.
Your perspective is off. The bottom of that poster is actually touching the floor. At least it better be, otherwise Jes has the most powerful ankles known to man and is balancing his ass 10 inches off the floor for no particular reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 21:36:14
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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FYI: Each board is 1'x1'. There are 9 6 squares on each side. That means each square is ~1.3" 2" wide, or about 34mm 50mm. So a terminator on a 40mm base would not be able to stand on one of the squares. The Creative Gamescapes pieces linked up thread are 1.75" wide, or about 44mm, wide enough for a terminator. The total 4-piece set includes 99 45 "wall" spaces and 225 99 "empty" spaces. Here's the layout for each: edit: Nevermind. See below for my mistake On a per-unit-area basis, these are a better worse deal than Creative Gamescapes. However Also, they're not nearly as customizable (you could get 4 modular systems for the price of 1 ForgeWorld section) and you're limited to tetris shapes. Creative Gamescapes would allow for much longer corridors and a broader array of layouts, although you would have more wasted space on a table. Just using Creative Gamescapes as an example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 22:26:12
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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MagickalMemories wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:600 pounds would be the price to make a full 4'x6' table using 6 sets.
To be fair, it's 540 GBP (the link has them listed @ 90 GBP each. That's just about $860 USD right now.
I could see many gamers getting this, actually... Maybe not all at once, but...
...
Eric
I thought it was 90 pounds for 4 -1x1 sections... meaning a total 2x2 play area... requiring 2 more sets (3 total) to get a 6x4 play area... that would weigh in at 270 pounds and 428 USD
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and yes, while expensive, I think being able to get a functional 2x2 environment for 147$ base might be nice to start, or even use it in Deathwatch...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 22:27:50
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Dogged Kum
Houston Texas
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biccat wrote:FYI:
Each board is 1'x1'. There are 9 squares on each side. That means each square is ~1.3" wide, or about 34mm. So a terminator on a 40mm base would not be able to stand on one of the squares. The Creative Gamescapes pieces linked up thread are 1.75" wide, or about 44mm, wide enough for a terminator.
The total 4-piece set includes 99 "wall" spaces and 225 "empty" spaces.
Here's the layout for each:
On a per-unit-area basis, these are a better deal than Creative Gamescapes. However, they're not nearly as customizable (you could get 4 modular systems for the price of 1 ForgeWorld section) and you're limited to tetris shapes. Creative Gamescapes would allow for much longer corridors and a broader array of layouts, although you would have more wasted space on a table.
Just using Creative Gamescapes as an example.
The tiles are 6 squares to a side, not 9. You are basing your 9 squares a side on a pic that is made from 3x3 tiles, not the 2x2 that comes in the package deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 22:31:01
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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[DCM]
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biccat wrote:FYI:
Each board is 1'x1'. There are 9 squares on each side. That means each square is ~1.3" wide, or about 34mm. So a terminator on a 40mm base would not be able to stand on one of the squares. The Creative Gamescapes pieces linked up thread are 1.75" wide, or about 44mm, wide enough for a terminator.
Just using Creative Gamescapes as an example.
That was a great and fair comparison. After using the Creative Gamescapes pieces, the customization options are pretty endless. I think the walls are way too uniform here but I guess that was a design decision due to the way they crafted the tiles. Regardless of price, it's a pass from me. I think someone could make a more impressive board just using the creative pieces for hallways and a bit of elbow grease/work/ COD bits for the main rooms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 22:39:52
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Lord of the Fleet
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Seems very expensive for single use but I can see clubs/etc splitting up costs for some
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 22:42:37
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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Fallen668 wrote:The tiles are 6 squares to a side, not 9. You are basing your 9 squares a side on a pic that is made from 3x3 tiles, not the 2x2 that comes in the package deal.
Ah, you're right. I don't know why they put that 3x3 out there. Plus, the layouts make a lot more sense (corner, 3-way intersection, 4-way intersection, room) now. So the squares are 2" wide (50mm), which would be good for terminators. But it also means you're only getting 99 free squares (45 walls). Creative Gamescapes is 43 squares for about 1/4 the price. Edited post above: the comparison is now much worse for Forgeworld. Frankly, I was surprised to find they were so competitive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 23:01:09
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Revarien wrote:
I thought it was 90 pounds for 4 -1x1 sections... meaning a total 2x2 play area... requiring 2 more sets (3 total) to get a 6x4 play area... that would weigh in at 270 pounds and 428 USD
**EDIT**
and yes, while expensive, I think being able to get a functional 2x2 environment for 147$ base might be nice to start, or even use it in Deathwatch...
Your math's off.
It's 90 GBP for the 2x2 section but, if you only bought 3, you'd have enough for a 6x2 section. That's only half a board.
Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 23:14:29
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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these would be awsome if they were perhaps £10 each. Very space hulk/crusade, the blips etc. I love that you can march a squad down the corridors. The only reason GW wouldn't bring these out mass produced is that you can't really play alot of models a side, and not big ones at that so they would sell alot less if it got popular. Bad business practice.
Gonna build my own as its awsome, I think the 4x4 size is best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 02:52:15
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
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Hmm...
$600-ish on three editions of Space Hulk
$100 on two copies of FFG's Doom.
I use them all the time.
Some 800 for a 6x4 table of resin stuff... hard to store... need to paint and build it...
Nope. As much of a GW terrain junkie as I am, I'll pass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 04:25:52
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Hmmm, cool idea, but too expensive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 05:18:08
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Battleship Captain
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Very disappointed, wanted to give it a go instead I found it too expensive for what you get, as usual too gothic imperial and the texture is wrong, too plain, but then I was thinking more Space Hulk with metal walls for ships, bunkers than building interiors.
Also I think that for the price FW could have added some bits to enliven the board. Hirst Arts ( http://www.hirstarts.com/scifi/scifi3.html) can give better sci-fi variety for less money even if you have to cast the pieces yourself.
M.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 06:08:47
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Lord of the Fleet
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Sorry, my reaction on seeing these was something like 'Oh, they're moving in on Dwarven Forge turf!'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 06:12:24
Subject: Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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MagickalMemories wrote:Revarien wrote:
I thought it was 90 pounds for 4 -1x1 sections... meaning a total 2x2 play area... requiring 2 more sets (3 total) to get a 6x4 play area... that would weigh in at 270 pounds and 428 USD
**EDIT**
and yes, while expensive, I think being able to get a functional 2x2 environment for 147$ base might be nice to start, or even use it in Deathwatch...
Your math's off.
It's 90 GBP for the 2x2 section but, if you only bought 3, you'd have enough for a 6x2 section. That's only half a board.
Eric
Oh derp... you're right... wow... lame on my part... that is what happens when I just do partial-maths in between work-calls, lol.
well drat... I was possibly going to get some too... but geez... I could justify 428, but I don't think I could justify much more... lol.
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I am however going to build my own set out of foam board I think >.> I do like the rules!
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