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I think the price is ok - for a 3 x 3 it comes out at just over £200 which I think is pretty good. Problem is you have to paint them and that would take a little while - it took me three months to paint a land raider so I would be on this project until the end of time lol

yeah I was think the same thing too.

Im on the fence now, looks good but now I realise that the original picture was more than one set and the partitions are not demountable I'm less keen. I think it does lend itself to stacking and storing though.

More than a couple of sets takes it into a big FW kit territory or a straight choice between one kit and an old skool landraider.

A recent hefty tax rebate makes this tempting but I'm not sure the associated kick in the nuts from the mrs is worth it?

Ahhh!

Breotan wrote:

MasterSlowPoke wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:A SM in armor is like 10' tall, so the walls seem to be about 35' scale. Most buildings (here in North America), are 8'-10' (and the people are about 6'). There are plenty of rooms that have ceilings that are in the 20' range (which would the same scale as the terrain).

A SM in armor is 7ft tall:



Note that the marine is floating 1 foot off the ground for no reason.

Your perspective is off. The bottom of that poster is actually touching the floor. At least it better be, otherwise Jes has the most powerful ankles known to man and is balancing his ass 10 inches off the floor for no particular reason.

No, he means it's floating 1ft in the air because the graph starts at 1ft. It should be starting at 0ft. When you measure your height, you start at 0. So while it says 8ft at the top, it's actually 7ft, since it starts 1 1ft.

Hmm, after looking at the pics I may give this one a miss. While it is nice, I was hoping for a bit more variety among the tiles as they all look the same to me.

No matter, the rules should be fun to try out!

Saw at WH today, nice, but too rich even for my blood, not shelling out that much on shiny terrain!

Commander Cain wrote:... While it is nice, I was hoping for a bit more variety among the tiles as they all look the same to me...

yeah,
IMO this is so you don't spot the same feature repeated every fourth tile.
I think the variation is good enough to make unique layouts.
I think the 'blank' hallways are great since you can customise tiles for the variety you crave.

If I get this I'll buy a 3x3 square for now and wait for new tiles to launch and get those to expand.
still debating the price tag £205 in my head...

I really think the should have 3x3, 4x4 and 4x6 bundel deals that include doors.
I mentioned this on their Facebook page.

Panic...

I like the Forgeworld tiles because they are pretty, but they lack anything that would make a game interesting, like doors, or large rooms.

I talked with my buddy and we both think I should use the Fat Dragon games tiles I posted earlier, and just set it up like a Space Hulk game.

As in, floors only (no walls, that gets hard to store and to set up) on a black sheet of fabric. I'll just use the door sections as they have a good thickness to them so they will stand by themselves, and span a 2" walkway with a nice retractable door function. I'll probably also kitbash the doors too by making them wider in the center and taller, so larger models like Dreads can move through, and more than one infantry trooper abreast.

I think the 3x3 at £200 could work TBH. One of the things I like about this is the fact that I can just about fit it on my dining room table and dont need a 6x4 Space (Which I dont have and thus precludes me from 40k at my place)

If anyone buys it can you post up some before and after?

It looks like overpriced heroclix terrain...

And the floor grid is gonna allow total pre-measuring.

No thanks.

Nobody seems to be asking the big question.

What is the size of a 2 hour game?

There is probably going to be a formula of X number of points per square foot of table space.

So if the answer were to be a standard game is 4 square feet played over about 2 hours that means the game would take about 30 minutes per square foot and the breakdown would go as follows

2 by 2 =4 square feet=2 hours
3 by 3 =9 square feet=4.5 hours
4 by 4==16 square feet=8 hours
4 by 6= 24 square feet= 12 hours

So if the answer is a standard game is intended to be played out on 4 square feet the cost of the game won't be that high.

If a standard game 2-3 hour game is intended to be played out on 9 square feet the cost of the game is going to be through the roof unless 3rd party terrain is used instead.

I can see everyone in our gaming group getting 1-2 tiles and then combing them into a large table, but other than that the price tag is a bit high.

schadenfreude wrote:Nobody seems to be asking the big question.

What is the size of a 2 hour game?

There is probably going to be a formula of X number of points per square foot of table space.

So if the answer were to be a standard game is 4 square feet played over about 2 hours that means the game would take about 30 minutes per square foot and the breakdown would go as follows

2 by 2 =4 square feet=2 hours
3 by 3 =9 square feet=4.5 hours
4 by 4==16 square feet=8 hours
4 by 6= 24 square feet= 12 hours

So if the answer is a standard game is intended to be played out on 4 square feet the cost of the game won't be that high.

If a standard game 2-3 hour game is intended to be played out on 9 square feet the cost of the game is going to be through the roof unless 3rd party terrain is used instead.

I can tell you this. I've played three games already. One on a 3X3 with 500 points, and two on a 3x4 with 750. Playing on 3x3 kinda sucks, because the terrain usually has only one path from point A to B, which essentially just turns in to five assault phases / kill points. 3x3 500 took about 20 minutes for five turns, and it was pointless to continue. The 3x4 750 games took 45 minutes and an hour. After these, it's starting to look like 4x4 with 850 or 1,000 will be the golden ticket.

And speaking of your own terrain: Total cost was around $39. We didn't do anything besides making the basic shapes because, well, we wanted to make sure it didn't suck before we put more time into it! A few more test games, and then real terrain!

You could try foamcore instead of Dow Board. Little less bulky to deal with.

Then get some of these (top of page): http://www.foamwerks.com/tools/accessories/

And you can make it completely modular by clipping the edges together temporarily.

They may make larger bundles once they start adding more tiles. If they add a control center tile, they could then do a 3x3 bundle of 2x Alpha through Delta, and one of the new tile. Two new tiles, and they could do a 4x4 with 3X of Alpha through Delta, and 2X of New tile A and 2X New tile B.

CT GAMER wrote:And the floor grid is gonna allow total pre-measuring.

Seriously? You’re worried about pre-measuring in a game that’s on such a small scale? That bothers you?

Ozymandias wrote:I can see everyone in our gaming group getting 1-2 tiles and then combing them into a large table, but other than that the price tag is a bit high.

That's actually something I've considered as well. It seems like the kind of thing that would be a "group investment".

Ozymandias wrote:I can see everyone in our gaming group getting 1-2 tiles and then combing them into a large table, but other than that the price tag is a bit high.

That right there? THAT'S why I miss the CCMG group.

If we did this in my group today, it would just turn into me and the LtCol each buying 2 of the 2x2 sets.

The rules look totally badass. Cue stray bolter rounds bursting Navy stormtrooper carapace open, sending them spinning away in a cloud of hissing gas and atomized blood...

I guess DE splinter weapons can't take advantage of the Cold Void to rend? Nor can lasguns (or hellguns). And if any army is going to succumb to Blind Panic, it'll be Guard. Better have your Commissars ready. And there's always getting some Earthshakers to really earn their name.

Poor Tau, too - barely anything we have has an I higher than 2! So much for cordon-and-search with pulse carbine and photon grenade. But Tau Jump Packs cleverly avoid having to take dangerous terrain tests for moving - aw yeah.

They'll probably need to FAQ it so that Seeker Missiles don't teleport through walls.

Nope, they run the corridors ala "Runaway" :-)

sgt_easton wrote:

schadenfreude wrote:Nobody seems to be asking the big question.

What is the size of a 2 hour game?

There is probably going to be a formula of X number of points per square foot of table space.

So if the answer were to be a standard game is 4 square feet played over about 2 hours that means the game would take about 30 minutes per square foot and the breakdown would go as follows

2 by 2 =4 square feet=2 hours
3 by 3 =9 square feet=4.5 hours
4 by 4==16 square feet=8 hours
4 by 6= 24 square feet= 12 hours

So if the answer is a standard game is intended to be played out on 4 square feet the cost of the game won't be that high.

If a standard game 2-3 hour game is intended to be played out on 9 square feet the cost of the game is going to be through the roof unless 3rd party terrain is used instead.

I can tell you this. I've played three games already. One on a 3X3 with 500 points, and two on a 3x4 with 750. Playing on 3x3 kinda sucks, because the terrain usually has only one path from point A to B, which essentially just turns in to five assault phases / kill points. 3x3 500 took about 20 minutes for five turns, and it was pointless to continue. The 3x4 750 games took 45 minutes and an hour. After these, it's starting to look like 4x4 with 850 or 1,000 will be the golden ticket.

This is also confirmed in the PDF rules:

Because Zone Mortalis actions are fought in quite dense terrain, and without the assistance of transport vehicles to get around, a smaller gaming area can often improve the experience of play. As such it is recommended that a 4' x 4' area is used for games of 1,000 pts a side or less (which will offer an exciting battle lasting an hour or two), while larger tables are best used as part of team games.

sgt_easton wrote:And speaking of your own terrain: Total cost was around $39. We didn't do anything besides making the basic shapes because, well, we wanted to make sure it didn't suck before we put more time into it! A few more test games, and then real terrain!

yeah,
this is great!

Has anyone sighted top down Jpegs/PDFs of the FW tiles A B D G we can print out to test?

Panic...

Forgeworld just posted this on fb, at least theyre strong

We used to play this at gamesday and the Baltimore bunker a decade ago... There was a giant 6x6 board where it was basically foam walls like sgt_easton's photo and the floor was all made of upside down 50mm bases so it looked like a bunch of circles. Painted up it was really neat.

Sweet Jebus these are cool. I'm digging the rules. I'll definitely give these rules a test spin with Space Hulk tiles before committing to a set of these.

Just as an FYI:

It was asked today on FW's Facebook page when the doors would be released.

The answer is within the next few weeks. So hold off on orders if you wanted to order a board, as the doors are coming soon.

Spoke to Ead while he was on the FW stand at doubles, it will be a single large blast door or two small ones in the packs. They are mighty fine pieces, with a base plus sides with runners for the doors. The board sections that FW have painted up look fantastic too.

Most likely, I'll be getting these when the doors are released as well. I like that it makes for a smallish gaming table for quick games.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Forgeworld just posted this on fb, at least theyre strong

If I saw someone standing on my terrain, they'd get kicked squarely in the babymaker.

++ Doors incoming in the next few weeks.

- - Way too pricey for anything less than a group investment.

I would rather see a terrain set where the set walls were not part of the floor so you could make your own patterns. Maybe the floor would have some premade notching so the walls, cornerpieces, intersections, doorways, etc would go into the spots keeping everything straight but at the same time letting you choose width of halls and demensions of rooms. That and a few snazzy type rooms (ie C & C room, etc) to round out the set.

Anything like that out by other companies?

Those rules look awesome!!

Luckily I invested wisely and bought several complete Space Hulk tile sets on Ebay when folks were vending the figs but letting everything else in the box go for a song.