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Nice - good to see the ship-to-ship boarding rules finally being expanded - something that 40k should focus more on really.
It'd be nice to play games of BFG and during the critical parts of the game (board the planet killer/blackstone fortress/Ramilies Starfort) you board the ship and have to destroy a crucial generator or some such.
The board itself does seem expensive for what you get though :( So much for hollow resin supposed cheaper to produce line. £800 for a full 8x4 game board. Ouch. Though the cheaper products look nice.
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2012/02/24 12:53:59
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
Commander Cain wrote:If these look anything like what I am imagining my wallet it going to hate me!
IS this really gonna be worth the investment?
People played Apoc., Planetstrike and COD for about ten minutes total and forgot about them, and you didn't even have t buy specialty board tiles for those...
zedmeister wrote:Nice - good to see the ship-to-ship boarding rules finally being expanded - something that 40k should focus more on really.
It'd be nice to play games of BFG and during the critical parts of the game (board the planet killer/blackstone fortress/Ramilies Starfort) you board the ship and have to destroy a crucial generator or some such.
The board itself does seem expensive for what you get though :( So much for hollow resin supposed cheaper to produce line. £800 for a full 8x4 game board. Ouch. Though the cheaper products look nice.
Amusingly, a boarding action/starship combat supplement was first touted by GW twenty-four years ago, in the introduction to The Book of the Astronomicon. It's good to see that it pays to be patient.
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His Master's Voice wrote:I like how reaction fire reads almost exactly like defensive fire from Pancake edition.
I noticed you noticing.
Yes, I expect this and some of the special rules from Apoc 2 will be making their way into the main book (along with flyers). It also makes a lot of sense with the way Necron Deathmarks work.
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linnear wrote:
Not sure where you get 800 pounds as the price. The price listed is £98 , which is about $ 155.
zedmeister wrote:...So much for hollow resin supposed cheaper to produce line. £800 for a full 8x4 game board. Ouch. Though the cheaper products look nice....
Hence why I gave the caveat 'if the price stated above is correct' - I assume the £800 is calculated from 8 lots of 2 ft square tiles making up the 8 x 4 board. I would imagine that even Forgeworld would not be expecting someone to buy the full set.
Yeah these look very boring with some of the other terrain swimming around the forum. Still the rules look they may make for a good game, don't think the terrain is worth the money by some distance.
filbert wrote:Surely even the most fanatical of GW/40K aficionados would baulk at paying ~£800 for the board tiles (assuming that price is correct)?
Make you wonder exactly who Forgeworld are aiming this at? Reclusive, millionaire 40K addicts?
Not sure where you get 800 pounds as the price. The price listed is £98 , which is about $ 155.
*sarcasm* WHAT? Don't you have a reclusive, millionaire, 40k addict in your town?*/sarcasm*
600 pounds would be the price to make a full 4'x6' table using 6 sets. I think that a table made up of the same 4 elements repeated 6 times would get rather... boring. If you want to go that direction, there are other manufacturers that are producing modular pieces. Heck! There are dungeon tile sets (for RPG's, etc) that you can print off on the computer, fold, and play (Complete with line-of-sight blocking walls and doors, etc!)
I am excited to see what else Forgeworld comes up with. 'Nid Hive? Necron Tomb? Sister's Monastery? There would be quite the number of sets that they could produce.
As far as the rules, I especially like the 'blip' mechanic... I proposed a Necron mission that used a similar technique to represent buried, awakening Necron units.
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Even presuming a 4' x 4' table would be sufficient, £400 is still a hefty sum for a single table of scenery, particularly given the alternative of Spaceship X's much cheaper (and still rather impressive-looking) sets (or, for that matter, the cost-free alternative of using Space Hulk tiles). The Forge World boards will have to look very nice indeed to get any serious consideration from me. A shame, since the rules look well-realised, and Warhammer 40,000 could do with a skirmish-sized game to suit people like me who lack the time for full-scale battles.
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If they did a nice gothic starship interior as opposed to the one that is a copy of Space Hulk they may have something.
In 40k these ships are supposed to be works of art.
It really looks like movable portions because that's what the rules emphasize and the separation between the questionably-casted resin pieces is blatantly noticeable.
There's a nice little decorated/detailed impression where you could easily glue magnets, though.
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2012/02/24 16:44:38
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
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2012/02/24 16:45:00
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
Video from Forge World about them, I think they look pretty cool, and at £98, not quite as over the top as I might have otherwise expected.... Hell, I might even get me a set
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forgeworld wrote:Hi there,
We have some amazing additions to our terrain range to tell you about in this week’s newsletter as well as details of a new Warhammer 40,000 experimental rules expansion, available to download now from our website, which allows players to enter the brutal and vicious battlefields of the Zone Mortalis.
Realm of Battle Zone Mortalis Complex
The cities and starships of the Imperium are often ancient and crumbing edifices, constructed in ages past from prefabricated STC designs from the Dark Age of Technology. In a galaxy beset by war any building or corridor may be pressed into service as a strongpoint. Abrupt corners and shadowed alcoves typify the interior workspaces, while the narrow corridors and indeed larger internal rooms can be sealed off by great plasteel blast doors.
The Realm of Battle Zone Mortalis Alpha Complex, Beta Complex, Delta Complex and Gamma Complex are each 1' x 1' (300mm x 300mm) tiles that are fully compatible and interchangeable with each other. These detailed hollow resin tiles, designed by Blake Spence, are perfect for playing games using the Zone Mortalis Warhammer 40,000 Expansion rules, a link to which is provided later in this newsletter.
The Realm of Battle Zone Mortalis Set contains all four of the individual tiles, allowing for a huge range of possible corridor arrangements covering a total area of 2' x 2' (600mm x 600mm).
This new scenery range is infinitely expandable, and we plan to release more tiles and interior scenery pieces in the near future. We will also be releasing two sets of removable blast doors to accompany these new terrain tiles in the next few weeks.
These fantastically detailed terrain pieces are available to order now for immediate despatch, and to illustrate the awesomeness of the Zone Mortalis scenery, we’ve recorded a video to give you a closer look at them.
Warhammer 40,000 'Zone Mortalis' Expansion
Forge World is proud to present a brand new experimental rules expansion, dealing with some of the most savage arenas of combat conceivable in the Warhammer 40,000 universe; the battlefields the Codex Tactica Imperialis refers to as ‘Zone Mortalis’ - the fatal ground. Such areas, be they the contested decks of a void warship, tangled mine works, lightless underhives or sacred catacombs, all have a confluence of factors in common. They are closely confined, provide limited opportunity for ambushes or escape routes, as well as oft-times being treacherous, warp-tainted or toxic beyond the limits of the mortal condition.
These rules offer the chance to fight desperate battles of your own on such deadly ground and draw heavily upon the Boarding Assault rules previously published in Imperial Armour Volume 9: The Badab War Part One, and the feedback we have had from players. Zone Mortalis battles are unashamedly fatal and chaotic affairs (as fighting in a collapsing hive city under mass artillery bombardment, or on a burning star vessel in the middle of a space battle ought to be!).
Forge World Events News:
Forge World Open Day 2012, 1st April, Warhammer World, Nottingham
Sunday 1st April will see Forge World and Warhammer Forge abandon our top-secret Manufactorum for our annual Open Day. This year’s event is even bigger and better than ever, as we will be taking over not only the Gaming Hall for our Sales stand but also the GW staff restaurant for our Studio staff and their displays.
We’ll be bringing you more details about the event in future newsletters. For now, we can whet your appetite with a few teasers: there will be two brand new participation games and as many of our detailed display boards as we can cram into the Studio area. We also intend to run a ‘Studio Café’ Q&A session in addition to showcasing a vast array of work-in-progress miniatures, future releases and some of the superbly painted models we use in our displays.
Our Sales stand will be packed with a huge selection of resin kits, books and modelling supplies, including a veritable cornucopia of pre-release kits that we’ll be announcing in future newsletters. As always the Open Day will be the first chance to purchase our 2012 Event Only models. We’ve designed both a Warhammer Forge model and a Forge World model once again, and while we can’t tell you what they are just yet, suffice to say we think they’re great!
AdeptiCon 2012, 19th to 22nd April, Westin Lombard Yorktown Center, Chicago
Forge World will again be attending AdeptiCon this year, and we are now accepting reservation orders for this popular event. While we will be bringing a huge selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling products, placing a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we have exactly what you want packed up and waiting for you at the show.
You can either telephone us on 011 44 115 900 4995, or send an e-mail entitled ‘AdeptiCon 2012 Reservation’ to forgeworldreservations@games-workshop.co.uk. We will need your name, a list of the items that you wish to order, and a contact e-mail address for yourself. In the week prior to the event, we will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable, and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
Yeah, I just found them, they're from the sanguinary guard sprues. I've never seen that color scheme for BA before and from that one angle on the devastator... I got all excited. I wish there was some good Blood Ravens pads, I'm not fond of the CHS ones.
But that's a different thread.
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Also, I'm seeing £90 on the FW website for a set of four, not £98.
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2012/02/24 18:12:39
Subject: Re:Forgeworld - Zone Mortalis 40k expansion
£90 get you 4x 1' x 1' tiles (each tile is unique)
each tile is available separatly for £25
so to make this 3'x3' board you need two sets plus one more tile £205
There will also Be the need to buy add ons such as doors... which I think should have been included with the tiles at these prices! More unique tiles to come.
I do expect FW have many millionaire customers as the recommended sizes for games are provided in the PDF. And this is the cost to buy those tables!
3'x3' £205 4'x4' £360 6'x4' £540
but ... again ... I do want...
Panic...
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