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Skriker wrote:

AzureDeath wrote:Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

How sad someone's life has to be to wrap so much of one's self worth around a game and then needing to cheat to try to win at all costs. As long as the game I am playing is entertaining and fun I really don't care if I win or lose, as I am spending time with friends and enjoying myself. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you aren't having fun playing the game, then you are most definitely doing it wrong.

Skriker

That is my moto at our local store. I'm the one who shows up to tournys to have fun, no stress that way. It is also fun watching everyone else sweat. Skriker, you and I are cut from the same cloth. We play mostly at my house now because of that only for fun players allowed and we do almost every sunday for fantasy and monday for 40k.

AzureDeath wrote:That is my moto at our local store. I'm the one who shows up to tournys to have fun, no stress that way. It is also fun watching everyone else sweat. Skriker, you and I are cut from the same cloth. We play mostly at my house now because of that only for fun players allowed and we do almost every sunday for fantasy and monday for 40k.

These are also many of the reasons why I have a 4x8 table in my home. Only have to play with people who I like and not some stranger off the street who is no fun to play. I do play in a local store based Flames of War league, but aside from one player who used to make a habit of looking at his opponent's army before making his own list, the group is really good and despite some competitiveness for bragging rights I always have a good time playing anyone else in the league.

Skriker

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

That just sucks all the fun out of playing...I don't know why people do that, if he thinks about what he could buy with 200 dollars or he could smash the display case.

Doesn't it? The store manager came over to me and took me aside, explaining the whole TFG concept, and that 99.999% of wargamers were nothing like that, and thank god he did. Otherwise, 40k future=crushed.

The other gamers at my FLGS are pretty nice and take me through the game, I have not witnessed a depute where and property was broken as a result. In a game this expensive you can't risk damage to your $50 tactical squad which weeds out most of the irresponsible and unfriendly players. And if you have a bad rep, no one will want to play with you.

How long have you been playing?



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undertow wrote:

Engine of War wrote: I called them out on it but they refused to give me the apoc book to show proof.

They might as well wear a sign that says: "Hey, look at me, I'm cheating!!"

Yea that is, I like to keep the rule books handy for that purpose. And if you "let" him have the rule you can use that as an excuse if you want.

One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

Dayvuni wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

What's going to happen is that a unit can hop out of enemy units, killing them and bypassing Warp Quake.

Then who will have the upper claw? ZOIDBER - I mean, Chaos Daemons.

Ok well here is my story, I'm newb to the game still and have played in only one tournament, and as many games as I can get. I normally play with my friend and my younger brother (I'm 16), our friend is what I have learned to call a, "win at all cost gamer" he runs an IG vendetta/tank list (and will nearly come to tears whenever he loses a vehicle in battle). One instance stands out in my memory, we had just come come to our FLGS and my friend and I set up to play an 1850 game. I play a mech/jumpy blood angels list with predators and 1 LR, He runs with as many vendettas as he can and other tanks. He sets up first, and I go second. I steel the init. and unload in to cover save less flyers, and destroy as many as I can while also moving up my assault marines with meltas. He flips out once his first vendetta hits the ground and starts uttering the most emperor forsaken swears I have ever heard in one sentence. He eventually calms down after he sees everyone staring at him awed by his primal fury. He then goes about his turn, and rolls a one an terrain test for a leman russ, stares at the dice, looks at me, and walks out of the room. I then call out to him, "So did I win?"

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

What's going to happen is that a unit can hop out of enemy units, killing them and bypassing Warp Quake.

Then who will have the upper claw? ZOIDBER - I mean, Chaos Daemons.

My god, a Zoidberg themed army would be amazing

OT, I would hate to see something like that happen. I'd probably pull my army out on the spot and ask the kid if he'd like to play someone who can actually play the game, and try to give him as fair a matchup as I can. I dont get how people find enjoyment in being jerks like that. It cant be fun to just abuse the rules like that.... can it?

MrMoustaffa wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Poor kid, hope he does get the revenge.

What's going to happen is that a unit can hop out of enemy units, killing them and bypassing Warp Quake.

Then who will have the upper claw? ZOIDBER - I mean, Chaos Daemons.

My god, a Zoidberg themed army would be amazing

OT, I would hate to see something like that happen. I'd probably pull my army out on the spot and ask the kid if he'd like to play someone who can actually play the game, and try to give him as fair a matchup as I can. I dont get how people find enjoyment in being jerks like that. It cant be fun to just abuse the rules like that.... can it?

Apparently so.

I play purely for fun. Unfortunately, I'm pretty poor with communication, so I often get stuck with a particular WAAC player at events.

Being blamed for losing 2 games when he has a single scoring unit in an army list of well over 1000pts whilst I had 2 in just over 500 is pretty damned awful.

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Dayvuni wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Yeah, a load of damages. I think he may have even had some anger management classes, not quite sure. That was when I first started showing up at that store, so I wasn't really privy to the whole gossip.

That just sucks all the fun out of playing...I don't know why people do that, if he thinks about what he could buy with 200 dollars or he could smash the display case.

Doesn't it? The store manager came over to me and took me aside, explaining the whole TFG concept, and that 99.999% of wargamers were nothing like that, and thank god he did. Otherwise, 40k future=crushed.

The other gamers at my FLGS are pretty nice and take me through the game, I have not witnessed a depute where and property was broken as a result. In a game this expensive you can't risk damage to your $50 tactical squad which weeds out most of the irresponsible and unfriendly players. And if you have a bad rep, no one will want to play with you.

How long have you been playing?

My first army, 1000 points of Codex Marines, is in the mail. That was back in highschool, when I didn't have time and money, and could merely stand around the LFGS and drool. Oh, good times...

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Ahhhh so nice to see adult players who are incapable of playing a real game against a 12 year old so pull out the warp quake BS on them instead. What a real man that fan guy must be to be able to smack around a 12 year old opponent like that...

I also concur on the later comments as to how is that fun? When I go out to play a game or two that is what I want to do. One turn is not a game.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Ahhhh so nice to see adult players who are incapable of playing a real game against a 12 year old so pull out the warp quake BS on them instead. What a real man that fan guy must be to be able to smack around a 12 year old opponent like that...

I also concur on the later comments as to how is that fun? When I go out to play a game or two that is what I want to do. One turn is not a game.

Skriker

Well, you know those mid 20-somethings who have to keep their perfect record @ 40k going so they can talk-up how awsome they are to the ladies!

After witnessing this travesty, I simply told the poor kid that I'd play him with my own Daemons, maybe show him a trick or two while rolling the worst possible dice rolls he's ever seen, and we could leave the big, bad, awsome GK jerk to go flex his ego to someone else who couldn't give a flying monkey-fart!
This is also one of the terds who would come into the local GW store and curbstomp other young regulars with his 'practice' lists for things like the Warmaster's Challenge and/or 'Ard Boyz.

WAAC's jerks will always be fun-sucking WAAC's jerks.

Im fortunate enough to have never really played against anyone as bad as some of these people. My only real experience with poor sportsmanship happened at the first tournament I played in last year. I was playing a Tau player who spent most of the game whining about how we were playing an annihilation game when his list was more suited to objectives. He also threw a bit of a fit over my "Eldar cheese" despite me playing a very sub-optimal Alaitoc ranger force list. He ended up beating me in the end, due largely to my ridiculously poor dice rolls (I ended up being voted "Most unfortunate player"). Luckily there were no thrown chairs or destroyed models, or even rage quits, just a whole lot of whining.

BrotherGnaeus wrote:Ok well here is my story, I'm newb to the game still and have played in only one tournament, and as many games as I can get. I normally play with my friend and my younger brother (I'm 16), our friend is what I have learned to call a, "win at all cost gamer" he runs an IG vendetta/tank list (and will nearly come to tears whenever he loses a vehicle in battle). One instance stands out in my memory, we had just come come to our FLGS and my friend and I set up to play an 1850 game. I play a mech/jumpy blood angels list with predators and 1 LR, He runs with as many vendettas as he can and other tanks. He sets up first, and I go second. I steel the init. and unload in to cover save less flyers, and destroy as many as I can while also moving up my assault marines with meltas. He flips out once his first vendetta hits the ground and starts uttering the most emperor forsaken swears I have ever heard in one sentence. He eventually calms down after he sees everyone staring at him awed by his primal fury. He then goes about his turn, and rolls a one an terrain test for a leman russ, stares at the dice, looks at me, and walks out of the room. I then call out to him, "So did I win?"

Lol, have you told him its just a game/tank? He has more.

I was playing against a GK player at our FLGS, I usually only play against people I know or close friends of friends (I'm big on having fun, if crap dies it dies). So I was waiting for my buddy, but before he left the house he got some wife AGGRO, so this guy walks up to me and asks to play. We proceed to play (I play IF SM) a 1750 game. Kid has 2 Storm raves and lots of pallies and Draigo, I fielded somewhat of a Mech heavy list, 3 razors, 2 dreads, 1 LR. So he sets up first, I steal init. Focus on one storm raven, drop it. He start complaining that Autos can't hurt the darn thing, even after seeing the Str to Toughness. He finally relents, his turn he blasts the other storm raven towards my direction, and moves his pallies straight foward into some trees. I tell him he has to roll 2 dice to go into cover (he was 1 inch from the trees, so he moved his guys 5 inches in). He blows up saying that only applies to things that are already in cover. Told him to take a chill pill and for the sake of not arguing I let him have it. He shoots his MM from the raven with PoTMS, he whiffs it both times. My turn I drop his stormraven with the dreads, I shot everything else at his terms and charged Lysander with 5 LC/LC terms and a chappie. By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.


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We all have one aswell, my moment of bad sportsmanship was when I was playing my nemesis (everytime this guy walks in we have a geek staredown and we stop what we are doing and start playing a game) he plays Eldar. So to get to the story he was doing his turn, did all his guides and landed and penned every dam shot he did to my LR..... he says "Well young grasshopper, seems like the Fists just got F$)##(." I looked at him and almost just almost threw a die at him, but as the tactical genius that I am, he had over extended to try and take out my LR and terms (since every turn after that I just skirted them around his army and never did actually charge, just used them as a meat shield). I proceeded to melt his face with my razors/dreads and 10 foot slogging sterns, while he just focused on the terms/Lysander.

He was not happy in the end. We shook hands and went to grab a beer and then continued our rivalry.

I, ah, obviously don't play out at the local GW or FLGS enough, because the worst I encountered was this one guy who gloated more than a little when his Uriah-bomb took out his opponent's Chapter Master and Honor Guard which had spent the final month or two of the Witch Hunters codex brutalizing units while withstanding most of what the Sisters could bring to bear on them.

Wait, no, that was me... And I feel terrible about it.

I have another Vassal story to add. Kinda long, if you want to see why my opponent ragequit skip to the HERES

I asked a guy if he wanted to play a 2k point game. He told me he would under no circumstance play me unless i told him what army i was bringing. I told him Dark Eldar, and wrote up a list for Necrons. I expected him to bring some sort of heavy armor type stuff.

My list consisted of roughly 20 warriors, with an orb overlord (phaeron) to give them relentless, another smaller amount of warriors (maybe 14-17) with Imotekh(again for the relentless) and an orb lord 10 deathmarks, a ctan with tranny bolt and pyreshards (love dem pyreshards) and 10 scarabs, and for fun, 10 triarch praetorians with their normal weapons.

Opponent selects the map, one with lots of buildings and rocks. He calls the buildings blos, with 3inches needed to get on top, and the rocks 4+ dt.

Mission and deployment: Annihilation and dawn of war. Roll off init, opponent wins, and chooses me to go first.

We reveal our lists, hes playing dark angels (i think). He has 3 5ish man squads of terminators, 2 land raiders, and 3 venerable dreadnoughts against my "DE" list.
After i revealed my list he didnt talk too much

I say that everything of mine except for the deathmarks and the OL squad is walking on the board. I place my OL squad waaay behind a blos building, giving him no los on them.
Game begins, i walk all my stuff on the board, arranging my scarabs so no matter the angle you target them atleast half are behind blos. Ctan goes far right, praetorians come in far left.
Turn 1b, he drives his LRs on to the board next to each other down the middle walks the noughts in far right, says one of his termie squads is DSing in. Shooting, declares shooting on my scarabs, but i tell him that 2 of his noughts have no los to em, and he (piss'ed offedly) skips attempting to fire his 3rd nought (which has clear los) on them.

Turn 2, move my praetorians, 20 blob of warriors down the right side. Move my scarabs up, i start getting them ready to spring on the noughts.
Turn 2b, He doesnt do much but takes a couple of ineffective pot shots.
Turn 3, end of NF from imotekh, continue moving and keeping my guys in blos, to avoid fire from the LRs and the noughts.
Turn 3b, he brings his termies in, starts to go to roll them next to my 20 blob in a large clear space. I call ethereal interception and hunters from hyperspace so he changes his DS point from there to the other side of the board way away from anything. I Hunters from hyperspace his HQ (inside a LR) and ds my deathmarks in the same spot he was going to ds his termies, i scatter, and end up 8 inches away from my 20 warrior blob. He moves his lr 12 inches, disembarks a termie squad that includes a librarian, shoots into the warriors doing nada, his LR shoots the deathmarks killing three. Assault. He assaults my warriors. He kills 9 warriors, i do nada to him. Roll morale fail, he cant sweep.

HERES
where he ragequit. For my flee, i rolled double 1's. I lol'd hard! I did some quick computing and realized that not only was i going to rally that warrior unit (12 guys left from a 21 man squad) with 22 rf shots and even if i failed that i would still be atleast 11 shots, but my death marks were in RF, and with a 12 inch move, my praetorians would be within 6 of that termie squad and able to fire 10 str 5 ap2 shots into them. In case That didnt clinche it, i had my scarabs actually closer to those termies, and now my OL with MSS was in range to get in b2b. Yeah, he ragequit right there. Im still waiting to see him again


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Not to mention that since I revealed my list the game went on in basic silence

Played someone, he used space wolves...

Basimpo wrote: I told him Dark Eldar, and wrote up a list for Necrons. I expected him to bring some sort of heavy armor type stuff.

You realise that in this story, you were the poor sport?

How am I the poor sport? Because he demanded that I bring a list he could tailor his army to? I mean, there was more conversation than just Hey, what army are you bringing, it was, Hey, what army are you? Ah, so, ill make the room... I said WHAT army are you? So...Youll pick the map? I will NOT play you unless you tell me what army you are bringing!

Tailoring= Poor sportsmanship shenanigans, in my humble opinion.

Basimpo wrote:How am I the poor sport? Because he demanded that I bring a list he could tailor his army to? I mean, there was more conversation than just Hey, what army are you bringing, it was, Hey, what army are you? Ah, so, ill make the room... I said WHAT army are you? So...Youll pick the map? I will NOT play you unless you tell me what army you are bringing!

Tailoring= Poor sportsmanship shenanigans, in my humble opinion.

Are you for real? You agreed to a condition before the game, and then broke it. If you didn't want to play a tailored match, why agree to play a tailored match?

Actually, what was going on is he thought i was a new person and he was hoping to bully someone into an easy victory. As evidenced by him quitting after he won an assault.

Basimpo wrote:Actually, what was going on is he thought i was a new person and he was hoping to bully someone into an easy victory. As evidenced by him quitting after he won an assault.

He thought you were going to be playing a tailored match, and you lied about it. You're lucky he didn't quit in the first turn.

there was a kid at my old club who would rage quit as soon as a unit got killed. this one time he smashed all his marines off the table and stomped his rhino flat XD

he goes to my LGW too but no one plays him because he just moans about how he'll loose the game any way :/

Pouncey wrote:I, ah, obviously don't play out at the local GW or FLGS enough, because the worst I encountered was this one guy who gloated more than a little when his Uriah-bomb took out his opponent's Chapter Master and Honor Guard which had spent the final month or two of the Witch Hunters codex brutalizing units while withstanding most of what the Sisters could bring to bear on them.

Wait, no, that was me... And I feel terrible about it.

Don't worry, unlike some you know you did wrong and you feel bad, that makes it at least forgivable and forgettable unlike some jerks Least that's how i see it

I normally play with my 4 friends when we go to our game store. This one time there were only three of us so we ended up finding this guy at the store to fill the slot. I ended up getting stuck on his team. It was my nids and his orks vs marines and marines (go figure). the first thing that caught my attention was his list. it was chock full of commandos, a fully kitted out nob squad for wound shenanigans, a battle wagon, big mec and some boys. none of our lists were win at all costs lists, for god sakes I had a carnifex. Now let me get this out there, we are by no words new players. we have all been playing since the end of 3rd edition. the marines got first turn and shot some of our stuff. we did what normal nids and orks did and went flat out at them, then the blood talon dread came in in the drop pod... this was second turn and the guy charged it with his nobs and big mec. proceeded to loose over half the squad and pout and complain that it was the most overpowered thing he had ever seen in his life and that my friend should burn all his models. meanwhile he was charging terminators with commandos. by the end of turn 3 he had lost almost everything and was raging. he was telling me i was a horrible teammate for not screening his units, not killing things with shooting (nids?) and then called me a dumb f**k. this whole game he was the biggest rules lawyer too. when turn 4 rolled around my genestealer swarms hit and shredded the marines. he began gloating saying that it was all his doing and that the orks had smashed the g*y marines. I just looked at him and asked "buddy. where are your orks?" after he freaked out and left. after playing this a** hat we learned that nobody will play with him in the store because of stuff like this.

doc1234 wrote:

Pouncey wrote:I, ah, obviously don't play out at the local GW or FLGS enough, because the worst I encountered was this one guy who gloated more than a little when his Uriah-bomb took out his opponent's Chapter Master and Honor Guard which had spent the final month or two of the Witch Hunters codex brutalizing units while withstanding most of what the Sisters could bring to bear on them.

Wait, no, that was me... And I feel terrible about it.

Don't worry, unlike some you know you did wrong and you feel bad, that makes it at least forgivable and forgettable unlike some jerks Least that's how i see it

:: nods :: Thanks.

It doesn't help that it was our first game since after the WD dex came out, and I'd been cackling - I mean that literally, as while describing how slaughterful they are, I would often burst into cackling laughter - around the house about how the DCAs were going to tear the Honor Guard apart in the few days prior to the game - in what little defense there is for me, when I say brutalizing, I mean marching across the field on foot while taking only 1-2 casualties, and then proceeding to kill unit after unit in one round of CC each.

My opponent in that game now plays Orks, and our last game was actually a draw with 0 objectives held by either side, and I didn't take Uriah or a Battle Conclave at all, but I did take Celestine, but only because I love the model and have had it since before the WD dex and had even used her frequently prior to its release.

There was one BA player who went with the dreadnought spam list, and would absolutely cream younger players and those known mainly to play friendly games with his list, which was maxed out for as much competetiveness he could get while still spamming dreadnoughts. After he tabled a new nid player's (and by new I meant like 12-13 years old) army with a crap ton of lawnmower dreads, he laughed and said how full of garbage xeno armies were and told the kid to go buy a real f ing army or go home and go back to sucking like how he sucked at the game. So an old neckbeard veteran ork player pats him on the shoulder and challenges him to a game. The Ork player asked if he could use some IA stuff and the BA player agreed and didn't even bother to ask any further, likely being so full of himself he didn't even bother to check what he meant by "some" IA stuff.

Expecting a green tide list, the aforementioned TFG packed a lot of Blood Talons and when the Annhiliation mission was rolled he had probably the smuggest grin ever. Until he saw the Ork player calmly setting down his lovingly painted Ork IA dreadlist. Probably the funniest moment throughout the whole ordeal was the look on his face as he realized that the Ork player had more walkers than he did. A little less smug but still boasting out loud about how he was going to crush the Orks "rickety pieces of cheap sh , go imperial or go home xeno loving f " Was one thing he said. But then the Deff Dreads proceeded to more or less rip his own Dreadnoughts apart, the Killa kans ran amuck and shot his death company dreads to pieces, and the Mega Deff Dreads ID'd his Dante in one go.

By turn five, he had one Dread with one arm left and he was absolutely fuming, and when the Mega dread punched it out, he flew into the longest, most profanity ladened rant about how the orks were so overpowered and how people who played xeno armies were cheese mongering c s who didn't deserve to play this game and how he should have had it in the bag. He tried to reach over and grab the mega dread model that killed his Dread, but the Manager grabbed him by the shoulder and sent him on his way. Once he was gone, everyone had a rather good laugh and I personally congratulated the Ork player.

I've got to ask, where the hell do you find these people? The absolute worst thing I've experienced are few rules lawyers, pouters, and a couple guys packing it up by turn 2 after getting into a hole they didn't think they could fight out of.

How did the manager let that go on so long? He should have been told to leave and not come back until he can control his mouth. People like him should be sterilized to prevent them from ever creating life. They'll just feth it up.