Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Today At my FLGS I had to witness and be affected by Poor Sportsmanship shenanigans. If you want to skip the list and go straight to the shenanigans, jump to The Shenanigans[u] below

4 player, 2 teams, 1500pts per player. Necrons Vs Orks.

Necrons had all together, Orikan the diviner, Imotekh, Trazyn as the HQs.

Also, 8 lychguard with warscythes, attached lord with res orb, semi, phase shifter and warscythe, with trazyn (Following the rules of one unique per team, so, dont misread this as we have 2 trazyns)

2 groups of immortals with tesla carbines, 1 with attached orikan

2 groups of 10 scarabs.

My teammate had something like 20 warriors with an attached veil and maybe imotekh,

10 scarabs

another 20 warrior squad blob i believe, with lords and crypteks

All sorts of stuff. Honestly, i didnt really look at what he had.

First player orks had a kan wall (3 killa kans and a big kan thing deff dread?)
something like 60 boys, a big mek with KFF.

second player orks had a looted wagon, kan wall, 30-80 boys, an ork fighta bomba (dont ask me) and a battlewagon, burna boys

Now mind you, i didnt really look at their list when I was there because i fully expected 2,3,4 hours of play. If they were over or under points no big deal.
Some back history
I am a very relaxed player, i still consider myself new and learning the game. In all the time ive been playing, Necrons, orks, IG, ive only won one game. With that said, if you wipe me, turn 1, im totally cool with it. Im used to losing. No big deal, and i take it as a lesson to improve.

Ork player 1
When i first went to the FLGS I almost quit playing warhammer 40k because of this guy. He is also a big factor in why i stopped playing orks.
This guy rages. Throws his models, claws his eyes, yells curses at people, removes whole units from the tabletop if he makes bad rolls with them, or someone shoots them.
The second match i played with him, he said to me "I hope you get into a horrible motorcycle accident and die." I was pissed, but i let it slide, after telling him Dont say that again.
Later, he said it again, and i started to see red and i was ready to smash his models into pieces and leave until his friend (ork player 2) jumped in and said Oh! Hes joking! hes joking! and forced ork player 1 to apologize.

Ork player 2
Seems pretty laid back, very rules knowledgeable, very excited about the Necron codex and all of its xenos trickery. As a matter of fact, i got the orikan idea from him.

The Shenanigans[u]


Turn one. Night fighting in effect because of Imotekh. All terrain is Difficult due to Orikans temporal snares ability.
Ork player 2 moves his battlewagon. Rolls for DT. Get a 1. Immobolised.
Ork player 1 says Hey, im done lets get out of here. Ork Player 2 says No, lets see where this goes.
Ork player 2 goes to move his skimmer ork vehicle. Rolls a 1, immobolised. Ork player 1 says Im ready to get out of here.
Ork player 2 goes to move his looted wagon, rolls a 6, its fine to move on dt. Necron teammate reminds him he needs to roll a die for the looteds movement.
Ork player 2 rolls a 1. Then he says Ok im done. I quit. Ork player 1 and 2 start packing up their models with no way to reconcile them
Im like wtf, grab my stuff, say bye to another player and leave, pissed off at the poor sportsmanship.

They still had something like what, 100,150+ boys on the table, 6 kans, 2 deff dreads, big meks. Their vehicle weapons can still fire. What the freal man? Really going to quit?
Oh and Ork player 1 ALSO said, Well atleast we can take solace in that we wasted their time and gas.

Yep, wasted my gas, and 3 hours of my life waiting for you to set up and quit.


FOUR DICE and they QUIT. Jeez.
Alternatives:
Ork Player 1 and 2 stay, "playing it as it lies"
Scarabs move in, toss a couple of dreads, get flamed out of existence. lychguard kill the looted wagon (forced to go 13 inches (red paint job) because of the rolled one)
Lychguard start hacking at the orks.

90 orks get into assault with 20 warriors.

90 orks get into assault with 10 immortals
kans into assault. dreads into assault.

All sorts of things COULD have happened.

Heck, if they wanted to restart the game and asked me to remove orikan, I WOULD HAVE. I just did it to see what itd be like, and ork player 2 seemed intewrested in the result as well.

Anyone have similar stories to share?
Is this really, bad sportsmanship, or am i crazy?

Thanks!

Play game with guy, guy argues over placement of blast template over model that whole unit of long fang (missile spam) cannot see. I ask him to check. Butthurt ensues.

The guy was complaining about the extra attacks from my nurgle demon weapon on a standard CSM lord as well.

Furthermore, he didn't know how to move models as per assault rules.

(Playing a small team (750point each) 5v5 game for easter, cadbury cream eggs as delicious objectives. i start on one sidewith my GK with a nid player and a BA. Opposite is an older TFG who apparently has a bit of a temper issue (starts swearing when the table gets knocked or blames people his when his guys slip off unbalanced terrain). He comes in with some DA tacticals and a landraider. on his own. the IG next to him made it clear he was after objectives, whereas TFG thought he could survive termies and nidhorde alone. we agree the nids go for troopers, and il go for his tank (hammer with a librairian and warprift in the squad). i approach through cover, he keeps his troopers in the open and doesnt move his LR, just shoots. i proceed to rip it open as his first trooper squad gets swarmed. he then complains its ment to be a team game and hes got no support/were all cheating cus its a landraider (they are invincible in his mind aparantly)/shouting abuse and threats. he still had azreal and a tactical squad and a half. Baring in mind, he turned up and started unloading everyhthing from his case, and i meen everything. the SA hosting it had to show him how points work...he started shouting hed been playing since 2nd/3rd edition...

TFG enters the GW I frequent, brimming with his 'unbeatable' Blood Angels and was on a mission to 'capture' the local GW's 'banner' (Or some token from the Manager) that he bested our particular store.

He even bragged about all the little signed gift cards from X Managers that were tapped over his case.

So out of about five of us, I volunteer and step up with my unorthodox IG list, and set up.

About three turns in his army is in shambles. My Vanquishers had churned his Ravens into fodder, and he begins to complain that my Tanks are supposed to be useless and that Las Cannons were better, and by the time his Furiouso Dread gets decked and blown apart, he starts getting worse. He claims that I was using the Vanquisher Cannon wrong and that something so poor instats should never be as good as mine was.

Turn four comes and he's practically folded over. All that remains is a Assault Marine unit with a priest about to be run over by my Executioner. But before I can fire a shot, he packs up, berating me and leaves, but not before one of the other guys nabs a 'trophy' off his case.

I recommend making this a sticky, because I thought about making a thread like this about something that happened to me one time; I think something like this would be a good way of discouraging bad sportsmanship.

Here's what happened to me one time.

I start playing against this kid who has a very liberal sense of what 12" is. I think he was like 13 or something, but I suspect he might have been 17-18 and just looked like it.

He starts moving a Landraider full of Terminators toward my tanks, and moves it way more than 12" but does it around a corner to make it less obvious. It was clearly more than 12". I called him out on it, and he started arguing and picked it up and moved it back and said "look see! it's only 12"!" except he wasn't even close to where it originally started. He also, and in every subsequent movement, measured really fast and quickly picked up the vehicle and put it down. I believe he was measuring middle to back to make it look legitimate.

The second thing he did was pile out his Terminators when I destroyed the Landraider. They were in range, but he ran with them and pitched a fit when I told him that they couldn't assault after running, and insisted that I let him take it back because he didn't know the rule.

The third thing he did, and this gets to me way more than anyone else, was he walked out of the store in the middle of the game to buy gummy worms, than talked to me while stuffing his mouth full of them for the rest of the game.

The moment that he left the store was also the moment that I started moving toward a drop pod that he had just came in with space marines that had bolters that were totally actually flamers. I seriously should have told him that he was going to use that as bolters, and that it was final. He didn't have the sportsmanship to announce it at the beginning of the game and then walked out of the store at the moment that it mattered.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
There was also another guy who "fired" an entire squad of marines because they weren't doing enough to stop me from owning him, and than started screaming "Jesus Christ" every time I killed one of his guys or he was unsuccessful at something.

Playing a necron player w wolves pre new codex in small local tourney, moves scarabs to the flank.of my longfangs, forgets about them for a turn, following turn I POP a monolith w those fangs, he then wants to tell me he forgot to move the scarabs and then assault into fangs, and that it would negate the.monolith popping,

I disagree, he gets butthurt, rule check by game rules guy, comes down in my favor... Flips out, flails arms, knocks over monolith.onto concrete... Inapropriate swearing and insults ensue.

Wow.........alot of these stories are hilarious. Concerning the OP, that is just plain aweful. My Advice to you would be to never play against them again.

My Best story was when a player and I were playing in a large 60 person tournament, we were in the lower bracket (which still had 100$ prize support), and were on Table #1 on the last game, so whoever won the game got the prize. He was playing DoA foot marines. He grouped up 2 squads together, and I ended up getting like 19 marines under a large blast template that was str6 ap3. He raged, went over to the TO to tell him how I was cheating and slow playing. He then quit the game, and let me win the tournament.

Some people rofl

When we had the staff challenge board, I would get picked on because of my horrible dice syndrome.

Local 'nid player (before their 5th ed 'dex came out), spent two weeks being quite rude and very ruthless in his comments towards me and what was going to happen to my marines. Got so bad my manager almost banned him, but I told him I had a 'master plan'.

My list I took was roughly;
- Captain w/relic blade.
- Daemonhunter Inq Lord w/scourging + 1x heavy bolter serivtor, 1x bolter+power armour acolyte, 1x familiar.
- Culexus Assassin. (aka 'Little' Devious)
- 2x 10 man tactical squad w/heavy bolter + flamer
- 5x hammernators
- Dreadnought w/asscan + missile launcher
- 6 man Devastators w/3 missile launchers
- 10 man Devastators w/4 lascannons.

He had 3 kitted-out Warriors, 2 maxed-out 'fexes, 2 small (as in only 8 bug!) guant broods w/without number, 12 'stealers + broodlord.

So, as the game started, he tried to infiltrate his 'stealers exactly 18" from my front lines. So I pulled out the rulebook and showed him that he needed to be more than 18" away from me - as in, 'no more turn 1 assaults!' He got all pissy, ranting that I should have told him before we started deploying and how it was unfair because there was no cover where he'd placed them. His mood didn't get any better when I then proceeded to wipe them out with most of shooting!

His then spent the rest of game grumbling about how broken things in my army were;
a) My hammernators were beyond stupid because they wouldn't fail a save. They proceeded to butcher his Warriors, then mop-up the gaunt broods repeatedly thanks to them continually coming back through their 'without number' upgrade!

b) My assassin was pure apparently. I'd infiltrated him 13" behind a piece of terrain, and then proceeded to dog his 'fexes across the board. Devious actually took a wound off a 'fex, which then shot at the devastators, which ment it couldn't charge my assassin! More groans about how I should have informed him of this rule...
Next turn, the 'fex failed both it's Ld7 etherium tests, causing absolute outrage!
Finally, the assassin bit the dust next turn, but he took a second wound from the 'fex in the process! All told, that one one 'fex had 'gained' about 5" of ground and lost 2 wounds over 3 turns!

c) My refused flank deployment had left over half the 'nids well out of range and forced to footslog it for at least 3 turns before they could do anything. I was then accused of being a filthy power-gamer for building my front line with the dreadnought anchoring the flank, hammernators up the center, and captain to tarpit gaunts to keep my big guns & tacticals blasting away.
My Devs had all day to casually pop the two tricked-out 'fexes in a hail of missiles & lovely ap2 lascannons!



By the end of the game, I'd lost 3 space marines... He's lost his entire army, plus the gaunt squads about 4 times over! My manager was in utter hystarics over this how I'd just fed this guy a giant serving of ripe humble pie!
This guy then went into a rant about how I should have played a nicer game and not gone hardcore WAAC's against him because he'd only been playing for less than a year... I quietly reminded him that HE was the one who'd spent 2 weeks belittling me and my game-play.

Like the Hogwarts motto says, never poke a sleeping dragon in the eye! (they tend to wake-up *really* p -off when you do!)

Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

I was playing a flying Draigo-star to prove to some folks that Draigo-star was actually capable of winning games*. So on the first turn, I hit a Swarmlord with 4 Mindstrike Missiles, which, as you know, does 4 of his 5 wounds. Then he conceded.

*I beat a Dark Eldar army afterwards. They still don't believe Draigo-star can win.

Am I crazy, or do a lot of these stories involve Nid players?

AzureDeath wrote:Mine was in an Apoc game. My eldar vs orks. Right after the sunstorm data sheet had been released. I showed him the sheet before the game began, he skimmed it said ok and we began.I got first turn, moved and then I started shooting. I combined all 6 beams and placed the mega blast marker and rolled fro skatter, dead on. Took out 27 of a 30 man unit. After smoke cleared he called me a cheater and scooped his models into a box and left.I couldn't believe he did that. The next day I went back to my local store and he was playing against another player. He saw me and gave me a dirty look and the proceeded to quit that game too. I laughed that a 40ish old person could act like a child. I asked the other play, SW, why he left and he told me that the guy kept trying to cheat and then saw me and got all flabbergasted. Oh well good ridence.

An ork player quitted after loosing 27 models in an Apoc game, what is wrong with the world!

Just got ANOTHER story to add. This is a vassal story!

3000 point game, Necrons vs IG. The player playing IG i guess just decided to bring 3k of Imperial armory stuff. Now remember, we are hiding our lists from each other, so he has no clue what im bringing and i have no clue what he is bringing. He mentioned death korps of krieg to me but i had no fething clue what that meant, i thought it was a book.

He brings something like 4 or 5 mortar squads of three mortars per squad, HWTs of lascannons and stubbers, bunch of foot troops. He also builds the map so his teams can hide behind the walls.

I bring Orikan, Imotekh, 2 GAs with 2 crypteks, each ga has a cryptek with solar pulse, and 8 warriors in each, 8 man lychguard squad with Cryptek of eternity, and a lord with all the goodies cept the tess lab, 10 immortals with 2 lords, decked out the same. 10 scarabs, 5 destroyers, ctan shard with writhing wordscape and pyreshards, anhil barge and 20 flayed ones in reserve.

Mission is seize control, deployment is pitched battle. Roll for init i get a 6 and deploy everything but the FO. While he is deploying i ask about the terrain to insure no confusion and of COURSE he says the HILL in the middle of the map is blos and impass. Ok, im cool with that even though its a rather Richardy thing to do. The walls all his guys are convienently behind are 4+ cover shooting through them too, and DT. Ok, i can take that.
When i brought Ori and bought the writhing worldscape remember, i didnt know what his list was like. So when i told him at the beginning, that its nightfighting, and all terrain is dangerous he said No problem im not moving anything anyway.
Did i rant and rave and tear out my hair? No, i just laughed and carried on with my life.

Now remember, before i go any further, turn 1, movement phase player Me (he faield to steal init) Started at 3:50 am. He asked to play the 3000 POINT game at like 3:30 in the morning. How long does a 3k game take, awhile right? And on vassal40k, it takes longer than usual because communication isnt 100% awesome, especially if you arnt skypeing.
So, game starts at 3:50. Move my forces up, shooting phase.
Lord of the Storm. Im excited, he has a TON of units to shoot at. His units are all together and mushed up so start rolling on each, moving the target recticle. I fudge up and target 3 medusas in a squad separately and he catches me. I say oh! Sorry, duh me! Then he says, Let me roll them. Uh no. You are going to feth this up (pardon the language for you kiddos, just quoting!)
Im thinking to myself wow, this guy is kinda Richard'erd up. Ok, I continue rolling, this time being very specific and saying what im "shooting" at. Out of all his units on the board, i finally hit a medusa squad, roll d6 for 5 hits.

Ok, he says Their going to ground (I still dont know what this means...) I roll, cause 3 wounds, he rolls 3 random dice, and kills two.
I ask him (in my very polite way of telling someone they are wrong without saying YOU ARE WRONG) If insta death didnt affect those guys and he says no, they are regular artillery. Ok, i quickly grab out my BRB that i have handy, read the rules for shooting at artillery and realize im supposed to roll to see if i hit either the gun or the crew. I mention this to him and he goes oh yeah i forgot. I roll, 2 on the gun, 1 on the guy. He says no i saved one. I roll for pen, 2 pens (which destroy the gun) And i tell him he can either bring back a guy or drop a pen. Gun destroyed. I start looking for the info on his artillery unit and he beeps me because i wasnt doing anything for 10 seconds.

Everything else between the PS is skip-able pretty much. My destroyers wipe out a lasgun emplacement turn one. His turn.
Starts rolling dice like crazy. I have noooo clue whats going on. I guess he was rolling for nightfighting and shooting. Kills 2 destroyers with lasguns. Starts on firing his mortars. Its Ordnance 1, large blast, barrage. (Here is my inserted question now that i think of it. Barrages always drop down atleast 3 pie plates, or no? Would this weapon profile drop three plates per shot? I thought if it said like d3 barrage or barrage 3 or something is how you do that) something or other

Targets my immortals which are really bunched up, i had been lazy and left them like that. Oh well i thought, come what may.
He puts out the first shot, it scatters into my lychguard, and he quickly does a bunch of pie plates and goes from 4 hits to 6 hits and then quickly removes the blast templates and starts on the immortals with another squad and Im like uhh wait, how do you get 6? We get into an argument where i tell him he needs to communicate more, and LEAVE the blast templates where they are so i can wtf is going on. It was like 15 seconds and he called the number and moved the templates. Ok, I say screw it, ill do the lychguard 6 hits what ever. He continues hits some immortals.

Ok, without asking me he just once again rolls random random dice. If you are unfamiliar with vassal, It has a saves, to hit/to wound, random dice, vehicle pen etc programs. He doesnt ask me what my Toughness is or anything and just rolls Random dice. In real life, sure, your opponent rolls the dice, and you know whats going on, on a computer, not so. Ok, he makes 2 immortals and 2 lychguard take a nap.

Next, he starts shooting with the rest of his medusas and misses every single unit he fires at by the least of 11 inches. That was something like 8-9 complete misses. He then takes the scatter die and rolls it like 15 times in a row and i can tell he is pissed. Says vassal its 1/20 to hit. I try and defuse his anger by agreeing with him, because i truely dont want a bad game.

I roll reanimation protocols and all my guys get up from the nap cept 1 destroyer. Turn 2, i roll to continue nightfighting and succeed. Its 4:19. I start to move one guy forward and he says " basi ill just concede this is taking forever and its 5 in the morning. I really mean no offense but im just used to playing with friends and they play a little quicker"

Im like whaaa and he leaves. Period. End of story.

I feel that if he had wiped me that first turn, or atleast knocked some of my guys down for good, he would have stayed to play it out. But because his rolls sucked he quit. He was a complete Richard the whole time.

Sorry for the long story, but, its fresh! literally 29 minutes for 6000 points to be moved, and shot with and he called me slow, and quit in a hussy. There is also messages from other people directed at him mentioning that sorry they were so slow, and that they saved the game when he comes back So yeah, its not just me hes a douche to

lol Jeez.

I know a Space Wolves player who has a spreadsheet to work out his list - nothing wrong with that except he tweaks it all the time to make power lists. I've never seen him smile or have fun during a game, he plays "fluttery" - by this I mean always restless, and unable to relax or have a laugh. Possibly no imagination. He constantly bends the rules (measuring from middle to back for vehicle movement) and if you call him out on anything he LOSES HIS MIND.

In any case, I don't really want to play against him because those games just aren't fun since he's a richard. There's an upcoming campaign with him involved though. He says he's going to take 5 Wolf Guard Terminators - in a drop pod as dedicated transport. I lolled.

nightside wrote:He says he's going to take 5 Wolf Guard Terminators - in a drop pod as dedicated transport. I lolled.

Why? That's both legal and effective, unless there's been some errata of which I'm unaware.

Smitty0305 wrote:He grouped up 2 squads together, and I ended up getting like 19 marines under a large blast template that was str6 ap3.

How? 19 marines, is that even possible?

DarknessEternal wrote:

nightside wrote:He says he's going to take 5 Wolf Guard Terminators - in a drop pod as dedicated transport. I lolled.

Why? That's both legal and effective, unless there's been some errata of which I'm unaware.

Hang on - I thought that a drop pod could only be taken if it's listed in the unit description as a dedicated transport. And can't a drop pod only fit 5 models and 1 terminator counts as 2?

nightside wrote:Hang on - I thought that a drop pod could only be taken if it's listed in the unit descriptionas a dedicated transport.

Riiight and WG have it listed as a transport. Strike 1!

And can't a drop pod only fit 5 models

Strike 2!

and 1 terminator counts as 2?

Aww. You got one.

I think he was trying to say that it is a poor choice.

**grumbles**

**wanders back into bunker**

My opponents BA list -

Dante
3 Asualt marines in a rhino (they still have jump packs btw)

nuf said.

thestormlord wrote:My opponents BA list -

Dante
3 Asualt marines in a rhino (they still have jump packs btw)

nuf said.

Three Marines? HOW IS THIS LEGAL?!

I roflestomped a kid I didn't like, he quit end of turn one.

And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Dayvuni wrote:I roflestomped a kid I didn't like, he quit end of turn one.

/slowclap

Cool story, bro.

I know that I was once teamed up with a TFG who said it was all my fault that we failed an unrestricted tournament. 2 of the games we played were objectives.

My army? Combat Squad Ravenwing Biker Squadron with Attack Bike, Land Speeder. Sammael also. So remember, THREE SCORING UNITS (Three Bikes, Three Bikes, Attack Bike)

His army? 9 Vets. 1 Scout Squad. Librarian. 5 Tactical Marines. Rhino. Assault Squad. ONE SCORING UNIT (5 Tactical Marines)

He decided to try and snatch objectives on the other side of the board, getting his only scoring unit killed a plume of fire.

He also called me a crazy bastard for not using Sammael his way.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

thestormlord wrote:And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Get a rulebook and all current codexes. Get him to stand unaided with his hands stretched out. Drop codexes on his feet. Throw rulebook with maximum force at face of target. Calling the Ambulance is optional.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:
His army? 9 Vets. 1 Scout Squad. Librarian. 5 Tactical Marines. Rhino. Assault Squad. ONE SCORING UNIT (5 Tactical Marines)

Automatically Appended Next Post:

thestormlord wrote:And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Get a rulebook and all current codexes. Get him to stand unaided with his hands stretched out. Drop codexes on his feet. Throw rulebook with maximum force at face of target. Calling the Ambulance is optional.

Irony much?

he had 2 scoring units (Scouts can score as well)

I can only really think of three moments that could be considered 'Poor Sportsmanship'

First one not really, but was playing someone at our club, he was quite young, can't remember what army he was using (probably C:SM) and I was using TH/SS termies in Land Raiders SM list, with Shrike to give them fleet. Anyway, Shrike was planning to outflank (on his own, not enough points to give him a squad in 1500 points), it was already looking not that great for me at all, on turn three, and in the shooting phase (well just finished movement, hadn't shot anything) I remembered I hadn't rolled for Shrike, so I said can I roll now? And he said no, you forgot, he's dead. We weren't playing a competitive game, at a friendly club (although maybe my list suggested otherwise, although at 1500 points and at that time it stopped being a good list to be honest, this was slightly less than two years ago. I know thats technically the rule, but any time (even once in a tournament game, not a serious competitive tournament, haven't been to one of those) I or someone else has forgotten a reserve roll, me (or them) have just said roll it now (or maybe leave it till next turn, not that unit is dead because you forgot to roll).

The other two, both came at ToS in January last year, on the whole I really enjoyed myself, did fairly well considering I wasn't using my own army (although I had played a very similar list before, was Jetseers, two squads, A 3 man bike squad and 2 5 man DA squads in Falcons), I won my first game, so second game I was up against another winner. He kept going on about how rubbish his DE list was, was built for fun, not competitiveness (despite it being a bog standard Mech DE list with one difference, an Archon's court), occasionally throwing in how wonderful/OP my list was. Basically it wasn't a fun game at all, everything went really wrong for me, followed by really patronising comments from him. (worst thing in that game, seer council assaulted his Court, was a full squad with Farseer and I think 6 Warlocks, maybe 7, basically he saved all the wounds I did because of FNP, then killed one Warlock off, which happened to be Embolden, I failed LD by 1, and he caught me, dead seer council, with 1 dead model, they had killed nothing. Obviously not his fault, but was just pretty much the whole feel of that game for me).

On Day two, I was up against a IG list, a bit of a mixed list, with a 20-30 man blob squad, possibly straken, 2-3 leman russes, marbo, some heavy weapon teams, possibly a squad in a chimera. Funnily enough I ended up on a table next to one of the other people from my club (6 of us there altogether), and someone he knew was on a table behind (a couple to the left I think), we had our armies out on the table, but was a bit of time before we were allowed to start, so I went off to the toilet. After the game my friend told me he'd been boasting he was going to win, easy game for him, stuff like that. When he told me he'd said that, I thought that was pretty off. Especially since he killed half a seer council in first turn (he went first, no fortune) before I completely annihilated him, he killed about 2 more Warlocks at most, Marbo came on and failed to hurt a Falcon, the fuller (he may have done wounds to both seer squad was actually in combat with the blob squad for a while, so the half dead one actually did most of the killing, assaulting turn 2, 3, 4, 5 and 5, losing 1 Warlock in all that time (against various heavy and small arms fire). He spent the whole game after his first turn looking miserable (in fact he looked miserable after he didn't wipe at all the warlocks first turn, I still made quite a lot of saves), barely said anything, grudgingly shook my hand when I offered it to him at the end. I tried to make it more fun, sound like I was getting lucky without being patronising, its not nice to lose badly (especially after a decent start), but it'd be nice to show some kind of enjoyment/social interaction. I might as well have been playing myself, would have got more conversation...


None of them major things (and I could have said them using a lot less words), which I suppose is pretty lucky really, some people have had some terrible times playing 40k, my 'bad' experiences with actual players is pretty much limited to those 3 times (oh actually, one other, but won't go into that, even though its probably (definatly) the worst), and the occasional time when i'm losing badly and just not really in the mood to be losing badly.

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:
His army? 9 Vets. 1 Scout Squad. Librarian. 5 Tactical Marines. Rhino. Assault Squad. ONE SCORING UNIT (5 Tactical Marines)

Automatically Appended Next Post:

thestormlord wrote:And dante assaulted after ds on the first turn without scatter.

Get a rulebook and all current codexes. Get him to stand unaided with his hands stretched out. Drop codexes on his feet. Throw rulebook with maximum force at face of target. Calling the Ambulance is optional.

Irony much?

he had 2 scoring units (Scouts can score as well)

DA Codex. Scouts are elite.

played and apoc match thats supposed to be 3 vs 3 (Orks vs IG). Only i show up for the IG and all 3 ork players show up. we can move the tables to whatever config we want. i want a long defensive style battle with me on the end and them coming towards me. they force me to have the battle nigh point blank spread length wise across this table (it was 3 tables together to make 1 long table) so their orks are within spitting distance of my units. im fine with that.

but the thing that did it for me was blatant cheating when it came to my Baneblade. The Baneblade has 4 sponsons and retains 13 side armor but they fired some gun ( i can't remmber what, only it was off a stompa and was a giant machine gun) and they declare that the Baenblade has 12 armor on the sides due to the added sponsons. I called them out on it but they refused to give me the apoc book to show proof. Said baneblade was glanced into oblivion along with several pens that leading to its destruction (the glances alone practically crippled the tank).

At turn 3 i called the game (they tried to do the same with another one of my super heavyy, a Shadowsword with a single pair of sponsons).

I never played them again and rarly seem them in the shop and even if i do i don't say anything.
but now i have an entire binder with my codex, and every datasheet of every machine i have including ones i haven't even constructed. just so that can never happen again.

Another was when a Leman Russ of mine destroyed a significant portion of a Grey knights army. my lone tank destroyed at least 2 dreadnaughts and multiple squads of different kindsincluding a paladin squad. And everything he fired at the Leman Russ never affected it, such as the psycannons never rolled a rending. When i finnaly destroyed the last GK with a psycannon (removeing all ranged anti tank weapons minus the few living guy with melee weapons who were a good distance away beign shot by multiple guardsmen squads) he snapped and tried to smash my tank (physically not with troop retaliation!), he tried to hit my tank with a large solid piece of terrain but the plastic terrain it was settled in took the first blow (damaging the terrain by snapping off the top floor of the building) i saved my tank and troops before he could hurt them and he was banned from the store for such action.

my only guess is that i had destroyed his winning streak and that his "God Like Grey KNight of Awesomeness" being destroyed by "Pathetic guardsmen and their crates" (his words) was too much for him.

Looking for a game at my local GW, using my regular all-comers Necron wraithwing list.

"Hey, you want a game?"
"Sure, what army are you playing?"
"Necrons"
*picks up DE codex* "hm...what should I take against Necrons"

Besides the list tailoring, he was actually a really good sport, especially after I had tabled him