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TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

5 Man Tactical Squad

Give Sergeant Combi Weapon

OR

Captain or Librarian or Chaplain, all plain.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

5 Man Tactical Squad

Give Sergeant Combi Weapon

OR

Captain or Librarian or Chaplain, all plain.

Right, right.

Anyways, OT, I'd still be highly skeptical of how anyone could fit 4 Ven Dreads, one of them being an IC, into a 1000 point list, without even looking at a codex.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

Quickly

3 ven dreads + bjorn = 765

2 troops of 5 grey hunters = 150

So its possible, but cant imagine its fun to face.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Igloo wrote:I played someone who took 4 venerable dreadnoughts (one was bjorn the fell handed) in a 100 point SW list.

0_0 100, or 1000? The latter is skeptical. The former is RIDICULOUS. No, definitely 1000. How do you play a 100 point game?

Oops yea I meant 1000.


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dæl wrote:3 ven dreads + bjorn = 765

2 troops of 5 grey hunters = 150

So its possible, but cant imagine its fun to face.

No I can assure you, there are not enough Las Cannons in the world...
And unfortunatly I have to play this list quite often as this person is one of the only 40k players in my town.

No I can assure you, there are not enough Las Cannons in the world...

You could take 3 vindicators for half the cost of his dreads...
or maybe a MotF and 5 mm dreads in drop pods, with two 5 man tac squads @ 1000 (if you can't beat them out-cheese them )

edit: drop the pods and get yet another dread, 6 @1000pts would be funny just to see his face.

dæl wrote:3 ven dreads + bjorn = 765

2 troops of 5 grey hunters = 150

So its possible, but cant imagine its fun to face.

I'm not really familiar with SW dreads, but I can imagine that green tide orks would roflstomp that list.

Concentrate fire on the 2 grey hunters, remove his ability to claim objectives, then get PKs into the dreads (I usually run 4 minimum at 1000pts, more if I run a nobstar).

Back on topic, I find that bad sportsmanship isn't just limited to people when they loose, or the drastic cases.

There's a guy who hangs around the store, fairly decent guy. I'm fairly certain he's mentally deficient. Not saying that in an offensive way, but... You can tell, he's not entirely with it. He's a remarkable painter/modeler, he has his own scratch built Warlord Titan that is simply JAWDROPPING, but, as you could imagine for a mentally challenged person, he's not exactly the best at playing the game. He rarely wins, most often gets completely tabled. As you could also imagine, when he does win, it's a fairly big deal for him. So he makes a big deal out of it.

On the other hand, we get donkey-cave one-timers every day; people who come in for one game, make snide remarks, gloat if they win, rant a bit if they loose, and you never see them again.

Experiment 626 wrote:One of the local TFG's with his GK's vs a 12 year old Daemon player... 1st turn, TFG casts warp quake across the entire table with 3 full strike squads & 2 full interceptor squads, then tells the poor kid he needs to buy a real army not stop playing the crap army.

Once 6th editon hits and/or Daemons get a new codex, this moron had a debt to pay on behalf of my fellow daemon player!

Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

TermiesInARaider wrote:Back on topic, I find that bad sportsmanship isn't just limited to people when they loose, or the drastic cases.

There's a guy who hangs around the store, fairly decent guy. I'm fairly certain he's mentally deficient. Not saying that in an offensive way, but... You can tell, he's not entirely with it. He's a remarkable painter/modeler, he has his own scratch built Warlord Titan that is simply JAWDROPPING, but, as you could imagine for a mentally challenged person, he's not exactly the best at playing the game. He rarely wins, most often gets completely tabled. As you could also imagine, when he does win, it's a fairly big deal for him. So he makes a big deal out of it.

That doesn't sound like bad sportsmanship to me, but honest excitement. If he loses with equanimity and doesn't rant and rave I am not going to begrudge the guy some excitement when he actually does win a game.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:Back on topic, I find that bad sportsmanship isn't just limited to people when they loose, or the drastic cases.

There's a guy who hangs around the store, fairly decent guy. I'm fairly certain he's mentally deficient. Not saying that in an offensive way, but... You can tell, he's not entirely with it. He's a remarkable painter/modeler, he has his own scratch built Warlord Titan that is simply JAWDROPPING, but, as you could imagine for a mentally challenged person, he's not exactly the best at playing the game. He rarely wins, most often gets completely tabled. As you could also imagine, when he does win, it's a fairly big deal for him. So he makes a big deal out of it.

That doesn't sound like bad sportsmanship to me, but honest excitement. If he loses with equanimity and doesn't rant and rave I am not going to begrudge the guy some excitement when he actually does win a game.

Skriker

Oops. I don't really think I made myself totally clear. When I say he makes a big deal out of it, I mean he starts talking smack. Which, for many of us, is totally acceptable, and often welcome. But a lot of the WAAC, table-top-games-are-serious-business folks, especially the one's who don't really know him, get pretty annoyed.

Mordiggian wrote:Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

I don't throw games against new players, but do support them and offer advice during the game to help them understand how their army works and how the rules work. I am also more lenient when they are totally new to mini-gaming and offer suggestions when they are making a very poor tactical decision and help them see why it would be more effective to do things a little differently. In those situations I have lost games where the new player picks up on things very quickly and adapts exceptionally well. It is hard to feel bad about a loss in those situations, though.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

Mordiggian wrote:Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

I don't throw games against new players, but do support them and offer advice during the game to help them understand how their army works and how the rules work. I am also more lenient when they are totally new to mini-gaming and offer suggestions when they are making a very poor tactical decision and help them see why it would be more effective to do things a little differently. In those situations I have lost games where the new player picks up on things very quickly and adapts exceptionally well. It is hard to feel bad about a loss in those situations, though.

Skriker

This. I can only hope my first game is with a guy with that mentality. Bravo, you get my Nice Guy of the Day award.

TermiesInARaider wrote:This. I can only hope my first game is with a guy with that mentality. Bravo, you get my Nice Guy of the Day award.

Thanks!

Really don't understand the mentality of those who feel the need to be d-bags to completely new players. Of course we have created a monster in this way in our Flames of War League. Our youngest player is around 10. Last league we guided him through and taught him well and he actually placed 5th overall. Definitely not bad for his first league ever. Now as we are running our current LW league he is *leading* the league. Part of that is due to the fact that he is there EVERY Sunday league day, so gets in more games than all the adults who have other committments as well. Can't help feeling like a proud uncle though to see how far his game has come over the last year, though.

Skriker

Omegus wrote:

mitnal wrote:By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.

Ooh, look at you, Mr. Tough Guy, hip tossing kids. Out of all the dbags described in this thread, you're the most pathetic. Except, of course, you're probably making the whole thing up, which now that I think about it, still makes you the most pathetic.

This made me cry with laughter. It's by far the douchiest thing I've ever heard in my life. Brilliant.

I can't wait to start playing this game

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

Amaya wrote:

Omegus wrote:

mitnal wrote:By the end of this turn he said he was going to smash my models, so this guy walks to my side of the board ( little did he know, at the time I was currently training for my first prof. MMA fight) So I proceeded to hip toss this guy on the floor and told him if he ever came near me that I was going to defend my self and call the cops, oh and he got banned from the store after that.

Ooh, look at you, Mr. Tough Guy, hip tossing kids. Out of all the dbags described in this thread, you're the most pathetic. Except, of course, you're probably making the whole thing up, which now that I think about it, still makes you the most pathetic.

Exalted,
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On a serious note, I doubt the number of fights breaking out over 40k is one tenth the claimed amount. People love to make up this crap because for whatever reason 90% of people on the internet believe everything they read.

Omegus' comment was hilarious and spot on.

@Amaya I agree

Kain wrote:

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

If another Dkok player had a game against him i wonder what would happen. Would Rojan run away or would the other Player shell out just as many shots. and my guess as since the other player knows his rules he will probaby be a better tactician. But still it make you think what some people have come to in order to win.

Not sure how well this applies, but here's two.

Over a year ago, I was working on a Guard army as my group was complaining too much about my Necrons. Even after telling them how to obliterate my army, they just kept ignoring the Warriors and Destroyers and pour everything into the Monoliths. Didn't do anything for them. So, for my birthday, me and a few friends decided to do a 2 vs 2 game. Chaos & Guard vs Space Wolves and Orks. Game ends at the end of turn 3, when my Chimera fires and Njarl and deals two wounds. My friend then proceeds to roll double 1s and everything goes silent. We've known this friend to throw fits and go off in the past before when things went bad for him, but not this time. He ended up pulling out a knife and just glared at my Chimera. Me and a friend were both getting ready to bolt out the garage and run down the street til he put the knife back up. There are reasons I(and a good deal of my group) don't game with him anymore.

The only other one I can think of is another game with Space Wolves player some months before. Bottom of turn 2 and it's my turn. All my fallen Necrons get back up with help with the Res. Orb. My friend has two squads within charge range of my Warriors, so I use the Monolith to pull them back and out of threat range. He then goes off calling me a retreating coward for teleporting my Warriors away from danger. I ignore it, and open up with my two squads of Destroyers, causing heavy casualties for him. He then proceeds to quit the game, complaining how he can never win. Complaining that Necrons are cheap, they have a chance of getting back up, don't stay dead, too over powered. Then goes to explain that he went off like that because he hadn't ate that morning...

redkeyboard wrote:

Kain wrote:

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

If another Dkok player had a game against him i wonder what would happen. Would Rojan run away or would the other Player shell out just as many shots. and my guess as since the other player knows his rules he will probaby be a better tactician. But still it make you think what some people have come to in order to win.

Nah, he'd just throw in his AV14/13/12 Contemptor dreads with venerable rules and 2d6 shot deathstorm drop pods. :V

redkeyboard wrote:

Kain wrote:

Formosa wrote:

Kain wrote:

Basimpo wrote:Lol, you mean you didnt notice that each medusa he brought was shooting 12 ordnance barrage large blasts? lol!

Yeah I was getting rather suspicious when his artillery took thirty minutes to resolve all their shots...

the game bas is talking about was rojan vs me, i was playing 1750pts, rojan was playing 2200pts, you cant fit 220 normal guard and 7 medusa in the 1750 list

I've played a game against him where his medusas shot out 27 templates and he said "Oh it's just a DKoK special." I was tabled in two turns by all the S10 blasts.

If another Dkok player had a game against him i wonder what would happen. Would Rojan run away or would the other Player shell out just as many shots. and my guess as since the other player knows his rules he will probaby be a better tactician. But still it make you think what some people have come to in order to win.

I suspect he would take a Phantom titan and say it was a Myrmea (sp?) special unit.

I played against Mercer at Warhammer world, and after I crushed him, he rammed his hand up my wifes skirt, and hammered two nails into my car tyres.

........


I had plenty to drink though, so I might have dreamed it.

Skriker wrote:

Mordiggian wrote:Yeah. This is one of the reasons I make it a policy to throw the game if it's someone's first time. Not make it an easy game, but if it's someone's first time at the table, I try to make them win.

Of course, I play tyranids, so it's not all that difficult.

I don't throw games against new players, but do support them and offer advice during the game to help them understand how their army works and how the rules work. I am also more lenient when they are totally new to mini-gaming and offer suggestions when they are making a very poor tactical decision and help them see why it would be more effective to do things a little differently. In those situations I have lost games where the new player picks up on things very quickly and adapts exceptionally well. It is hard to feel bad about a loss in those situations, though.

Skriker

im a real scumbag. Against new players I pull my hardest list, usually night lords or raven guard, and trash em as efficiently as possible. On the upside I then go through what happened after the game give em advice on their list, show what they could have done and give them helpful hints during their next game with someone else. Oh and I buy them a coffee and a biscuit

Shadowbrand wrote:Bird as in penis.

Can't resist-

So the thunder hammer is his penis?

BTNeophyte wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:Bird as in penis.

Can't resist-

So the thunder hammer is his penis?

I can't either - we need more of these guys.

Any temporary embarrassment/discomfort inflicted on the other parties (and jyeah, ya think?) is MORE than offset by the service he's providing by dispelling the typical miniature hobbyist nerd stereotype! (playing around tonight...)