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Platuan4th wrote:That's because digital distributors and hardware producers had signed an illegal agreement to set prices(Apple and others were setting prices and forcing Amazon and others to follow suit).

Expect that to change over the next few months as the DoJ just successfully sued Apple and 5 other companies over it.

When was a ruling reached on this one, Platuan? I knew the case had begun, and I do hope that is the end result - the price-fixing is the main thing stopping me picking up a Kindle.

Dysartes wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:That's because digital distributors and hardware producers had signed an illegal agreement to set prices(Apple and others were setting prices and forcing Amazon and others to follow suit).

Expect that to change over the next few months as the DoJ just successfully sued Apple and 5 other companies over it.

When was a ruling reached on this one, Platuan? I knew the case had begun, and I do hope that is the end result - the price-fixing is the main thing stopping me picking up a Kindle.

There was a settlement scheduled for April 5th, but it looks like Apple, Macmillan, and Penguin have not agreed(looks like the others did and have backed out of the Apple agreements).

Sorry, I thought all had settled. Incidentally, cases have also now been brought in both European and Canadian courts against Apple.

Here's where it stood on the 20th:

http://9to5mac.com/2012/04/20/apple-ebook-price-fixing-lawsuits-hit-canada-following-doj-suit/

The most important bit: "Following an investigation into alleged eBook price-fixing, the U.S. Department of Justice filed an antitrust lawsuit against Apple and publishers Macmillan and Penguin earlier this month, who refused to settle. Other publishers, including Hachette, HarperCollins, and Simon & Schuster, settled and reached an agreement to return Amazon to its previous wholesale model and dismantle Apple’s agency model. The settlement also included agreements with select states that would see $51 million in restitution paid to those who purchased eBooks through Apple’s platform."

Thanks Platuan - that's about where I remember the case being last I read anything.

Here's hoping the US DoJ hits someone other than Microsoft and Google with a heavy anti-trust fine this time. Not like Apple can't afford it, of course.

Advocacy of criminal acts is not permitted on Dakka. Don't do it again.-Mannahnin

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:That's aggressive even by GW standards, usually they just let old stuff die a slow death.

Not really. Dark Heresy was a runaway success, and GW's immediate response was to shut down the company that wrote it. Some days GW decides that they don't like money, and they do dumb things. There's no pattern or logic to it.

It reminds me of the On again / Off again attitude that GW had towards Warhammer Fantasy Role-playing.

Kilkrazy wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:That's aggressive even by GW standards, usually they just let old stuff die a slow death.

Not really. Dark Heresy was a runaway success, and GW's immediate response was to shut down the company that wrote it. Some days GW decides that they don't like money, and they do dumb things. There's no pattern or logic to it.

It reminds me of the On again / Off again attitude that GW had towards Warhammer Fantasy Role-playing.

Unfortunate that FFG screwed that up with cards and gimmicks. A rare example of them dropping the ball.

Some interesting stuff from Ricky P

Quoted from steharan off of WAB Forum:



For info this is Ricks post in the Yahoo group.

Quoted from Yahoo group:



Re: Warhammer Historicals

From what I understand of these things it is very unlikely that GW will allow
any of the WH line to pass into the hands of a third party.

It was Rob Broom (ex WH manager)that tried to buy WH - and I know of at least
one other that also approached GW to do so. But not me

I did have a second edition of Warmaster done - it was just not wanted - I
figure you just have to move on

I think you have to think of WH as just something Jervis and I started - with
the Perrys - as a personal project. We wanted to print and produce WAB ourselves
originally - but were unable to do so - mostly as GW has proprietry rights in
the Warhammer brand of course. We had the money and everything set-up - we
didn't need GW to do it. because of that it was initially set-up as a joint
ventue company - with GW having the controlling interest (but doing nothing
apart from that). For some years we (JJ, me, Perrys) ran the whole thing pretty
much as we wanted - until it got too big for us to manage - at which point we
employed Rob. But we did all the work ourselves - just using our contacts within
GW to arrange things like production and printing, and - eventually -despatch -
though we did all that ourselves to start with. GW recharged all the handling to
us as a third party. At the very beginning we even held the stock ourselves - so
the original print run of WAB lived in my garage for quite a while! WH was
absorbed into GW mostly for accounting reasons - because GW insisted on
retaining ownership the WH accounts had to conform to the same standards as
other GW companies (e.g. GW USA) - which meant that the accounts charges
actually exceeded any potential profit! In the end GW ended up with something it
never really wanted - and only retained ownership of out of consideration to me
and Jervis. The Perrys - of course - went off and did their own thing with Perry
Mins.

Sorry to see it go - but I'm afraid it never sat comfortable with GW and I think
they've at least done the decent thing and given up - which - I believe - is
what should have happened when Rob went.

Rick

Hrmm well that sucks that GW screwed up something they got for free.

Its a real pity about this. I have all the old west books and they are great fun if you want a quick game. the campaigns can be fun too.

I also have trafalgar, which is a great naval system. Fun and easy to play.

Once again GW shafting anything they see as not pleasing the shareholders...They probably think all the historical gamers will turn around and get back into 40k or fantasy instead of turning to other systems...

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