ByeBye specialist games - GW pulling the plug

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**Yodhrin**

kronk wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or give the Necromunda rights to FFG and let me at 'em!!!

Push your FFG contacts to look into it, maynard!

Oh for all that's sweet and true and good and just in the world, please do that. The idea of FFG taking over the Specialist Games makes me all goey downstairs

Not just Necromunda either, they could make actual Inquisimunda, a fusion of the best bits of both, with all the old 28mm SG games as settings/sourcebooks. BFG seems well suited to a boxed-game adaptation too. Do FFG do kickstarter?

**kronk**

They'd have to get GW to give them rights to make miniatures, which I'm not sure they'd do. Right?

**Marine_With_Heart**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
*sigh*

This is such a shame and so utterly unsurprising that I can't even muster the energy to make a "This is great news!" joke.

*walks away*

^ ^ ^
This I have found quite sad... Your usual wit, sarcasm and jovialism is great to read HBMC... It must truly be a time of misery if this is what GW's "policies" and "ideas" has reduced you to :(

**AllSeeingSkink**

ARRAGRAGRAGHHHHHH!!! DAMN YOU GW!!!! I just bought a bunch of Aeronautica Imperialis stuff and now you're getting rid of it??

***many swear words***

Grrrrr...

***walks away muttering to self****

**Wolf**

Oh what ?! This is actually quite devastating ! I love BFG and the forgeworld BFG models even some of the Aeronautica stuff and now I'm been told it's been discontinued :O

This is actually really sucky news for me and my friend who play specialist games... Cram.

**Brother SRM**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
ARRAGRAGRAGHHHHHH!!! DAMN YOU GW!!!! I just bought a bunch of Aeronautica Imperialis stuff and now you're getting rid of it??

***many swear words***

Grrrrr...

***walks away muttering to self****

Hey, you already bought it, it doesn't turn to dust now that the game isn't supported.

Honestly, this sucks a fat one, but isn't much different from the last few years as far as GW is concerned. They haven't supported any of these games (aside from some odd Bloodbowl individual figures a couple years back) and won't now. The best place to buy this stuff already was eBay, and it was hard enough to find people to play to begin with. The online communities for Bloodbowl and Necromunda are what have kept those alive for years, and they'll continue to do so.

**Lansirill**

Welp, I picked up my 'small' imperial fleet for BFG. Might get some Epic, but those miniatures are so danged fiddly I'm not sure I'd actually have fun painting them. Didn't want to slow my order down with the 1-2 week wait on a SM battle company either way though.

**Jehan-reznor**

Got a huge BFG fleet and necromunda gang back in my home country, another smart move from GW

**AllSeeingSkink**

Brother SRM wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
ARRAGRAGRAGHHHHHH!!! DAMN YOU GW!!!! I just bought a bunch of Aeronautica Imperialis stuff and now you're getting rid of it??

***many swear words***

Grrrrr...

***walks away muttering to self****

Hey, you already bought it, it doesn't turn to dust now that the game isn't supported.

Honestly, this sucks a fat one, but isn't much different from the last few years as far as GW is concerned. They haven't supported any of these games (aside from some odd Bloodbowl individual figures a couple years back) and won't now. The best place to buy this stuff already was eBay, and it was hard enough to find people to play to begin with. The online communities for Bloodbowl and Necromunda are what have kept those alive for years, and they'll continue to do so.

Yes, but I don't really own enough to play a decent game. I just got the rulebooks and a couple of fighters from a few factions so I could try it out with friends. About $150 worth. They're already taking down some of the AI models, I could just buy the rest of the squadrons I wanted before they all go, but I'm also in the middle of buying a car and don't really want to drop the money on it at the moment :-(

**His Master's Voice**

Wait, Aeronautica is getting phased out as well? That's, like, bad. Really bad.

**Eilif**

Specialist games was for many the place to which they would point to prove that GW wasn't entirely deaf to veteran gamers. Despite the lack of expansion of these games for years, SG still added some interesting aspects to the GW universes.

Now it's just one more scroogie to the vets.

Very sad to hear about this. Makes me glad that I've got 3 (almsot 4) necromunda factions worth of figures. Haven't played since the 90's, but at least I'll have the option.

**Col. Kurtz**

This really sucks! It was Mordheim that got me into miniature gaming in the first place. I had always wondered about the miniatures that lined the wall at my FLGS but was put off by the start up costs. then my friend introduced me to Mordheim and I was hooked. I wish that GW would realise what good starter games Necromunda and Mordheim and the like are, as I have since spent many thousands on their plastic crack. Another wasted opportunity on GW's part.

**Riquende**

Anyone know how long Forge World usually take to deliver? I ordered some AI stuff the other day, now it's looking like I'm up against the clock to order the rest of what I need, but I don't want to do that until I've seen the first lot in person (it's a lot of money to drop on totally unseen stuff).

**Agamemnon2**

kronk wrote:
They'd have to get GW to give them rights to make miniatures, which I'm not sure they'd do. Right?

Right, and that is unlikely at best.

**Kid_Kyoto**

I suppose this is a bad time to mention I have a box of unopened, shrink wrapped Orlocks up on ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121102116336?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Yeah, probably a bad time.

**pities2004**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I suppose this is a bad time to mention I have a box of unopened, shrink wrapped Orlocks up on ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121102116336?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Yeah, probably a bad time.

It's like free advertisement.

**ceorron**

It was coming. Sad, but it was coming.

Well I all hope this doesn't have any bearing on Blood Bowl getting a re-release the same as Space Hulk.

**thenoobbomb**

pities2004 wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I suppose this is a bad time to mention I have a box of unopened, shrink wrapped Orlocks up on ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121102116336?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Yeah, probably a bad time.

It's like free advertisement.

Quick! Yellow triangle of friendship!

**pities2004**

To be honest I had no idea they were still offering most of these games.

**Kilkrazy**

They barely were. This is just the end point of a process of not so benign neglect that started 10 years ago or more.

**judgedoug**

So, GW admits defeat and Mantic has now picked up the torch? Can't wait for Mantic's Mordheim-replacement.

**Agamemnon2**

judgedoug wrote:
So, GW admits defeat and Mantic has now picked up the torch? Can't wait for Mantic's Mordheim-replacement.

Meet the new boss, same (or slightly better/worse) than the old boss.

**BrassScorpion**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I suppose this is a bad time to mention I have a box of unopened, shrink wrapped Orlocks up on ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121102116336?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Yeah, probably a bad time.

Also an interesting coincidence for me, I just put a bunch of Necromunda House Escher models on eBay, many of them are relatively rare out of production models. Here's a link:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/zigra/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1

**Howard A Treesong**

Inevitable I imagine. They were never going to be released in Finecast as that requires investment, given how they've run down specialist games there's probably not a market to support that. But to continuing in metal requires they maintain old equipment and continue to buy metal stocks. That's just not going to work.

It's just not viable, not that I'm excusing them. They aren't viable because they've cut support and wound the ranges down over 10 years and have chosen to let them go to ruin. Now there's no place for them because they don't want to make them work. They were happy to make a small amount off them by keeping stocks of things, but now it requires real care they prefer to shut them down. Sad but it was a surprisingly long time coming given the current management style.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Riquende wrote:
Anyone know how long Forge World usually take to deliver? I ordered some AI stuff the other day, now it's looking like I'm up against the clock to order the rest of what I need, but I don't want to do that until I've seen the first lot in person (it's a lot of money to drop on totally unseen stuff).

I think you might be out of luck, they've already pulled some of the stuff off the site and now the thunderhawk is out of stock, the vampire raider has gone out of stock in the few minutes since I added it to my cart. The Aquila Lander and Valkyrie has vanished. All of these were models I was planning to buy in the next few months, so yeah, I am not happy right now. Something from the Tau range is gone as well, not sure what it was I just notice there's one less object in the range. I think I need to quit the hobby and stick to working on my cars, little toy soldiers are not worth the frustration.

I just wish the bastards could say a week or two ahead of time "Hey guys, unfortunately we are discontinuing these lines in 2 weeks, please place any last orders for them now". Instead you order half a force and then before you have a chance to finish it they pull the range from their sites.

I give up, frak them, I'm not going to try and purchase a crapload of stuff to beat the clock.

**judgedoug**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
So, GW admits defeat and Mantic has now picked up the torch? Can't wait for Mantic's Mordheim-replacement.

Meet the new boss, same (or slightly better/worse) than the old boss.

At least the new boss shows up to work, actively talks to you, encourages you, gives you tasks, and pats you on the back.
The old boss has forgotten to come to work for ten years.

**Goliath**

Yodhrin wrote:
Oh FFS, I was planning to start an Imperial Fleet for BFG next month. Seriously, is Tom Kirby on a personal mission to piss on the fond memories of anyone over twelve years old or something? :/

EDIT: Righto, just rang up myself, according to the mail order chappie, they are discontinuing some models which are both A: in need of new moulds being made because the old ones are knackered, and B: don't sell particularly well. They are NOT axing the whole range, and they are NOT getting rid of the free rules on the website.

Also, if anyone was specifically after a Repulsive Grand Cruiser, they have two left in the warehouse as of 11am GMT that they'll let you order over the phone if you have a credit card.

So, it's still crappy news, but its slightly less crappy than it could be.

I like that this post has been consistently ignored.

Just thought I'd bring it to your attention.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Goliath wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Oh FFS, I was planning to start an Imperial Fleet for BFG next month. Seriously, is Tom Kirby on a personal mission to piss on the fond memories of anyone over twelve years old or something? :/

EDIT: Righto, just rang up myself, according to the mail order chappie, they are discontinuing some models which are both A: in need of new moulds being made because the old ones are knackered, and B: don't sell particularly well. They are NOT axing the whole range, and they are NOT getting rid of the free rules on the website.

Also, if anyone was specifically after a Repulsive Grand Cruiser, they have two left in the warehouse as of 11am GMT that they'll let you order over the phone if you have a credit card.

So, it's still crappy news, but its slightly less crappy than it could be.

I like that this post has been consistently ignored.

Just thought I'd bring it to your attention.

I'll believe it when I see it, others have said they are gone for good...

http://epicaddiction.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/fw-specialist-games-going-too/

Quick update guys,

I just rang Forgeworld and they are also stopping production of any new specialist games miniatures – this means that all BFG, EPIC, AI ranges are now no longer in production and once the remaining stocks go they will not be replaced.

Has been confirmed by multiple Tactical Command Forum members here: http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24999

**d-usa**

FFG taking over at some point would be the only redeeming factor in all of this. Something so great that I won't hold my breath for it.

Really GW, stop being you...

**MeanGreenStompa**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

I just wish the bastards could say a week or two ahead of time "Hey guys, unfortunately we are discontinuing these lines in 2 weeks, please place any last orders for them now". Instead you order half a force and then before you have a chance to finish it they pull the range from their sites.

They have no online medium to convey such a message...

Or perhaps they should put it in their nigh useless glossy rag.