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What a shame. I've never had the chance to play any of the specialist games and those chances are looking even slimer now.

Well lets not be all doom and gloom. This actually might signal good stuff, like FW taking over the games. They were already doing some epic titans, and mordheim personalities could easily be side projects for their fantasy devision. As for bloodbowl, isn't it rumored to be this years secret item for fall/winter with 4 new sculpted teams?

 Theophony wrote:
Well lets not be all doom and gloom. This actually might signal good stuff, like FW taking over the games. They were already doing some epic titans, and mordheim personalities could easily be side projects for their fantasy devision. As for bloodbowl, isn't it rumored to be this years secret item for fall/winter with 4 new sculpted teams?

novemberrain wrote:
Forgeworld is also stopping Specialist games support - confirmed by multiple Taccoms members, including me ringing them.

http://epicaddiction.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/fw-specialist-games-going-too/

 zedmeister wrote:
So, get your Haven Class Spires and Ramilies Starforts for your pensions - they will go for a packet on ebay when they're sold out...

Let's just hope the Chinese/Russian community decides that there's enough of a market to sell them on ebay...

Welp, I suppose the question now is do I grab the BFG and Epic armies I've been meaning to for years now, or just say feth it and spend my money on a game that wants players.

 Lansirill wrote:
Welp, I suppose the question now is do I grab the BFG and Epic armies I've been meaning to for years now, or just say feth it and spend my money on a game that wants players.

Buy it. It's really annoying to have to hunt down OOP models at inflated prices on ebay because you didn't buy them when you had a chance, and someday you'll probably regret not getting them.

More Blood Bowl minis have disappeared including the Wood Elf team set

Man this sucks. Mordheim is definitely one of my favorite games ever.

Looks like they're gone for good. Shame, I was looking forward to Finecast Inquisitor models.

Refrained from dropping a couple hundred on BFG ships I'd wanted to pick up for ages when I realized I've played one game of BFG in 10 years and that it's not likely to change. Pity, the specialist games were some of the best stuff GW ever produced, especially the 40k tied in ones.

Welp, looks like Space Marines are already more or less gone from the US. No scouts or terminators, and 1-2 weeks for regular PA. So much for that chapter I was wanting.

So I lied. I did grab a few of the Mechanicus ships because I think finding them on ebay in the future would suck if I even decided I wanted them. And I've got a dark mechanicus army I've been building for 40k and expanding on thru 6th so far.

Think I might pull a Bender and go make my own Mordheim, with blackjack...

 Hulksmash wrote:
So I lied. I did grab a few of the Mechanicus ships because I think finding them on ebay in the future would suck if I even decided I wanted them. And I've got a dark mechanicus army I've been building for 40k and expanding on thru 6th so far.

We were on to you!

I have no plans to buy BFG ships. No way!

To be fair I only bought the ones that'll probably never show up on Ebay.....To hell with the rest of the stuff. Dropping around $100 for a cruiser squadron and battleship isn't so bad. Wish they still had some of the light cruisers though that would have put a bit more on the cost...

Well played GW, you've solicited another purchase from me due to this.

One Brother Artemis ordered.

BTW When did the free shipping threshold DOUBLE to £20 in the UK?

Oh fecking hell, I've been putting off getting the FW BFG stuff I wanted for ages, now there's no way I'll be able to afford it all before everyone else's panic-buying runs down their stock >:/

Also, I love the excuse the FW guys are being forced to give over the phone; "Yeah sorry, the market just isn't there for them anymore" - hmmmm, hmm, hmmmmmmm, I wonder why that could be.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Think I might pull a Bender and go make my own Mordheim, with blackjack...

Ah forget the Mordheim and the blackjack...

...ah screw the whole thing

 Yodhrin wrote:
Also, I love the excuse the FW guys are being forced to give over the phone; "Yeah sorry, the market just isn't there for them anymore" - hmmmm, hmm, hmmmmmmm, I wonder why that could be.

Now, the real question is whether there isn't a market for the FW stuff, or if GW has ordered them to stop sales and told them to lie about it if anyone asks.

Hm... do I drop more cash on Escher models now, or do I go third party and never play at a GW store/event.


Wait... I already don't play at GW stores/events...

 streamdragon wrote:
Hm... do I drop more cash on Escher models now, or do I go third party and never play at a GW store/event.


Wait... I already don't play at GW stores/events...

Here's the thing though; some of us quite like the actual models. I don't want to have to play BFG with generic sci-fi ships, I like the flying cathedrals :(

 streamdragon wrote:
Hm... do I drop more cash on Escher models now, or do I go third party and never play at a GW store/event.


Wait... I already don't play at GW stores/events...

I'm currently pulling together an Escher gang, and I've got almost every GW Escher model.
After doing some looking I couldn't find many 3rd party models that fitted in with them.

If you've found anything appropriate please let me know

 streamdragon wrote:
Hm... do I drop more cash on Escher models now, or do I go third party and never play at a GW store/event.


Wait... I already don't play at GW stores/events...

There's always deadzone to consider. I'd be surprised if Mantic didn't put out some sort of female only gang...

*sigh*

This is such a shame and so utterly unsurprising that I can't even muster the energy to make a "This is great news!" joke.

*walks away*

 zedmeister wrote:
There's always deadzone to consider. I'd be surprised if Mantic didn't put out some sort of female only gang...

They'd have to offer a worthwhile deal for women-only bundles this time before I'd be interested. I don't want to pay more than GW plastic prices for models without sculpts and with sparse concept art, nor do I want to be told the only way to get a better price per model is to buy some men and orks too.

Me, I hope to buy a ton of Raging Heroes' new lines once they get that Kickstarter up and running.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*sigh*

This is such a shame and so utterly unsurprising that I can't even muster the energy to make a "This is great news!" joke.

*walks away*

It's very sad.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I'm always really confused as to why GW let the 40K tie in elements of Specialist Games die.

Why not just make it that results of games of Necromunda, Gothic or Epic could effect standard 40k games or vice versa. I know the rules aren't the same but surely some kind of Mission table could see this work. I don't think they should need to tie in to regular 40k, it's just something I thought GW would have done.

I thought they did a campaign book that had gothic to 40k stuff. Long out of print, though.

Epic to 40k would be easy in a campaign setting as well. Maybe write the scenario rules for a 'territory' style campaign with a mechanic where a player's campaign-level action can choose to be either a 'Strategic advance' (play a game of Epic) or a 'Tactical strike' (play a game of 40k) with some different victory details to make this a meaningful decision. Maybe make the Strategic Advance reward with less resource points or whatever (it's an expensive option in consumables, and the conquered territory has less population), while the Tactical Strike gets bonuses to intel/research, but less resources of other kinds as there's less forces to really hold and pacify the conquered territory. if desired,a dd a mechanic where each player picks their desired style, and do a matrix table of attacker vs. defender like so:

Attacker Epic/Defender Epic: Epic, standard mission
Attacker 40k/Defender Epic: Roll a d6. 1-3, 40, Infiltration Mission. 4-6, Epic, Fighting Withdrawal Mission
Attacker Epic/Defender 40k: Roll a d6. 1-3, Epic, Standard Mission. 4-6, 40k, Last Stand mission
Attacker 40k/Defender 40k: 40k, standard mission

Necromunda is a bit tougher, as Necromunda factions don't really map 1:1 to 40k factions the way the other games do. They're all various kinds of hive gangs, so in a 40k context they're basically militia ImpGuard might use in a pinch.I think at least one version had some limited support for Space Marines, Genestealers, and a few other bits, but for the most part a lot of 40k factions would have little or no representation.

It must not be worth the money to re-tool the molds into other materials. Since a majority are going to be decades old plastic, Metal or Forgeworld, they would need to spend bandwidth making plastic molds or finecast (bleh).

If I were GW, I would break off the specialist games into its own company the way FW is and say 'here is the IP, go nuts'. Let them live or die as a self-contained unit. Let the specialist games guys bring back the journal and then Kickstart the living gak out of all the old games.

Or give the Necromunda rights to FFG and let me at 'em!!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or give the Necromunda rights to FFG and let me at 'em!!!

Push your FFG contacts to look into it, maynard!