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A skirmish inquisitor game sounds great to me. I skipped 4th and 5th 40K, and missed out on the very cool customized Inquisitor retinues found in Codex: Witchhunters as a result. I'm getting sick of painting 20 figs and moving them around in a big lump like they're one figure.

Plus, it might get me to paint the Rogue Trader 'Adventurers' and 'Imperial Agents' I have stashed away...

I say it is neither.

I say it will be 28mm Bommerz Over Da Sulpha River.

The only thing I don't understand is, why would GW stop all specialist games.....just to make more specialist games....? Also, GW are not ones for making "Gateway Games". They don't let you use models from specialist games in 40k and WHFB play. Or at least, they frown heavily upon it when you do.

What would make more sense is to release a new set of skirmish style rules for 40k (and or WHFB), with some "Special Edition" or "Limited Edition" miniatures.

Shotgun wrote:
I say it is neither.

I say it will be 28mm Bommerz Over Da Sulpha River.

In scale that would probably take up a gymnasium

If this is true, OP just made my day.

I'm surprised at how often Inquisitor crops up in WD (the John Blanche section specifically), so I can believe it.

 Brother SRM wrote:

Shotgun wrote:
I say it is neither.

I say it will be 28mm Bommerz Over Da Sulpha River.

In scale that would probably take up a gymnasium

So we're back to Apoc then are we?

Personally, while this does sound good, I would prefer blood bowl.

Although blood bowl as a one off release with only 2 or 3 teams a la dread fleet and space hulk would suck, so maybe it is for the best that they might not be doing it.

Well it's much more likely I'd buy this than bloodbowl, I don't doubt it's a fun game it just doesn't appeal to me. I'm taking it with a massive pinch of salt though as it does seem to come completely out of left field, when bloodbowl has been brought up as likely for a good while.

One has to wonder if someone has stumbled across inquisimunda and mistaken it for something bigger, still though blanch inspired mini's always lend themselves well to chaos conversions so I wouldn't be displeased to say the least, doubly so if there are dedicated chaos or xenos 'baddies'.

This does make me happy (if true). But the bit about custom cards and dice alarms me, seems like a game that will require buying tons of stuff to play, so $20+ for a model with a card and dice and whatever other proprietary stuff try tossed in.

Oh wait, GW already charges $20+ for a 28mm model, so these will be what? $30? $40? More?

 Fezman wrote:
If this is true, OP just made my day.

I'm surprised at how often Inquisitor crops up in WD (the John Blanche section specifically), so I can believe it.

Inquisitor is the favorite game of a lot of the GW guys. It focuses on telling a story, which is kind of the driving force behind 6th ed 40k and all its "forging a narrative" themes.

Keep in mind that the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books are very, very popular- and those came about because of the developmental work on the 54mm game. Perhaps GW want to give it another shot, realizing that the 54mm scale was a huge mistake- who wants to build sci-fi terrain in that scale? Had it been 28mm...

Then again, just a rumour. If it doesn't pan out there's a LOT of great systems out there that I'd rather use (and do use) for 40K skirmishes anyway.

Shotgun wrote:
I say it is neither.

I say it will be 28mm Bommerz Over Da Sulpha River.

Aieeeee! (runs away screaming)...


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 notprop wrote:
Could an more detailed inquisition based game not step on the toes of their existing license with FFG?

If that was the case then I would be dubious about this rumour.

Sounds like it might almost supplement the FFG RPG with minis, scenery and simpler gameplay, and serve as a gateway game to both 40K and the RPG.

So obviously it won't happen...

T

Even if it is true, I foresee another episode of "Dreadfleet". Dead in water before it even starts. Other skirmish game systems are so far established and developed that GW cannot match and will not gain any profit within the first few years. The end result is that the game will be axed. They gave up on Gorkmorka, Necromunda and Mordheim. What make you decide that GW will make a new skirmish game. Another fanboy wish that is totally unrealistic.

how about they do it as a true gateway game

cardboard figures in the box representing actual GW figures, with boosts in skill/abilities/stats when you buy and use the real figure?

Pay to win in it's purest form

wildger wrote:
Even if it is true, I foresee another episode of "Dreadfleet". Dead in water before it even starts. Other skirmish game systems are so far established and developed that GW cannot match and will not gain any profit within the first few years. The end result is that the game will be axed. They gave up on Gorkmorka, Necromunda and Mordheim. What make you decide that GW will make a new skirmish game. Another fanboy wish that is totally unrealistic.

There's a difference between selling a game no one wants to play (Dreadfleet) and not selling games everyone wanted to play (Necromunda, Gorkamorka, Mordeheim). GW could be crushing the skirmish market now, they simply chose not to. If they change their mind, none of the established skirmish games will pose a serious threat to them.

wildger wrote:
Even if it is true, I foresee another episode of "Dreadfleet". Dead in water before it even starts. Other skirmish game systems are so far established and developed that GW cannot match and will not gain any profit within the first few years. The end result is that the game will be axed. They gave up on Gorkmorka, Necromunda and Mordheim. What make you decide that GW will make a new skirmish game. Another fanboy wish that is totally unrealistic.

I agree, having a gateway game sounds too smart for current GW business practice. Let me summarize the current business strategy for you who are not in the know: "Ship More Plastic! Ship ALL the Plastic!". Besides, how would they shoehorn flyers into a skirmish?

It's more probably Dreadfleet part 2, maybe a 40k version this time, exactly the same with one starship per race

 BryllCream wrote:

 Snrub wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Sounds bloody brilliant to me. But keep up the hate guys!

I haven't seen any hate for it yet. It's just not what people want to see from GW from this release.

Try harder. There are several posts above that simply rip on gw for no real reason.

I'm going to suggest NOT doing that.

Anyway, 40K 6th kind of killed my enthusiasm for 40K, so I'm REALLY hoping this turns out to be true!

Tastytaste is often the bearer of bad news, like his rumour on Sororitas just getting a WD Codex. So chances are, he is right again.

GW's second attempt at doing a 40k gateway game? Knowing GW, it will be an extremely limited release.

I don't see why this should be such a huge flop. If they released rules that enabled people to play with their existing models would that not in principle be a success?

If they also released this book alongside (inside) a ltd ed box with say 10-15 models (for a much more reasonable price) that have multiple uses would this not also be a success?

Selling a book seperately that people can use existing models for is bound to be a success after the limited number of boxes have been sold. Dreadfleet failed on both those counts, and spacehulk I think had expanded rules a few months after(?) So it's following the same principle as that.

Back when Mordheim came out, we sold the HELL out of that game and got sooo many Pokemon kids into WFB it was SICK!!

If there was a 40K skirmish, that would be sweet!!

But, alas...i do belive that would be a smart move so GW will kill the idea in commitee.

wildger wrote:
Even if it is true, I foresee another episode of "Dreadfleet". Dead in water before it even starts. .

Bad joke there, mister.

 prowla wrote:

I agree, having a gateway game sounds too smart for current GW business practice. Let me summarize the current business strategy for you who are not in the know: "Ship More Plastic! Ship ALL the Plastic!". Besides, how would they shoehorn flyers into a skirmish?

It's more probably Dreadfleet part 2, maybe a 40k version this time, exactly the same with one starship per race

They wouldn't do another Dreadfleet since they know it tanked. This thread went from interesting to stupid really quickly.

Also don't forget the boardgame before Dreadfleet was Space Hulk, and that sold out insanely fast. I don't know how well it served as a gateway to 40k, but frankly that's what the starter box is for. The boardgames seem more like personal projects that people at GW would actually want to play.

 prowla wrote:

wildger wrote:

It's more probably Dreadfleet part 2, maybe a 40k version this time, exactly the same with one starship per race

why does that make me think of a BFG re release?

i can totally see them taking BFG and mixing it with the dreadfleet rules, and putting an inquisistion theme on it. 28mm, USELESS to 40k, rehashes an old game system... and it can reuse the templates and designs of dreadfleet, and push out its rules again. then they can be all like "perfect for matching with apocalypse games.. fight space battles to determine part of the narrative for your apoc game etc etc etc" sigh.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 prowla wrote:

I agree, having a gateway game sounds too smart for current GW business practice. Let me summarize the current business strategy for you who are not in the know: "Ship More Plastic! Ship ALL the Plastic!". Besides, how would they shoehorn flyers into a skirmish?

It's more probably Dreadfleet part 2, maybe a 40k version this time, exactly the same with one starship per race

They wouldn't do another Dreadfleet since they know it tanked. This thread went from interesting to stupid really quickly.

Also don't forget the boardgame before Dreadfleet was Space Hulk, and that sold out insanely fast. I don't know how well it served as a gateway to 40k, but frankly that's what the starter box is for. The boardgames seem more like personal projects that people at GW would actually want to play.

Absolutely this. There is no way they'd make that mistake again.

I'd be surprised if there was a stand alone rulebook.

Gw is going to have to actually support a non 40k/WHFB game beyond initial release, and do so for several years, before they win back the good will of the fans.

I've very little interest in trading card games, but hopefully the mini's are good and the game catches on with people who are into his stuff so that they continue to release miniatures for it.

 prowla wrote:
Besides, how would they shoehorn flyers into a skirmish?

Pimped-out Valkyrie as an Inquisitor's personal transport?

I would be all for this.

And in a way it does make sense, as Blanche's art and inquisition warbands have been all over White Dwarf. Perhaps they were trying to get people excited about it without actually announcing it. That would be a very GW thing to do.

I have not enjoyed 40k (the game) in a long time as imo the rules have sucked since 3rd. But I've loved the fluff since back in 2nd edd. Absolutely loved all of GW specialist games, I really loved Inquisitor but as everyone has said the scenery was a big problem, I always had a pipe dream of converting the rules to 28mm. So anywho, if they did make it I will be all over this while I hate myself for paying GW absolutely horrendous prices.

I haven't played a GW game in over a year now, and haven't actually bought a GW product in an even longer period of time. This would get me spending money on them again.

The Inquisition is easily the best part of the 40k universe.