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xruslanx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
One shouldn't need a search engine to figure out the colour of something.

The old names were just as ambiguous, it's just that we grew up with them. I actually prefer the old names to the New™ Ones™ but it's wrong to suggest that "Boltgun Metal" is somehow more helpful than "Russ Grey".

Boltgun Metal is gunmetal, i.e. a dark metallic gray. Russ Grey could be anything if you don't know a lot about 40k.

You all forgot the list in the epic 40k.rulebook that listed when all the armies would be put, nids were 2014 lol

 Palindrome wrote:

xruslanx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
One shouldn't need a search engine to figure out the colour of something.

The old names were just as ambiguous, it's just that we grew up with them. I actually prefer the old names to the New™ Ones™ but it's wrong to suggest that "Boltgun Metal" is somehow more helpful than "Russ Grey".

Boltgun Metal is gunmetal, i.e. a dark metallic gray. Russ Grey could be anything if you don't know a lot about 40k.

And someone who's not into 40k is going to know what colour a boltgun is? None of the old names were descriptive at all, though they were clearer.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
(and gave us such wonderfully non-descriptive names such as XV-88 and The Fang).

No worse than some of the name P3 is takking onto their paints [bloodstone ]

Do you mean the P3 Bloodstone that is actually fairly similar to the shade of red that actual bloodstones have on them?

Except that bloodstone is a green stone with small flecks of red in it.

T

GW paint names have a funny relationship with reality, like one called Midnight or Nightshade Blue, it was distinctly purple.

xruslanx wrote:

 Palindrome wrote:

xruslanx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
One shouldn't need a search engine to figure out the colour of something.

The old names were just as ambiguous, it's just that we grew up with them. I actually prefer the old names to the New™ Ones™ but it's wrong to suggest that "Boltgun Metal" is somehow more helpful than "Russ Grey".

Boltgun Metal is gunmetal, i.e. a dark metallic gray. Russ Grey could be anything if you don't know a lot about 40k.

And someone who's not into 40k is going to know what colour a boltgun is? None of the old names were descriptive at all, though they were clearer.

As already said, gunmetal is an actual thing. You don't need any knowledge of 40k to know what colour that is.


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 Howard A Treesong wrote:
GW paint names have a funny relationship with reality, like one called Midnight or Nightshade Blue, it was distinctly purple.

There was midnight blue and deadly nightshade. I have never used the latter, but I used the former a lot; I presume you're on about the second one.

xruslanx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
One shouldn't need a search engine to figure out the colour of something.

The old names were just as ambiguous, it's just that we grew up with them. I actually prefer the old names to the New™ Ones™ but it's wrong to suggest that "Boltgun Metal" is somehow more helpful than "Russ Grey".

At least with Boltgun Metal, though, you know that it's probably the kind of colour you paint weapons with. What the hell do you use Russ Grey for, if all you saw was Russ Grey?

The old names are disturbingly ingrained in my mind still.
I've often found myself attemping to describe the new kitchen cabinets/girlfriend's dress/bedsheets/curtains/suit to the vendor/girlfriend/confused non gaming friend as,
'Yeah it's kinda this colour here with a little Rotting Flesh/Snakebite Leather/Swooping Hawk Turquoise in it.
Most of the time I stop myself but sometimes they slip out.
Dulux's colour names are pretty wild too!

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
The old names are disturbingly ingrained in my mind still.
I've often found myself attemping to describe the new kitchen cabinets/girlfriend's dress/bedsheets/curtains/suit to the vendor/girlfriend/confused non gaming friend as,
'Yeah it's kinda this colour here with a little Rotting Flesh/Snakebite Leather/Swooping Hawk Turquoise in it.
Most of the time I stop myself but sometimes they slip out.
Dulux's colour names are pretty wild too!

Hell, I call my Vallejo Bonewhite "Bleached Bone".

To be fair to GW, colours like raw umber, burnt ochre and sienna earth are pretty meaningless until you learn them.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair to GW, colours like raw umber, burnt ochre and sienna earth are pretty meaningless until you learn them.

But those are genuine historical colours, couched in years of tradition, and in some cases actual natural materials, you would have a fighting chance of at least knowing what ballpark they were in.

My best guess in a vacuum of The Fang would be something at the ivory/bone end of the spectrum, because, you know, fangs is teef.

I would never in a million years guess at a blue/grey shade.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair to GW, colours like raw umber, burnt ochre and sienna earth are pretty meaningless until you learn them.

Also, chartreuse.

 azreal13 wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair to GW, colours like raw umber, burnt ochre and sienna earth are pretty meaningless until you learn them.

But those are genuine historical colours, couched in years of tradition, and in some cases actual natural materials, you would have a fighting chance of at least knowing what ballpark they were in.

My best guess in a vacuum of The Fang would be something at the ivory/bone end of the spectrum, because, you know, fangs is teef.

I would never in a million years guess at a blue/grey shade.

Dark Reaper and Skavenblight Dinge are two personal favourites of mine.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair to GW, colours like raw umber, burnt ochre and sienna earth are pretty meaningless until you learn them.

Also, chartreuse.

Now, is that a green?

Because if so, there is a drink called chartreuse, which is quite a strong, vibrant green colour.

I genuinely have no idea, but if I'm right, that makes my point. If I'm wrong? Meh.

xruslanx wrote:
The old names were just as ambiguous, it's just that we grew up with them. I actually prefer the old names to the New™ Ones™ but it's wrong to suggest that "Boltgun Metal" is somehow more helpful than "Russ Grey".

"Boltgun Metal" is a 40K twist on the colour "gunmetal" (sometimes called "gunmetal grey").

But no, they really weren't. Some might have been - like Tinz Bitz - but generally things made sense (Tentacle Pink was pink, Hawk Turquoise was turquoise, Ice Blue was light blue). We didn't have any XV-88 or The Fang.

 azreal13 wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
To be fair to GW, colours like raw umber, burnt ochre and sienna earth are pretty meaningless until you learn them.

Also, chartreuse.

Now, is that a green?

Because if so, there is a drink called chartreuse, which is quite a strong, vibrant green colour.

I genuinely have no idea, but if I'm right, that makes my point. If I'm wrong? Meh.

I'm not a drinker, so I don't know if the drink still has the same color as the color, so to speak. I wasn't even aware the drink still existed.

But yes, it's a yellowish green(it's actually classed as halfway between the two).

5 years behind a hotel bar, I know all sorts of weird and wonderful drinks!

Here's the color value version of Chartreuse.

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
The old names are disturbingly ingrained in my mind still.
I've often found myself attemping to describe the new kitchen cabinets/girlfriend's dress/bedsheets/curtains/suit to the vendor/girlfriend/confused non gaming friend as,
'Yeah it's kinda this colour here with a little Rotting Flesh/Snakebite Leather/Swooping Hawk Turquoise in it.
Most of the time I stop myself but sometimes they slip out.
Dulux's colour names are pretty wild too!

I do this, too. Especially when describing shades of brown. "This one is Vermin, that color is Bestial, there is Snakebite Leather.."

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
And does everyone have internet with them 24/7?

@Kroothawk: Thanks for that, didn't know that existed!

Funny I was just in a shop and thank goodness they had that posted next to the paints.

I mean silver is now 'runefang steel'? I mean steel is DIFFERENT #$%^ING COLOR than silver.

Feh.

GW colour names are awful for the most part.

Luckily the problem can be very easily solved by buying paints from a different range such as Vallejo or Coat d'Arms.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Luckily the problem can be very easily solved by buying paints from a different range such as Vallejo or Coat d'Arms.

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 azreal13 wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Luckily the problem can be very easily solved by buying paints from a different range such as Vallejo or Coat d'Arms.

azreal likes this.

Then you get weird looks from people who only use GW paints. "Negro black" WTF kind of colour is that?!?

No, they put the Spanish names on first....



True story.

Cote d'arms range is actually the old gw range with slightly amended names. Can be a wee bit confusing, but not in the same league as skavenblight dinge™

There is also the other side - paint names that are too descriptive.

Secret Weapon has a wash color named Baby Poop Brown....

The Auld Grump, well... at least I know what color it is....

It's not as if GW's new paint range were the first GW paints to have silly names. I think it started with the Foundation Paints. Iyanden Darksun and Necron Abyss were two utterly meaningless descriptions.

But we're drifting... heavily...

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
The Auld Grump, well... at least I know what color it is....

This begs a bigger question, what colour is The Auld Grump? I want to say "grey", or, as it would be in GW parlance, Old Man's Wheeze™.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
There is also the other side - paint names that are too descriptive.

Secret Weapon has a wash color named Baby Poop Brown....

The Auld Grump, well... at least I know what color it is....

I have twins, baby poop comes in a lot of shades of brown and some other colors as well.

So not all that helpful a name.



Anyway aren't we off topic now?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
There is also the other side - paint names that are too descriptive.

Secret Weapon has a wash color named Baby Poop Brown....

The Auld Grump, well... at least I know what color it is....

I have twins, baby poop comes in a lot of shades of brown and some other colors as well.

So not all that helpful a name.



Anyway aren't we off topic now?

Maybe... just a little....

Back on topic... I seem to recall that once upon a time, when the whole idea of the Undead army lists being split between VC and TK was a new thing....

Wasn't there supposed to be another blood line that was supposed to appear in White Dwarf, a bloodline that was kindly disposed towards humans, if I recall correctly....

The Auld Grump, back in the Paul Sawyer days of White Dwarf, that was.

God damn that hive infestation movie is so freaking cool.