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3D Print one. It may be heavy but you can get the looks you want!

CrusaderJim wrote:
3D Print one. It may be heavy but you can get the looks you want!

Where the hell would you go, and how much would it cost?
You can't 3D print everything.

CrusaderJim wrote:
3D Print one. It may be heavy but you can get the looks you want!

Congratulations, now you just spent more than the cost of the FW one for a proxy that doesn't look anywhere near as nice.

Okay, it's getting way too personal in here. If you're directing anything at another poster, it better be a polite statement, and not an insult.

edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

 Swastakowey wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

I would very much doubt it. Forge world use a relatively high quality resin. Smaller companies, especially recasters are likely using low quality materials to mass produce their products as cheap as possible. The massively lower price alone hints that the item is almost certainly not of the same quality. The fact that it is a recast at all suggests that the companies motives are probably not too healthy. Therefore it stands to reason for me to come to the conclusion that this item would very likely be of a lower quality.
Sure some independent companies use better materials, this wouldn't be one of them. Not if they are recasting another companies products.

XXXX

GoingtoHell wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

I would very much doubt it. Forge world use a relatively high quality resin. Smaller companies, especially recasters are likely using low quality materials to mass produce their products as cheap as possible. The massively lower price alone hints that the item is almost certainly not of the same quality. The fact that it is a recast at all suggests that the companies motives are probably not too healthy. Therefore it stands to reason for me to come to the conclusion that this item would very likely be of a lower quality.
Sure some independent companies use better materials, this wouldn't be one of them. Not if they are recasting another companies products.

XXXX

1 year ago i would have said the same thing. anyways enough of this topic.

GoingtoHell wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

I would very much doubt it. Forge world use a relatively high quality resin. Smaller companies, especially recasters are likely using low quality materials to mass produce their products as cheap as possible. The massively lower price alone hints that the item is almost certainly not of the same quality. The fact that it is a recast at all suggests that the companies motives are probably not too healthy. Therefore it stands to reason for me to come to the conclusion that this item would very likely be of a lower quality.
Sure some independent companies use better materials, this wouldn't be one of them. Not if they are recasting another companies products.

XXXX

Or Forgeworld is overcharging out the ass.
Which is more likely out of the two?

 ThePrimordial wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

I would very much doubt it. Forge world use a relatively high quality resin. Smaller companies, especially recasters are likely using low quality materials to mass produce their products as cheap as possible. The massively lower price alone hints that the item is almost certainly not of the same quality. The fact that it is a recast at all suggests that the companies motives are probably not too healthy. Therefore it stands to reason for me to come to the conclusion that this item would very likely be of a lower quality.
Sure some independent companies use better materials, this wouldn't be one of them. Not if they are recasting another companies products.

XXXX

Or Forgeworld is overcharging out the ass.
Which is more likely out of the two?

considering the terrors i have purchased from forge world i say they are over priced. End result is great but not worth the effort given the alternatives.

 ThePrimordial wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

I would very much doubt it. Forge world use a relatively high quality resin. Smaller companies, especially recasters are likely using low quality materials to mass produce their products as cheap as possible. The massively lower price alone hints that the item is almost certainly not of the same quality. The fact that it is a recast at all suggests that the companies motives are probably not too healthy. Therefore it stands to reason for me to come to the conclusion that this item would very likely be of a lower quality.
Sure some independent companies use better materials, this wouldn't be one of them. Not if they are recasting another companies products.

XXXX

Or Forgeworld is overcharging out the ass.
Which is more likely out of the two?

Both. Forge world heinously overcharges but their stiff is still a big step up from everyone else. From GW in terms of sculpting form recasters the actual quality of the material.

XXXX

 Swastakowey wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:

davethepak wrote:
edited:

Build it, and do the best you can, quality people will respect you for it.

I will play you.

Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Just sayin.

Already bought a better made re-cast one for $400.
I like this attitude though. It's what the game is about.

I very much doubt it's better made.

XXXX

You will be very very surprised.

I would very much doubt it. Forge world use a relatively high quality resin. Smaller companies, especially recasters are likely using low quality materials to mass produce their products as cheap as possible. The massively lower price alone hints that the item is almost certainly not of the same quality. The fact that it is a recast at all suggests that the companies motives are probably not too healthy. Therefore it stands to reason for me to come to the conclusion that this item would very likely be of a lower quality.
Sure some independent companies use better materials, this wouldn't be one of them. Not if they are recasting another companies products.

XXXX

Or Forgeworld is overcharging out the ass.
Which is more likely out of the two?

considering the terrors i have purchased from forge world i say they are over priced. End result is great but not worth the effort given the alternatives.

BTW Thanks, again.

All the people bringing up the Dreamforge Leviathan as a viable option for someone looking for a REAVER proxy seem to be missing the point. And $100 for a Dreamforge is still expensive.

The one guy who thinks his recast is made from superior resin to Forge World is dreaming.

 Tyberos the Red Wake wrote:
All the people bringing up the Dreamforge Leviathan as a viable option for someone looking for a REAVER proxy seem to be missing the point. And $100 for a Dreamforge is still expensive.

The one guy who thinks his recast is made from superior resin to Forge World is dreaming.

have you seen recasts? They are superior if you dont buy from asians or online shops...

I said resin and he said quality of material. Nowhere was cast quality mention.

It is also impossible to have a recast that is higher quality than the master.

 Tyberos the Red Wake wrote:
I said resin and he said quality of material. Nowhere was cast quality mention.

It is also impossible to have a recast that is higher quality than the master.

Exactly

XXXX

 Tyberos the Red Wake wrote:
I said resin and he said quality of material. Nowhere was cast quality mention.

It is also impossible to have a recast that is higher quality than the master.

have you compared them before? You are wrong unless you buy from the wrong people.

They dont come cacked oin flashing. No need to wash off all the lubricant. The peices actually fit together without effort and its far cheaper. The only downside is the clear bits arent great SOMETIMES. But most will replace them because they are nice

davethepak wrote:
Oh and side note; forgeworld sales don't support your FLGS.

Neither does scratchbuilding a titan.

Not that this really matters much, since a store gets "support" by selling a product that I want to buy, not because I feel like making a charity donation.

By better quality I meant the type of resin used, and it's qualities.

 ThePrimordial wrote:
By better quality I meant the type of resin used, and it's qualities.

What type of resin have they used then? I very much doubt that it is better quality and the cost was so significantly less.

XXXX

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:
By better quality I meant the type of resin used, and it's qualities.

What type of resin have they used then? I very much doubt that it is better quality and the cost was so significantly less.

XXXX

Its called Neo Resin. Its new to the scene. Newer/more popular the kit the higher chances its in neo resin.

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:
By better quality I meant the type of resin used, and it's qualities.

What type of resin have they used then? I very much doubt that it is better quality and the cost was so significantly less.

XXXX

And may I ask where you got it from?

MOD: Please don't offer recasts, or information about how to get them, on DakkaDakka.

 ThePrimordial wrote:
Or Forgeworld is overcharging out the ass.
Which is more likely out of the two?

I don't know if Forgeworld "overcharges". I will say that unlike the recaster you bought from, Forge World has to pay for the research and development that went into that kit. Somewhere in Nottingham, there is a sculptor or more probably a team of sculptors spent a really long time making that kit, getting everything to fit, getting the molds made and - it's hard for me to say this with a straight face, but - working out quality issues with the molds so you could have a nice kit. All of this happens in a first world country to a person who has a safe work environment, a reasonable wage, and so on, for allegedly 18 months.

The recaster just has to make molds using child labor and whatever silicone and resin is the cheapest regardless of if it, say, gives off carcinogenic fumes or not (for example). They don't have to design anything, they don't have to pay taxes or issue returns or refunds or do any development and they can pay their workers pennies on the dollar.

So don't try and rationalize saving money by getting recast goods by saying "well, Forge World is overpriced". It cost them a lot of money to make that Reaver. No product made legitimately can compete with recasting.

So far as scatchbuilding one, I would not try and do a Reaver in that method. The model itself does not, in my opinion, lend itself to a plasticard build in the way that most tanks and even a Warhound do.

 Ouze wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:
Or Forgeworld is overcharging out the ass.
Which is more likely out of the two?

I don't know if Forgeworld "overcharges". I will say that unlike the recaster you bought from, Forge World has to pay for the research and development that went into that kit. Somewhere in Nottingham, there is a sculptor or more probably a team of sculptors spent a really long time making that kit, getting everything to fit, getting the molds made and - it's hard for me to say this with a straight face, but - working out quality issues with the molds so you could have a nice kit. All of this happens in a first world country to a person who has a safe work environment, a reasonable wage, and so on, for allegedly 18 months.

This is a very good point. But dont buy recasts from chinese places.

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:
By better quality I meant the type of resin used, and it's qualities.

What type of resin have they used then? I very much doubt that it is better quality and the cost was so significantly less.

XXXX

Forgeworld overcharges by quite a bit friend.
How much does 6 pounds of resin cost?
Certainly not $800+.
And by quite a bit I mean anywhere from 4-5 times the cost of production.

 ThePrimordial wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 ThePrimordial wrote:
By better quality I meant the type of resin used, and it's qualities.

What type of resin have they used then? I very much doubt that it is better quality and the cost was so significantly less.

XXXX

Forgeworld overcharges by quite a bit friend.
How much does 6 pounds of resin cost?
Certainly not $800+.
And by quite a bit I mean anywhere from 4-5 times the cost of production.

And yet that is not how things are costed. You don't cost a painting according to the worth of the material it is composed of. It's a small factor but its the actual process by which it was designed and made which warrants the cost.

 ThePrimordial wrote:
Forgeworld overcharges by quite a bit friend.
How much does 6 pounds of resin cost?
Certainly not $800+..

That's like saying that every restaurant in the world overcharges for every meal that costs more than the base components do at the supermarket.