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 Crazyterran wrote:
Honestly, the scouts and vanguard formation make me want to actually take Vanguard Veterans. Heck, they don't even need to use the scouts to get the charge, so long as they deep strike they can do it.

Take one of these with a drop pod heavy list, throw a few locator beacons in...

Heck, one of these and a Skyhammer wouldn't be too bad, either. Give you a solid punch after you drown them in the grav.

Yeah, I am really reconsidering my plot to convert the VV into Sternguard. I already converted a box of VV into Honour Guard. I would need a ton more scouts than I already have though.

Gonna pre-order the Raven Guard data cards. Haven't bought anything for 40K in years but I don't want to miss this.

I guess this is the closest I'm ever going to get to a Raven Guard supplement codex like the Iron Hands and Imperial Fists got. Raven Guard Warlord Traits!

I'm not up to date on the new Damocles supplement. Is that just a narrative campaign supplement with rules for the new unique models? Or does it include the rules for the Warlord Traits, and Raven Guard relics? It appears to be sold out now anyway. All I'm interested in are Raven Guard Warlord Traits and Artifacts.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Gonna pre-order the Raven Guard data cards. Haven't bought anything for 40K in years but I don't want to miss this.

I guess this is the closest I'm ever going to get to a Raven Guard supplement codex like the Iron Hands and Imperial Fists got. Raven Guard Warlord Traits!

I'm not up to date on the new Damocles supplement. Is that just a narrative campaign supplement with rules for the new unique models? Or does it include the rules for the Warlord Traits, and Raven Guard relics? It appears to be sold out now anyway. All I'm interested in are Raven Guard Warlord Traits and Artifacts.

The Kau'yon book does not include the boxed set rules. The boxed sets are best thought of as "learning boxes".

The book is where you'll probably find the Warlord traits for Raven Guard, in addition to definitely being where you will find the new Raven Guard themed formations(Pinion Demi-Company and Shadowstrike Kill-Team)

Not particularly bothered about formations. I just want Raven Guard Warlord traits and relics. I take it the Raven Guard counterpart to the Kauyon book is not out yet?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Not particularly bothered about formations. I just want Raven Guard Warlord traits and relics. I take it the Raven Guard counterpart to the Kauyon book is not out yet?

We don't know if there will be one.
As it stands, the Kau'yon book is the only thing we know of for this "Campaign". It's a two book set, one with fluff and the other with rules.

Additionally it's worth mentioning that the only thing making the boxed set's character unique is his helmet. Everything else can be created via the Codex and his Warlord trait is even on the main Space Marine Warlord Trait table.

Oh so Kauyon has both Tau and Raven Guard rules?

Thats handy. Theres a guy who has Tau at my club. We're currently only playing RPG's and board games but lots of us have old 40K armies and might start it up again in future. I could get the book and share it I suppose.

Edit: Ah, its a two book set. I thought Kauyon was one book, with a second companion book for the Raven Guard coming soon.

It should be noted that thus far, none of the rules outside the Solaq boxes set are Raven Guard only. There will RG and WS cards in the book, but nothing else has been revealed that is chapter specific. So far, all we have seen is the Pinion BDC and the Shadowstrike Kill Team, neither of which are chapter specific.


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Nevermind, the cards are separate. They come with the Warlord Traits. There is a new bundle for WS that comes with a crap ton of bikes and a few speeders. $300. Haven't priced out if it is a deal or not.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
. There is a new bundle for WS that comes with a crap ton of bikes and a few speeders. $300. Haven't priced out if it is a deal or not.

If my math is correct - you save $1.75.

Sweet!

I just ordered the Kauyon Book today. I forgot about the cards, but not sure if I will get them or not. Probably will.

What I like is that the Kauyon books cover the additions to the new Tau codex, so you don't have to buy both to get all the rules. That was a surprise when I read that, since GW isn't making you have to buy both to get all the rules.

White Scars get a decurion style detachment, currently uploading the image.

Warhams-77 wrote:
White Scars get a decurion style detachment, currently uploading the image.

What?! Bikes and speeders I bet. Is it the Lancet Strike Force that was described months ago?

I made this screenshot of a preview page in the iStore - not much information rules-wise but it gives an idea whats coming:

Cool, so White Scars get their own unique formation.

Seen one for Raven Guard?

No photo of the Raven Guard one yet but it was mentioned in WD they would be getting their own detachment (which in GW PR speak meant since Dark Angels a Decurion-style detachment, same with Tau). I am pretty sure there will be one for RG.


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The Black Library website says this in the Kauyon description:

"Heroes of Prefectia: New relics, warlord traits, Detachments and Formations for the Raven Guard and White Scars, as well as rules for new Tau Empire units and fortifications. If you have the 2013 edition of Codex: Tau Empire, everything you need to bring your Tau Empire collection up to date can be found in this book."

Raven Guard will get:

Pinion Demi Battle Company
Shadowstrike Kill Team
Bladewing Assault Brotherhood
Skyhammer Orbital Strike Force
Ravenhawk Assault Group
Raptor Wing
Shadow Force

Halandaar on B&C posted photos of the Captain sprues

Not bad of a sprue Definitely gonna hunt one down for the helmet

Thanks, Thud Your information comes from 4chan?

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1445723027900.png

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I compared it with the sample, the table of content should be correct.



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I rehosted the picture

Woooooooow, okay.

I just hope that the Imperial win this time -_-

I can tell you right now that they do not. The battle which preceded the events of the army box was "Agrellan"/"Battle of Mugulath Bay"(where the Tau first employed Riptides)...and the Imperium lost pretty hard.

It will be interesting to see if the Stormlance is restricted to White Scars, or if the fluff parts are just saying it's traditionally used by the White Scars.

After all, any chapter can use the Pinion...

EDIT: reading the page titles, it seems the T'au win, but the Imperium has finally taken notice of their shenanigans. After all, taking a Fortress World is a bit different then taking some barely defended Hive Worlds and backwater Agri/Mining Worlds.

Still, the Tau winning makes me sad.

Nice ultramarine sprue. No Raven Guard anything, thought it had a raven on the leg but its clearly an Aquila.

Someone remind me to wait before ordering this, so I don't go and spend 60 bucks on the ebook edition before it comes out, and find out all the Formations are mostly bad.

Though, the real book is tempting because of the cover, despite me not playing Tau. It's really good.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Someone remind me to wait before ordering this, so I don't go and spend 60 bucks on the ebook edition before it comes out, and find out all the Formations are mostly bad.

Though, the real book is tempting because of the cover, despite me not playing Tau. It's really good.

It has the Skyhammer Orbital Strike Force.

That's the one which came with the web bundle, that people flipped their noggins about.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Someone remind me to wait before ordering this, so I don't go and spend 60 bucks on the ebook edition before it comes out, and find out all the Formations are mostly bad.

Though, the real book is tempting because of the cover, despite me not playing Tau. It's really good.

It has the Skyhammer Orbital Strike Force.

That's the one which came with the web bundle, that people flipped their noggins about.

No, the one from the online only sale was the Skyhammer Annihilation Force.

The Skyhammer Orbital Strike Force was the old one that had tactical marines.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Thanks, Thud Your information comes from 4chan?

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1445723027900.png

I got no clue how to find stuff on 4chan. Link?
Edit: Nevermind, figured it out and got some free goodies.

I was looking at the Ebook preview, and Korsarro Khan calls Shrike 'Chapter Master Shrike'.

Dun dun dunnnn.

The Kauyon book has leaked by accident on BL. Talon Strike Force and Scarblade Strike Force are exclusive to Raven Guard and White Scars, respectively. The formations within(many which are quite nice) are not. Nothing allows you to use any of the formations within in a Gladius Strike Force. Looks like I won't be getting this book. It's a shame too, since I really wanted to use the two Battle Demi-Companies within in some capacity.



The White Scars Company force can totally spam bikes, either by going full on bikes through the Hunting Force, or running half bikes, half regular with the Stormlance Battle Demi-Company. Either way, Scars plays should absolutely look at this book. It makes bike spam so awesome.

White Scars players or Thunderdome players should get this book, because the Hunters Eye relic gives the wearer +1 BS, and himself and his unit Ignores Cover.

One Smashfether takes the shield eternal, you talk eKhan, and give one of your Librarius librarians the Hunters Eye, since each character can choose what relic list he takes from. You can't have a character using relics from both, but you can have two characters from the same detachment with relics from the separate lists.

Hell, even if you don't take the Khan and take Smashfether instead, take a Librarian, put him in a bike with level 2, give him hunters eye, and have your grav command squad ignore cover.

I might still buy the book, since I own a small tau army. We'll have to see.

But yeah, the hunters eye... 20 points for guaranteed ignores cover.