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Janthkin wrote: *sigh* Someday, I just want the Romulan war. Enterprise really squandered an opportunity there.
I disagree that the show squandered it. They were building up to it but abruptly cancelled before really getting the chance to explore it over the full seven seasons typically allowed for a Star Trek show of that era. CBS/Paramount (I think that was pre-split) squandered it, not the show "Enterprise". While the final episode was indeed stupid, I'd rather not have then cram a useless ending to a long arc hurriedly into the final episode ala the B5 season series "finale" which then became the season 4 finale after it was picked up after the ending.
Actually, Sleeping in Light was going to be the series finale, and was filmed for season 4. That's why the episode had Ivanova in it. When B5 was surprisingly renewed, they had to scramble to write a season finale for season 4, which is where The Deconstruction of Falling Stars came from.
Anyway, I would prefer for the new series to have its own continuity at this point rather than having to accommodate Enterprise or Into Darkness. Also, setting the new series in the Prime universe could invalidate the novelverse, which has been the best source of Trek for a decade.
Janthkin wrote: *sigh* Someday, I just want the Romulan war. Enterprise really squandered an opportunity there.
I disagree that the show squandered it. They were building up to it but abruptly cancelled before really getting the chance to explore it over the full seven seasons typically allowed for a Star Trek show of that era. CBS/Paramount (I think that was pre-split) squandered it, not the show "Enterprise". While the final episode was indeed stupid, I'd rather not have then cram a useless ending to a long arc hurriedly into the final episode ala the B5 season series "finale" which then became the season 4 finale after it was picked up after the ending.
Actually, Sleeping in Light was going to be the series finale, and was filmed for season 4. That's why the episode had Ivanova in it. When B5 was surprisingly renewed, they had to scramble to write a season finale for season 4, which is where The Deconstruction of Falling Stars came from.
warboss wrote: I disagree that the show squandered it. They were building up to it but abruptly cancelled before really getting the chance to explore it over the full seven seasons typically allowed for a Star Trek show of that era. CBS/Paramount (I think that was pre-split) squandered it, not the show "Enterprise". While the final episode was indeed stupid, I'd rather not have then cram a useless ending to a long arc hurriedly into the final episode ala the B5 season series "finale" which then became the season 4 finale after it was picked up after the ending.
If they'd spent less time on the bizarre temporal cold war & space terrorism plots (and perhaps less time oiling up Vulcans...), they may have had the time to explore some of these canonical elements from the early days of the post-Warp human presence in space.
That the show got canceled before it could really dig into what I wanted to see does not excuse how they spent they time they did have. Hence, squandered.
I'm certainly no fan of either over arching story lines (temporal cold war and the xindi superweapon) but they finally got their act together in the final season. Even TNG was pretty crappy for the first two seasons but finally got going in the 3rd and for the most part kept going strong. I'd say the same for DS9 (I wasn't a fan of the pre-Defiant episodes that forced them to be on the station so much) as well. I never watched Voyager enough to make a call on that series.
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Hercules wrote:Will CBS’ New STAR TREK Series Be Set Before Archer And After Janeway?? Rumors Abound!!
Three rumors have emerged regarding the CBS All Access Star Trek series launching in January:
1) The series will be set in the Shatnerverse, and not the Quintoverse established in the 2009 J.J. Abrams movie.
2) Rather than confine itself to a single era in Starfleet history, each season of the new series will tackle a different era. Each season could go pre-Archer, post-Janeway, or any timeframe in between.
3) The first CBS season will take place between the events of “Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country” and the launch of the Enterprise-D in “Star Trek: The Next Generation.”
This is different from the concept Bryan Fuller was considering before he got the job running CBS’ Trek. That idea dealt with the new ship and crew operating concurrently with the Abrams-produced movies in the Quintoverse.
It's entirely possible that Paramount execs, who control the Star Trek movie rights, requested that CBS not utilize the Quintoverse established for the big screen in 2009.
If you’ve not heard, “Star Trek VI” writer-director Nicholas Meyer is helping Fuller write the new Trek series.
I thought part of the reason that the Voyager crew integrated so quickly was because the Maquis were not against Starfleet/Starfleets Ideals so much as they were against the limp wristed approach Starfleet seemed to be taking with the Cardassians.
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Crimson wrote: Yeah, Dax was obviously a bisexual, but it would be good for the new series to have a human LGBT character.
It seems like every book these days has at least one LGBT character in it. Usually not one of the main characters, but they are there. I suspect there probably will be at least some one-episode characters that are bisexual/homosexual, if not a main character. The books are a precedent for this.
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Crimson wrote: Yeah, Dax was obviously a bisexual, but it would be good for the new series to have a human LGBT character.
It seems like every book these days has at least one LGBT character in it. Usually not one of the main characters, but they are there. I suspect there probably will be at least some one-episode characters that are bisexual/homosexual, if not a main character. The books are a precedent for this.
The Trek novels have always been hardcore on the IDIC. More minorities, more orientations, more aliens: it's what defines Star trek for a large segment of the fandom. As real life has become more progressive, Trek novels have had to push that much farther. They almost seem to be running out of new "diversities" to explore.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I guess there were only so many times the fans could hear Nichelle Nichols' story about talking with Dr. King about Trek before they internalized it. Trek=diversity.
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2) Rather than confine itself to a single era in Starfleet history, each season of the new series will tackle a different era. Each season could go pre-Archer, post-Janeway, or any timeframe in between.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: It is interesting but it will be refreshing not following the same captain and crew for years on end.
Fixed your typo?
I think this is a great idea. A serial anthology format would allow them to do some really good storytelling, as opposed to standard episodic pinchy-foreheaded-alien-of-the-week format. But then Trek fans like change as much as Indy likes snakes.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: It is interesting but it will be refreshing not following the same captain and crew for years on end.
Fixed your typo?
I think this is a great idea. A serial anthology format would allow them to do some really good storytelling, as opposed to standard episodic pinchy-foreheaded-alien-of-the-week format. But then Trek fans like change as much as Indy likes snakes.
I guess so. The monotony of following the same crew for years and really getting into their lives is part of trek though. I'm open to them trying something different. Maybe there will still be some sort of over arching storyline that will tie everything together between the timelines.
The thing is, the anthology format was both the original idea of both "Heroes" *and* "Legends of Tomorrow." What happened with both very quickly was, "hey, this show is popular, these actors are popular, lets keep them all."
KamikazeCanuck wrote: It is interesting but it will be refreshing not following the same captain and crew for years on end.
Fixed your typo?
I think this is a great idea. A serial anthology format would allow them to do some really good storytelling, as opposed to standard episodic pinchy-foreheaded-alien-of-the-week format. But then Trek fans like change as much as Indy likes snakes.
Yes, heaven forfend people who like a thing for certain qualities want its new iteration to retain those qualities, what monsters
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They've put up a teaser. Not much to it, just some CGI followed by a logo. Still, it's just an add to let everyone know this is a thing and it'll be airing next year.
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