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Chinese new years are funny, it's like they shut down for an entire month. Never try to order anything in mid-dec to February!

 Kirasu wrote:
Chinese new years are funny, it's like they shut down for an entire month. Never try to order anything in mid-dec to February!

Basically the same as July-august in much of Europe. Everyone takes 4-5 weeks of vacation and it's impossible to get anything done. You try to schedule everything by mid-June because after that nothing happens anywhere until mid-late August, or if it does it's done by inexperienced summer workers :p

That's too broad a timeframe, I ordered some items in early January and was able to get them expedited and out before CNY, and many companies are back to work now (not CMON's though, it seems!). It's a little longer, but honestly not unlike the holidays here, imo.

Is this the main thread for this Ks?

Its due to start on Tuesday 3Pm EST

https://m.facebook.com/risingsunboardgame/

There is also a quiz to determine which mini you are
http://quiz.cmon.com

I am the Bonsai Daimyo apparently(?!)

Looking good though and eagerly awaiting the start of the KS!

Hi

Exactly , what is the quality level of the minis of blood rage?

Im very interested in this kickctarter , but will the production mini resemble the one presented in the sneak peek?

saluti

Blood rage minis are Excellent , in fact for board game plastic they are the new benchmark people compare models to.

Darth Visari wrote:
Hi

Exactly , what is the quality level of the minis of blood rage?

Im very interested in this kickctarter , but will the production mini resemble the one presented in the sneak peek?

saluti

Substantially lower quality, I'm afraid. Those are the resin masters, whereas the game contents will be CMON's bendy plastic. If Blood Rage is anything to go by, the miniatures will still be nice, but finer details will be lost, and you may experience some severe mold lines. If you're only interested in the Kickstarter due to the collector quality miniatures showcased (ie. indifferent to the actual game), you might find it best to give it a pass.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:

Darth Visari wrote:
Hi

Exactly , what is the quality level of the minis of blood rage?

Im very interested in this kickctarter , but will the production mini resemble the one presented in the sneak peek?

saluti

Substantially lower quality, I'm afraid. Those are the resin masters, whereas the game contents will be CMON's bendy plastic. If Blood Rage is anything to go by, the miniatures will still be nice, but finer details will be lost, and you may experience some severe mold lines. If you're only interested in the Kickstarter due to the collector quality miniatures showcased (ie. indifferent to the actual game), you might find it best to give it a pass.

I had no mold lines what so ever with my blood rage stuff, I backed the Kickstarter and got everything but the art book. As for bendy the only bent things I got were spears and swords, which with a quick hot water bath and then a cold water bath after straightening they were resolved. I've not heard of bad mold lines with them either.

@Theophony
Well, that's both good to hear in regards to the quality I can expect from this, and disappointing given the amount of what can only be described as mold slipping and smothered details I got with my Blood Rage pledge. Bought everything, including the art book, and it's more a matter of certain sculpts being consistently "damaged". The Raven Clan are the worst affected, with boot wrappings and cord melting into each other, and huge lines running over the shoulders of the sculpt with the two ravens, resulting in bisected, blob-like birds. A few miniatures here and there have some shallow detail when it comes to the Norse symbols and swirls etched into or rising out of armor plates, but by and large, most miniatures are unaffected, bar some intense flash.

Not trying to put anyone off, just sharing my experience. Overall I am very happy with them, and the more perfect sculpts certainly outnumber the poor casts.

I've been painting my Blood Rage minis lately so am very much aware of some of the mold line issues. I agree with Tim that most of the sculpts are fine. In particular, the big monsters have excellent detail, and most of the regular infantry-sized dudes do too -- certainly much better than on Reaper Bones minis of that size. I found the mold lines removable by the usual techniques on PVC plastic (slice, don't scrape) though some were tough to remove without also losing detail. Still an incredible deal for the quality of minis and game (I backed the KS for the regular game only).


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Oh, and I have some reasonable quality pics of my reasonable quality paint jobs of some of the big monsters from Blood Rage here:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/699224.page

You're looking in the wrong place for high-quality miniatures if you're looking at boardgame plastic. Nobody owns Japanese mythology, so go to the Reaper Miniatures KS boards and wait for someone to post yet another Japanese mythology miniatures KS. I think there's one right now, although they've only shown renders. CMON miniatures are much better than most retail boardgame plastic miniatures, and, imo, fine for advanced tabletop painting.

I had some Reaper Bones minis, and I think the Blood Rage minis look better.

Although, yes... if you want high quality plastics, boardgames is not where to look.

Even though there have been HUGE advances in the miniatures, these are boardgame companies making miniatures. Not the other way around.

No early birds, which is probably good because Kickstarter is totally borked as has become the norm with CMoN launches.

ecurtz wrote:
No early birds, which is probably good because Kickstarter is totally borked as has become the norm with CMoN launches.

Although you'll note they strategically forgot to mention that before launch...

I think this may be the highest initial funding goal I've seen from CMON. Amusing that even without early birds and only one pledge level they still broke Kickstarter.

It funded in like 22 minutes and doubled that about 5 minutes later.

I like having just one pledge level.

Can't wait to see what the Add-ons / Stretch Goals are.

Link!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/rising-sun

Looks quite tempting, although to be honest I'm not a fan of the stretch goal monsters so far, they're too human-sized. The base game sculpts look incredible, though!

I asked on KS, but did anyone see anything regarding scale?

Scroll down to the dragon mini and human figure. All of the pics on the home page are scaled to the human.

I love that there are no early birds! Can't stand the F5 game.

Some of the minis look quite nice, I'll see how this one plays out before deciding.

Blood Rage models are pretty solid quality. They're obviously not resin, but to refer to them only as "board game plastic" is a tad insulting - they have actual, discernable facial features

On the scale thing; assuming these models are along the same lines as the BR ones, then the basic human models will be on ~25mm bases, so that would give you some idea of their size & proportions. I was actually surprised by how slight the BR models turned out to be.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
I asked on KS, but did anyone see anything regarding scale?

Got my ambiguous answer of, still working things out, somewhere in the 228-32mm range.

sounds like sculpted at 32mm and we haven't got a test cast in PVC to see how much they shrink yet (fair enough as we know from their other recent stuff they now allow for shrinkage in the detail)

Wow, amazed by how much this has raked in in such a short period of time!

Re. the miniatures comments, I'm amazed at how derogatory the comments are towards some of the more recent board game miniature quality. In my view in some cases they have taken massive steps forward, and for anyone of moderate painting ability carries more than enough detail to result in an impressive looking piece (be it for wargaming or a board game). I'm thinking here of the likes of Zombicide BP and Conan. Check out some of the gallery and threat posts by the likes of AAN on this forum.

I only say this because you might get a number of people who haven't seen for themself, go away thinking "well that won't be as good as my space marines I won't bother", when in actual fact it isn't the case a lot of the time.

Blood Rage was fantastic. Well written rules, played brilliantly, and the models were very good, the bigger ones especially.

Will be backing for sure.

Okay, the addition of Godzilla just got me to back

 RiTides wrote:
Okay, the addition of Godzilla just got me to back

RUN! IT'S GODZILLA!

It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright laws, it's not.

STILL! WE SHOULD RUN LIKE IT IS GODZILLA!

Although it isn't.



This KS is getting better and better. I would love to see it just keep blowing up. There's a lot of hype around it for many reasons.

With the kaiju coming, what do you think we see next? A giant bug or a dragon with multiple heads?

Just with it was a bit bigger.

Agreed - Kaiju should be appropriately Kaiju-sized!

It's odd, they don't show the miniatures in the material/quality they sell them in.

I would back the KS mainly for the minis, but that move makes it look very dodgy.