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I really, REALLY hope that this is good and has very flexible team creation rules. Armageddon was super disappointing. I want to make weird Inquisimunda style teams.

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I'm probably an outlier here but I hope this is simple enough where I can play it with my family (they're pretty deep into board games but miniature wargaming is a step too far I think).
   
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anyone spot the new terrain is kinda like a refresh of 3ed's from 1998
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If there will be organised play (which according to the announcement there will) to my mind that means the customisation will probably be minimal so they can balance it easier but I could very well be wrong.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Latro_ wrote:
anyone spot the new terrain is kinda like a refresh of 3ed's from 1998


Which is apt, since I think the first KT I do for the new rules will be truescale Black Templars based on the 3rd Ed box art

EDIT: "Organised play" doesn't have to mean "tournaments" though, it could be support for hosting campaign events or short-form leagues.

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So far with GW "Organised Play" does mean tournaments.
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 Crimson wrote:
I really, REALLY hope that this is good and has very flexible team creation rules. Armageddon was super disappointing. I want to make weird Inquisimunda style teams.


That’s what I’m hoping for too.
   
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Stoked.

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One Page 40K showed you could cover a lot of stuff in a small page count. What I really expect though is SWA through the looking glass. It could be Necromunda 2018 like with rules for common 40K troops to be a getaway game, or maybe even simpler rules with better customization/advancement stuff (than SWA).

I mean there is a lot of models shown in that video and it's stated it's to Warhammer 40K and its own game. If Codexes are needed then that won't technically be true, so...
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

ElvisJuice wrote:
So far with GW "Organised Play" does mean tournaments.
Spoiler:


For the game system explicitly and intentionally designed to be competitive and tournament-focused, yeah sure. 40K and AoS wise, they've been running as many "campaign day" style events as they have straight-up "bash your buddy's head in" affairs.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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This looks interesting, I'm excited for the terrain. Rules-wise I'll have go wait & see.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
A slight retooling of the Pegasus Hobbies cathedral.
That's obviously not even slightly true.

I own a lot of Pegasus Hobbies terrain. It's wonderful stuff. This stuff isn't the same.

 Latro_ wrote:
anyone spot the new terrain is kinda like a refresh of 3ed's from 1998
First thing that came to my mind. An update of that stuff.


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This popped up on my facebook feed.

Apparently GW model with clear plastic shield?

   
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I'm absolutely stoked for this. I've tried foryears to get people into the Heralds of Ruin Kill Team which is bloody fantastic, but it's like pulling teeth. We've played a lot more Shadow War Armageddon in my group mostly because it's a single book to pick up, despite the rules and the campaign not being as good as the HoR:KT.

This sounds like an excellent middleground between SW:A and HoR:KT. I'm also excited that it will be it's own dedicated system and not a weak bolt-on job like the old official Kill Team rules have always been. They did a solid job on Necromunda, but te best part of 40K is the aliens. I'll take Eldar and Orks or Necrons vs Tau over humans vs very slightly different humans any day of the week

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HA! I think that the Scion has a broken antenna in the video. I'm glad I'm not the only one... (at 0:34)

Anyway, looking forward to this.

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 MadCowCrazy wrote:
This popped up on my facebook feed.

Apparently GW model with clear plastic shield?

That’s a screencap from the Van Saar reveal video.

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I think that GW has learned from Shadespire that booth skirmish rules and competitive play have legs in today's market.

Folks want smaller model counts, solid rule sets, and games you can play in less than an afternoon.

So I'm not surprised that their ongoing experiments to bring this to 40K have continued (I'm looking at you SWA and Necromunda).

I love that they're looking at this from both a role-play and competitive aspect.

...and new terrain always = win in my book.

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It would be amazing if this would be GW's competitive version of 40k
But I don't believe that it would ever have a chance to attract people in the 40k tournament scene as an alternative

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Guess it's time to sell the Shadow War book huh?

Color me interested.

 
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
For the game system explicitly and intentionally designed to be competitive and tournament-focused, yeah sure. 40K and AoS wise, they've been running as many "campaign day" style events as they have straight-up "bash your buddy's head in" affairs.


Pretty sure they've never referred to it as "Organised Play" with Age of Sigmar, though. That was sort of my point. That's a particular thing that they're trying to do (to emulate the likes of FFG's Organised Play).

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Maybe we can bring a normal Dreadnought this time around.
   
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Herbington wrote:
So how long did a game typically last in the old versions? I think I am simultaneously both too old and too new a player to have seen them.

This seems like what I'm looking for though, something we can play in an hour on lunch?


It started in 4th edition with the fan-made "40k in 40minutes". The 6th and 7th edition Kill Team rules were even smaller than that (40ki40m was 400 points; Kill Team was 200). I've had really quick games of 7th edition Kill Team, with the odd one that went on for ages because the last two guys couldn't complete the objective.
   
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If this turns out to be SW:A +, my son and I will be picking it up. Maybe not any models, but at least the rules.

Thanks for pointing out the Pegasus Hobbies models - This is my buying month, will probably pick some up for the city fights I've been wanting to run.

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I'm wondering if Bottle is involved in this...

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The previous Kill Team rules had something similar, so I expect so. Probably not exactly like Necromunda, though.
   
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 Stormonu wrote:
If this turns out to be SW:A +, my son and I will be picking it up. Maybe not any models, but at least the rules.

Thanks for pointing out the Pegasus Hobbies models - This is my buying month, will probably pick some up for the city fights I've been wanting to run.


For what it's worth I strongly recommend Pegasus, easy to use, looks good lots of possibilities.

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Pegasus are great, I haven’t found a good, cheap source for them in Europe though. I bought my cathedral kit second hand. Though I suspect the new GW ruins will eclipse them both in quality in price, there is still a place for Pegasus if you want to build intact buildings of some height.
   
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I'll believe it when it's still a supported product in 1 year after release. This isn't the first time Kill Team or something like it has shown back up on market with a lot of promises, and no delivery.

Then again, they could be trying to do for 40k what Shadespire is doing for AoS.

   
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So we're looking at a boxed set with a skiitari kit, a GSC neophyte kit, the rulebook, the terrain, a mat, and some dice ? With a decent amount of terrain the price point should be close to what we had for SW:A.
I do hope they learn their mistake from SW:A and release the rulebook separately, but Necromunda and Shadespire are worrying precedents.

In any case, I'm pretty hyped. Especially if the campaign system is decent, but not too deep, so it's possible to play somewhat balanced games with warbands that have a very different number of games under their belt.


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 Vertrucio wrote:
I'll believe it when it's still a supported product in 1 year after release. This isn't the first time Kill Team or something like it has shown back up on market with a lot of promises, and no delivery.

7th ed. Kill team was pretty lazy, and a rulebook that could have been written in an hour. It was just "each model is its own unit" plus basic limitations on what you can bring.
Here it's clear they put some effort. It doesn't mean they'll necessarily support it for a long time, but it's encouraging.

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ElvisJuice wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
For the game system explicitly and intentionally designed to be competitive and tournament-focused, yeah sure. 40K and AoS wise, they've been running as many "campaign day" style events as they have straight-up "bash your buddy's head in" affairs.


Pretty sure they've never referred to it as "Organised Play" with Age of Sigmar, though. That was sort of my point. That's a particular thing that they're trying to do (to emulate the likes of FFG's Organised Play).

Organised Play section of the Warhammer Underworlds website, showing what 'organised play' for Kill Team will probably entail.

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