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The SS making their own villain to fight is easily one of the weirdest decisions I've seen.

 reds8n wrote:
With the possible exception of the Enchantress -- and that didn't work out too well did it eh ? --- don't really think that crazy girl with a bat, throws boomerangs & drinks beer or shoots guns really well would do a lot against Superman but MMV.

If you remove the Enchentress, I doubt the entire Suicide Squad could beat Aquaman let alone Superman. This idea was rather stupid. One dude power is literally shoots with a gun really well. Thats not really useful against a dude who is the definition of completely bullet proof.

epronovost wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
With the possible exception of the Enchantress -- and that didn't work out too well did it eh ? --- don't really think that crazy girl with a bat, throws boomerangs & drinks beer or shoots guns really well would do a lot against Superman but MMV.

If you remove the Enchentress, I doubt the entire Suicide Squad could beat Aquaman let alone Superman. This idea was rather stupid. One dude power is literally shoots with a gun really well. Thats not really useful against a dude who is the definition of completely bullet proof.

It's okay. The team was built with slipknot on it. The man who can climb anything with grappling hooks and ropes. Supes has no chance.

 Lance845 wrote:
It's okay. The team was built with slipknot on it. The man who can climb anything with grappling hooks and ropes. Supes has no chance.

Ironically, the dude has a function. Wonder Woman used to have for only weakness having her hands tied by man. That robbed her of her superpowers which means you were only left with a millennia old champion trained by civilisation of warriors whose hands are tied. I'll let you guess how Wonder Woman used to defeat him in the comics. At least his special ability is useful to defeat one superhero which is more then their "fearless leader" oh the irony.

epronovost wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
With the possible exception of the Enchantress -- and that didn't work out too well did it eh ? --- don't really think that crazy girl with a bat, throws boomerangs & drinks beer or shoots guns really well would do a lot against Superman but MMV.

If you remove the Enchentress, I doubt the entire Suicide Squad could beat Aquaman let alone Superman. This idea was rather stupid. One dude power is literally shoots with a gun really well. Thats not really useful against a dude who is the definition of completely bullet proof.

Maybe they new he was bullet proof but weren't if he was bullets proof so they thought maybe more than one guy with a gun might do the job? That's why you need a team!

 LunarSol wrote:

epronovost wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
With the possible exception of the Enchantress -- and that didn't work out too well did it eh ? --- don't really think that crazy girl with a bat, throws boomerangs & drinks beer or shoots guns really well would do a lot against Superman but MMV.

If you remove the Enchentress, I doubt the entire Suicide Squad could beat Aquaman let alone Superman. This idea was rather stupid. One dude power is literally shoots with a gun really well. Thats not really useful against a dude who is the definition of completely bullet proof.

Maybe they new he was bullet proof but weren't if he was bullets proof so they thought maybe more than one guy with a gun might do the job? That's why you need a team!

Well its also a situation of getting what you can get, no? I am not a comic book guy but movie Superman is pretty god level.
Brightburn will be interesting to see. How do we stop horror movie Superman?

 Frazzled wrote:

Well its also a situation of getting what you can get, no? I am not a comic book guy but movie Superman is pretty god level.
Brightburn will be interesting to see. How do we stop horror movie Superman?

If you find him as a kid you simply don't let him see the light of day....

 Frazzled wrote:
How do we stop horror movie Superman?

Kryptonite. You just need a moron with the magic rock and you win every time. Stopping a horror movie Flash or Wonder Woman is actually trickier in my opinon.

epronovost wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
How do we stop horror movie Superman?

Kryptonite. You just need a moron with the magic rock and you win every time. Stopping a horror movie Flash or Wonder Woman is actually trickier in my opinon.

Well don't they have to know that is a weakness?

Supes is also pretty weak to red sun radiation since that takes away the powers he gets from absorbing yellow sun radiation. He's also explicitly much more susceptible to magic based attacks and sorcery.

Or you can resort to using pink kryptonite to make him feel FABULOUS.

Well we're going a bit OT here, but lets do that.

An Uberman appears, fighting for Truth, Justice, and the German way (Dan Akroyd looking at you!)

What does the US do? The things mentioned were known things. But if a superbeing appeared, after bombs, guns, gas, and nukes, we'd be all er...now what?

 Frazzled wrote:
Well we're going a bit OT here, but lets do that.

An Uberman appears, fighting for Truth, Justice, and the German way (Dan Akroyd looking at you!)

What does the US do? The things mentioned were known things. But if a superbeing appeared, after bombs, guns, gas, and nukes, we'd be all er...now what?

Seems like what Russia was doing after Doctor Manhattan appeared on the side of the U.S. in Watchmen, bank on the uberman not being able to stop all the collateral damage from said nukes affecting his side in the conflict. Though it is dependent on how "attached" said uberman is to his side and if he's willing to overlook necessary casualties.

 Grimskul wrote:
Supes is also pretty weak to red sun radiation since that takes away the powers he gets from absorbing yellow sun radiation. He's also explicitly much more susceptible to magic based attacks and sorcery.

Or you can resort to using pink kryptonite to make him feel FABULOUS.

Spoiler:

Pretty much this. Supes is strong but Black Adam or Captain Marvel(Of the SHAZAM variety) could really give him some trouble.

 Frazzled wrote:
Well we're going a bit OT here, but lets do that.

An Uberman appears, fighting for Truth, Justice, and the German way (Dan Akroyd looking at you!)

What does the US do? The things mentioned were known things. But if a superbeing appeared, after bombs, guns, gas, and nukes, we'd be all er...now what?

Against this guy?



Send in Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters?

no youngling...this guy.
https://superheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Uberman

epronovost wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
With the possible exception of the Enchantress -- and that didn't work out too well did it eh ? --- don't really think that crazy girl with a bat, throws boomerangs & drinks beer or shoots guns really well would do a lot against Superman but MMV.

If you remove the Enchentress, I doubt the entire Suicide Squad could beat Aquaman let alone Superman. This idea was rather stupid. One dude power is literally shoots with a gun really well. Thats not really useful against a dude who is the definition of completely bullet proof.

Give him one Krytonite bullet and see how Supes fairs....

I never figured out why Lex never tried this. Give a random thug a krytonite bullet. Superman wouldn't even bother dodging a shot from a random thug...

Putting my Superman uber-nerd hat on, green K is usually more about poisoning Kryptonians (which causes them extreme pain and weakness) than removing all his powers.

The bullet trick has probably been done at one time or another just because his source material has been all over the place and spread across various mediums. But for the most part, I think you're better off just holding out the Kryptonite and walking toward him. The bullet might just bounce off and ricochet a safe distance away.

Now, gold K...different thing. But that was far rarer than even green K, IIRC.

In theory he has enough perception and speed he could see the green bullet when it left the barrel and then dodge it. Also x-ray could see the bullet in the clip/chamber. Depending on how close your are he might just feel it’s effects in advance and know it was nearby.

I am fairly certain Metallo has shot him with a sliver of kryptonite on Luthors orders.

Anyways. Back to GotG Vol. 3

I do wonder where the script and plot will end up going. I mean, we’ve had ‘How The Band Got Together’ and it’s sequel ‘Daddy Issues’ (I use both in a kind way).

How can the script best match the humour the films are known for to the inevitable fallout of Thanos?

What sort of take would you like to see?

I'm still hoping we see more of the gang Stallone's Ravager boss character gets together at the end of the second one. Them and the Guardians chasing the same mcguffin for opposing bidders could lead to some fun, small-stakes hijinks which might be a nice change of pace post-IW/EG.

There's still the Soverign and their Adam Warlock pod in play as well, so I imagine they'll feature.

I very much think its going to be adam warlock.

True on all counts.

I’m kind of hoping we’ll see Stallone and chums show up in a Captain Marvel sequel.

No need for such a sequel to follow on from Avengers 4 after all. It would also give us a chance to see Yondu, and possibly a younger Quill (though he’d be late teens, if memory serves?)

I’d like to see a Guardians prequel/spin-off with the Stallone crew in their earlier days, yeah.

I could see them turning the Guardians into the Infinity Watch or something for a bit.

Oh that could be neat.

 AduroT wrote:
I’d like to see a Guardians prequel/spin-off with the Stallone crew in their earlier days, yeah.

Cameos in GotG 3, sure!

As an actual movie that airs 5-7 years from now? No thanks. I don't really want to see geriatric Stallone etc. de-aged for that sort of movie.

I just want them to have suicide squad to be like they were in the 80s comics: a deniable and disposable black ops team that does the dirty work for the US government. They should be assassinating dictators and stealing state secrets. Doing low profile work and not saving the world but keeping those in power comfortable.

And Waller should be heartless and pragmatic, not stupidly evil and incompetent!

Eh, I’ve always seen Waller as not as smart as she things she is and fairly incompetent/niave. She tends to know just enough to screw everything up for the heroes.