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Feels like a too little, too late movie that is just there to set up BW's successor. Should have been released before the Infinity War set up so there would be more investment in her dying in Endgame.
gorgon wrote: I hazard to guess BW will be a solid if unspectacular flick. The trouble is that a female superspy actioner seems so...familiar.
Its a little broader than that. Even from the first Avengers flick there was pushback on bow guy and spy girl not being superheroic enough. And even the various Nick Fury/SHIELD comics had a hard time being identifiably anything beyond generic spy stuff plus Hydra and Life Model Decoys.
The fact that they downplayed her signature weapon in favor of the little pop-guns and jettisoned most of her backstory beyond 'Russian spy training program is Bad-Mean Villainy' was lazy.
Zero mention of the Hand, sorcerous rituals, being a member of the Romanov dynasty and being older than anyone but Captain America was a bad call. They made her a nobody, and never bothered to correct that.
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I like that you can tell who Taskmaster is stealing/mimicking. In the trailer you can see him doing Cap, Hawkeye, Black Panther, Spider-Man, and Black Widow.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Grimskul wrote: Feels like a too little, too late movie that is just there to set up BW's successor. Should have been released before the Infinity War set up so there would be more investment in her dying in Endgame.
Instead of Captain Marvel, perhaps?
Not that I ascribe to all the hate for that movie, even if I personally thought it mediocre at best, but Black Widow (and Scarlet Johansson) deserved far more to the first Marvel superheroine movie IMO than the DEM for Infinity War/Endgame.
Ahtman wrote: I like that you can tell who Taskmaster is stealing/mimicking. In the trailer you can see him doing Cap, Hawkeye, Black Panther, Spider-Man, and Black Widow.
I see Cap, Hawkeye, and Black Panther, but not the other 2. I did see BW in a prior trailer - is that where you mean Spider-Man from?
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Ahtman wrote: I like that you can tell who Taskmaster is stealing/mimicking. In the trailer you can see him doing Cap, Hawkeye, Black Panther, Spider-Man, and Black Widow.
I see Cap, Hawkeye, and Black Panther, but not the other 2. I did see BW in a prior trailer - is that where you mean Spider-Man from?
The back flip into tri-point landing is something they have shown Spidey do before. The editing has it go from the BP claw thing to a flying kick into the back flip and landing. In the actual film I doubt those two moments are actually together, thus the edit break. BP is acrobatic but he hasn't done that specific pose and Spidey has. Of course I could be wrong and could just all be BP.
As for BW they show TM watching a video of her but there is also a scene where the two fall and land in the exact same manner and pose.
Edit: after watching again maybe BW scene was shown in the other trailer. Or I'm imaging things. Being wrong is just one of my many skills.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
He and Tasky could have a quick meetup early, he could see the footage of BW, make a comment that they used to date (or were married, idk, whatever), then go talk about having to save a kid from some time traveling Thanos-wannabe donkey-cave and head offscreen. Universes meet and he gets ten seconds of screen time.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: Who the #$%^ knows. Wait for theaters to reopen? Put it on Disney +? Sell it online?
In a normal year you'd expect it to clear $300-$500 million that's a heckuva bet.
They're never ever ever going to send a movie that could potentially make a billion dollars at the box office to VOD. They're going to let it sit on the shelf.
Black Panther sold $30 million on DVD. Getting VOD financials is a very hard to find number, but it is surely substantially less than that.
It would be like making a giant pyramid of money and burning it, Joker-style. The movie cost $200 million to make.
The only movies you will see going VOD are things on the tail end of their theatrical run anyway (invisible man), stuff that is underperforming (the hunt), and suchlike.
You might see a few "loss leaders" tossed out to Disney Plus, but definitely not anything on that level (like Mulan) unless this takes a really bizarre turn and goes on for some unfathomable amount of time (6 months, lets say) in which case all bets are off.
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Thargrim wrote: If this happens to Dune i'm going to be livid.
Dune isn’t due to be released until December. If we’re still in full-on public lockdown by then, then we have MUCH bigger problems...
True, either it'll come and go quicker than people think or we'll be in hell well into spring 2021. The thing is it might get delayed regardless because theaters might not have recovered by then, and it won't stand to make as much money. This will impact box office numbers for some time, simply due to how it's impacting the theaters.