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2020/05/31 05:42:54
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
genuinely dreadful --- nice appearance by DeForest Kelley however.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2020/06/02 16:58:03
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
I remember seeing Night of the Lepus as a child. It was the first time I’d ever really thought about an actor as a person who was not their character, a person who could be desperate for work.
I am so morbidly curious about that Batwoman film. I'd have to have confirmation that clothing stays on so I don't have to explain TOO much to the wife (or schedule the viewing when I'm not at home) and that there's either dubs or subs.
if that sort of thing floats your boat the.. oh boy.....
have you seen Turkish Star Wars ?
subtitles version
Film makes no sense whatsoever , even the initial fight in the first 5 mins or so you don't really know which ships the good guys are in, seems to change from moment to moment or scene to scene.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2020/06/03 13:39:33
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I remember seeing Night of the Lepus as a child. It was the first time I’d ever really thought about an actor as a person who was not their character, a person who could be desperate for work.
It took some nerve to make that movie. I will five the model makers credit for doing the best job they could. I never did get the 'thumpthump" sound effect they used for the rabbits.
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
2020/06/03 20:44:45
Subject: Re:Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
Turkish star wars are the best star wars in my opinion. It at least provides entertainment and giggles, unlike the original material.
While I was at work and was going through a large amount of material from a closed down store here in town I came upon a movie, that at first look made me shrug and label it as a mediocre film with some half-decent director. Little did I know that I had stumbled upon a movie that actually impressed me. now I am not sure it falls under the B movie genre per se, but I had never heard of it before I found it.
Wer from 2014
2020/06/04 07:46:24
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
I'm not a scarjo fan and I know the "10% of our brain" thing is mostly a myth, but I liked this movie anyway.
The cool idea in it is "What if it turns out that we are god?"
That movie was indeed very good, nice train of thought while watching the movie.
Wow, another fan! Yeah, I mean i tried to not be upset by the 10% myth, but knowing what I do about quantum theory and things like the experiment with a laser and two slots it seems that consciousness and the ability to observe ties into the universe in some fundamental ways. I could see it as a person becoming more aware of how observation affects reality and reaching a point where total awareness essentially equaled total control, basically becoming what could be called god.
Spoiler:
Also the idea that she went back in time, or possibly reached a point where she existed in all times, and essentially started humanity, made it even more intriguing.,
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
2020/06/06 14:38:57
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
I'm not a scarjo fan and I know the "10% of our brain" thing is mostly a myth, but I liked this movie anyway.
The cool idea in it is "What if it turns out that we are god?"
That movie was indeed very good, nice train of thought while watching the movie.
Wow, another fan! Yeah, I mean i tried to not be upset by the 10% myth, but knowing what I do about quantum theory and things like the experiment with a laser and two slots it seems that consciousness and the ability to observe ties into the universe in some fundamental ways. I could see it as a person becoming more aware of how observation affects reality and reaching a point where total awareness essentially equaled total control, basically becoming what could be called god.
Spoiler:
Also the idea that she went back in time, or possibly reached a point where she existed in all times, and essentially started humanity, made it even more intriguing.,
Well, I know absolutely nothing about those subjects, but it still made my mind boil with interest in the way they presented it. I also liked how the director returned to form with this movie, I have been hoping for a another movie of this format since I saw it.
2020/06/07 11:53:59
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
This is a daft, but oddly clever movie. And from the same pen as Pretty Woman....
Along the comedy lines, "Hell comes to frogtown".
Also, "Lobster man from Mars", which is i admit a ripoff of the idea in 'the producers". A corrupt hollywood studio exec (Is there any other kind of Hollywood studio exec?) has ran up a huge tax bill and needs a massive flop to write off his taxes or go to prison. A scifi fhan comes to him with what seems to be the answer to his crisis, a home made movie called "Lobster man from Mars", a guaranteed box office disaster.
Or, is it?
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2020/06/10 19:47:46
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
Small local TV Studio which offers a regular horror programme, is stalked by a mystery killer!
Predictably a bit camp in places, but you know? This really is surprisingly good! 26 minutes to go, a body count of three, and still no real idea who the killer is.
Definitely worth a watch I’d say.
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I ran across one I had not seen before. It was called;
Phoenix: The Warrior
If you were thinking it was going to be a Sword and Sorcery film.... you are wrong. It is a Road Warrior-esque post-apoc movie. However, the "kicker" is that most of the men were killed by a genetically engineered plague in the Big War. Now the world is only populated by women and women warriors.
I think we can all see how this is an cheap 80's exploitation film trying to cash in on the success of Mad Max. If you have seen what these types of movies bring to the table, then you know exactly what to expect.
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2020/06/15 17:06:09
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
It is a Vincent Price film (what a fun actor he is to watch- but the films he was in are almost universally terrible).
It is a monster centipede that grows in your spine when you feel fear (for any reason) and dies back down if you scream. Eventually, scientists can extract it from a person so that it can do horrible things.
On a surprise note, the scientist in charge of the project clearly takes LSD for scientific research purposes.
Automatically Appended Next Post: "Creature from a Prehistoric Planet!"
It turns out that the planet in question is, in fact, just earth.
While I think the right thing to do with a Kaiju film is to show the monsters destroying the city a whole lot, you can still have too much of said destruction if nothing else is happening in your film.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I hope everyone here has seen The Happening.
I mean, how can you not? It is one of the great worst film classics of our time.
M. Knight does a perfect job of going completely forgetting how to make a movie on every level. I mean, he used to know this stuff, how did he forget?
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2020/06/15 19:54:02
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
I suspect it was the increasing free reign he was given as the films got the money rolling in, and the crew that previously stopped him tripping over himself had less and less say in curbing his more wackadoodly ideas
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
2020/06/16 11:07:16
Subject: Re:Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
Turnip Jedi wrote: I suspect it was the increasing free reign he was given as the films got the money rolling in, and the crew that previously stopped him tripping over himself had less and less say in curbing his more wackadoodly ideas
Yup. He had a massive ego following his success. He walked away from Disney, even though they were offering him complete control and the money he wanted, because a producer criticised his script for The Lady In The Water.
So, even though they were still going to let him make it exactly as he wanted and weren't going to force him to make any changes, he walked away and went to Warner Brothers because someone felt his script needed further work.
And let us not speak of what he did to Avatar: The Last Airbender
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1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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2020/06/16 14:34:52
Subject: Re:Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
It is a Vincent Price film (what a fun actor he is to watch- but the films he was in are almost universally terrible).
It is a monster centipede that grows in your spine when you feel fear (for any reason) and dies back down if you scream. Eventually, scientists can extract it from a person so that it can do horrible things.
On a surprise note, the scientist in charge of the project clearly takes LSD for scientific research purposes.
Yeah, that's the one where theaters hooked up little electrodes to seats to 'tingle' you at certain moments during the film. Can't understand why that didn't catch on.
The first and foremost problem with M. Knight's work is that he got a reputation for having twist endings. If you go to a movie expecting to be surprised, you won't be, right? So audiences expecting twist endings were universally disappointed either because he had them or because he didn't.
But his films started getting worse for other reasons as well.
- The Village had a lot of things to like about it- it was well written, well shot and well acted. Though not the best of thrillers, far from terrible. Focusing on the twist makes it seem like a much worse film than it is.
- Lady in the Water degraded further- for whatever reason, Knight forgot how to write dialogue before he started up this film. To an extent, this is because the film wants to fill us in on its lore and the character backstories, but it just doesn't work at all. A lot of it is also Knight complaining about how film critics don't like him, and it comes off as self important whining (though kind of funny too). There were a few redeeming moments (John Leguizamo is always good) but this film was a solid failure. The film just sucked too much, and people couldn't decide if the ending was a twist or not.
- The Happening took the flaws of Lady in the Water and expanded on them, while suppressing everything that Knight ever did right. He presents ideas in the worst way he could, character motivations are bonkers, dialogue is awful and even John Leguizamo's performance falls flat (seriously, it is hard to make him look so bad). Practically every line of dialogue is made of pure stupidity.
Imagine a zombie movie with no zombies, or the Birds without any birds. It is kind of like that. There high point of the film is when a character has a conversation with a house plant.
I have not seen his subsequent works.
2020/06/16 19:18:26
Subject: Re:Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
It is a Vincent Price film (what a fun actor he is to watch- but the films he was in are almost universally terrible).
It is a monster centipede that grows in your spine when you feel fear (for any reason) and dies back down if you scream. Eventually, scientists can extract it from a person so that it can do horrible things.
On a surprise note, the scientist in charge of the project clearly takes LSD for scientific research purposes.
Yeah, that's the one where theaters hooked up little electrodes to seats to 'tingle' you at certain moments during the film. Can't understand why that didn't catch on.
The tingler was a William B. Castle production. He made a whole series of "gimmick movies" which were meant to draw people back to theaters after television started spreading in the 50's. Color was the common way to get people away from the TV early on, but it was expensive. Castle made B&W movies but added gimmicks to lure people in. One gimmick was in the tingler, vibrator motors were hidden under some theater seats at random and during a key scene buzzed under the viewer's butt. Ir was called "percepto".
Castle had lots of gimmicks. In "house on haunted hill" a paper skeleton was hidden and rigged with an 'invisible' string. When a theater worker pulled it it would pull the skeleton up so the audience could see it while a skeleton rose on the screen. It was called "emergo".
Mr. Sardonicus gave the audience mercy cards to vote on whether the villain got a merciful end or not. (There was no actual merciful end for the villain.)
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
2020/06/16 20:35:44
Subject: Re:Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
Gunhed. a 1989 japanese cyberpunk mecha film. I wanted it to be good, I really tried watching it a couple times and even forgave the low budget effects. But it was just too much of a mess to enjoy. Some nice visuals but usually things were just too damn dark to appreciate them. Some good moments but too much of it was just a confused, unlit mess.
Then again there's...
Hardware 1990. A much better kind of cyberpunk mad max like film, too bad it ripped off a comic called "SHOK!" and became successful enough to sue and keep tied up in court for a long time. It's eventual dvd release was delayed for years and years.
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2020/06/26 17:11:56
Subject: Lets watch some B and lesser known films!
And I had a grognard moment. See, like probably a fair slice of Dakkanauts, I’m from the VHS Rental Generation.
Yet.....I for one have been letting the side down. My taste in film has not improved, like. At all. I’ll still put on all manner of god awful movies on Netflix or Prime.
Time was, young ‘uns, I’d hired a movie based on the front cover. And even if it sucked more than a Dyson in high orbit, by jingo I would watch it to the end. Because I specifically paid for that film, even if it was the free one of a 3-4-2 deal. And I paid for it, I was damned well watching it. All of it. Credits, trailers, the lot.
And only rarely did I truly regret it. If nothing else, I’d enjoy taking the piss out of it with my mates as we watched it.
But....in this day of Abundant Awful, I change it. I’ll back up. Pick another crap film.
I need to change this behaviour. Because some poor sod treated that film as their Big Break. They put their heart and soul into it. Who am I to not witness? And I have discovered surprisingly worthy gems from pushing past the initial 20 minutes.
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I miss the days of exctiting cover artwork. If it weren’t for the covers, who would ever have seen Chud, or Life Force, or It’s Alive, or Island of It’s Alive?
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I miss the days of exctiting cover artwork. If it weren’t for the covers, who would ever have seen Chud, or Life Force, or It’s Alive, or Island of It’s Alive?
Bob speaks true
bonus points if said cover was
a) done sub frezatta style
b) featured monsters, hardware or improbaly shaped ladies not actually in the film
c) tried the whole mockbuster thing but not for big films but other z-list boswellow
also gold star for mentioning CHUD
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."