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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 16:08:23
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I don't know, but this "new" Ork release schedule seems rather lack luster and boring. I thought for Orks, it would be EXCITING, but I dont' feel it. I don't even feel it on the internet when people talk about Orks. It seems the anticipation of this "new" release schedule has killed the "hype" and excitement usually generated when a new release is coming out. When other factions were being released you can feel the excitement and anticipation for an up coming release, but with Orks, all the "electricity in the air" is gone.
So as an Ork player are you really excited, or do you find the lack of anticipation and excitement killed your enthusiasm a little bit? While I am not an Ork Player I do buy some of their minis and I find that almost anything right now released for Orks is just "blah". If it was released like the "old" way I would have been excited for the new Meknaught release. I haven't really even bothered to see what it does right now.
6 months ago, I couldn't wait for Orks to get updated and buy their new Limited Edition codex. Now I just don't care. GW is not making this exciting or fresh, but lack luster and boring.
What are your thoughts?
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 16:16:33
Subject: Re:Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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I suppose the old army release felt more exciting. There was all of this stuff that came out at the same time, it felt like a celebration. The weekly releases is smaller little bubbles of excitement, but you don't get that whole big WOW factor when you see it all at once.
GW seems to believe that this weekly release method encourages more purchasing, and for all I know this could be right! Still, I miss the old way.
That and the prices on the new releases are tremendous. I just feel like I'm bartering with GW except they keep raising the price and I keep saying "fine" until some point where I decline. It's like drug sales
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 16:25:05
Subject: Re:Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Cosmic Joe
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I haven't been paying attention to the new Ork stuff. What about it do you find disappointing? Why?
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Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 16:29:59
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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It's lame. There's no doubt about it. And releasing bits before the codex is a blatant "F-U" to 40k players.
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DA: 8-2-0 in 7th Edition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 16:34:17
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Yes....but their rules are IN the white dwarf.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 17:45:29
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Yes.. but no one knows how the whole army relates to each other
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 18:04:08
Subject: Re:Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Fixture of Dakka
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MWHistorian wrote:I haven't been paying attention to the new Ork stuff. What about it do you find disappointing? Why?
Saw the Ork Naught (sorry forget the name) went on the GW site to get more information and saw the $130 price tag, and just clicked closed. With no excitement of not knowing what is coming, and then seeing this insane price cost, why even bother seeing what it really is. I don't even know what else will come. We can get crap loads of new stuff or we can get nothing. Seeing $130 price tag, why get excited for what may or may not be released later.
So I take it it's the high prices with little hype I am just turned off.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 18:04:40
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I would have rather they released it all at once, with the codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 18:04:50
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ditto! I am actually very excited but very frustrated. I want the rules so I can see what I already have has changed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 18:09:17
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Graham McNeil
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Slow, and boring... Nailed it Automatically Appended Next Post: New stuff right Now! Every Friday!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 18:10:36
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Of course! GW wants you to buy the model before you see it's crappy rules. Buyers remorse is not a concern for GW, it is a fundamental part of their marketing plan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 18:50:40
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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I only play orks and I am not excited at all for the new release. The release of the 7th edition rule book did not help matters and took much of the focus away from the orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 19:03:31
Subject: Re:Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Cosmic Joe
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I wonder if GW can afford another lackluster codex release.
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Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 19:10:30
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Was Astra Militarum the last codex release? Was it lackluster? It seems to me that people were ga-ga for it. ZOMG! Divination Psychers everywhere!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 19:23:08
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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It rather lame since there are countless models over the years that look awesome yet turned out to be terrible. ( Looking at you Mandrakes, Pyrovores etc.) In a perfect world we could just buy whatever models we like without having to worry about them being either awful or over-powered. As is though I prefer reading through the codex before buying any models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 20:13:17
Subject: Re:Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was really exited to get my new Ork Codex but now after learning I will have to spend roughly $250.00 to get one unit of Mekguns. As well as the lack luster rules for the expensive $$ wise Morkanaught. So far my only glimpse of hope is Flashgits, but ya the overly long wait has sort of killed the excitement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 20:27:40
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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I feel the same way.
Orks were my first love in 40k, but this...
I don't even hate it. it's just...bleh.
Morkanaut - overpriced and ugly.
Flash Gitz - kinda like them, but only kinda, but the price is silly.
Big Gunz - ludicrous price, not very inspiring models.
Meganobz - super boring models.
And where's the codex? What's going on? Can I do clans? Any interesting themes to build an army around? What's this I keep hearing about Looted Vehicles going away?
Meh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 20:32:14
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Archon_Zarbyrn wrote:It rather lame since there are countless models over the years that look awesome yet turned out to be terrible. ( Looking at you Mandrakes, Pyrovores etc.) In a perfect world we could just buy whatever models we like without having to worry about them being either awful or over-powered. As is though I prefer reading through the codex before buying any models.
Pyrovores? Terrible? Are you kidding? RAW, when it dies, it hits every model on the table! >.>
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 20:35:29
Subject: Re:Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The models look pretty good, the flash gitz and mega-armoured nobs at least.
Unless I had excess money to blow on 40k, I'd want to see the Ork codex first.
I'm not sure why GW is doing the Ork release schedule the way they are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 20:49:28
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Sneaky Kommando
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The release schedule is a bit crappy but its not the main reason i have lost most of my excitement about the coming ork models (not sure about the Dex, will have to wait to make a judgement call on that. The main reason is, i'm not a huge fan of any of the stuff that i have seen so far... After years of thinking to myself "The new ork models must be coming up soon", this is just not good enough IMO.
The main slap in the face, for me, is the Mek guns: 1) they are hideous. i can't stand the shape of them or IDK i just don't like them. 2) "Oh you guys have been waiting years and years for decent ork artillery models? let me just totally change the shape size and general design of them so that your scratch built ones cant be used. Better buy ours". 3) The price. I mean seriously come on...
Gork/morkanaught Could be a cool model after some alterations (but which ork player in their right minds wouldn't personalize such a unit?) main reason im not excited about it is the White dwarf rules ar really quite lackluster to me. namely 6 troop capacity, non assault vehicle and no fire points.
I like the rules and the models for the flash gitz (bar the pirate hats, but you don't need to use them anyway...) Again, price tag puts me off but might just be something i just have to buy as a die hard greenskin.
From the glimpse i have seen on the meganobz it looks like it could be a cool kit if assembled right, but companies like kromlech are making much much cooler ones... The main saving grace for me with this kit would be the rumor about being able to make a MA warboss or big mek with the kit ala nezgreg from the bullgryns kit. Probably expensive as gak though...
So yeah, not as excited as i thought i would be about an ork release but hold some blind optimism for the codex so that i can use my existing stuff a bit more competitively. (there never was much hope, just a fools hope.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 21:54:09
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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I love the release schedule. I'm poor so it gives me time to save up for each new release. That being said I still don't have a single one. Or the 7th ed Rulebook... I need a job... BUT. I the prices aren't actually that bad for me. I buy on Ebay!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 22:20:48
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I wasn't planning on buying anything until I had a chance to absorb the new Codex first so this slow bit release with Codex last is killing me. Not to mention the 3000+ points of orks I already own WAITING....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 22:31:33
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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bryceloop wrote:releasing bits before the codex is a blatant "F-U" to 40k players.
How so?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/13 22:53:59
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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From the way I play, you look at the codex first to see what your choices are and THEN buy yourself some models. This isn't some powergaming thing it's just to see what you'll be getting, how you can use it, and if it'll be any fun to play around with. Buying models before having the codex in hand is jumping the gun.
Games Workshop expecting you to get the models before the codex is ridiculous. Without the codex in hand, how can you tell what any of your shiny new toys will do?
I would advise all GW players who are looking into the Orks to wait for the Codex...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/14 00:33:52
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Pyrovore? Nuff said?
Mysterious Pants explained it best. How many people bought the Pyrovore? Just a few because they HATED the rules, found it useless to field but like the mini so bought one only. GW is trying to get the impulse buys and then it will be buyers remourse. For a company this is "suppose" to be a miniature company they sure make crappy rules so people will not buy them and field them.
It's like GW is a used car salesman. They want you to buy the car first before test driving it now.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/14 01:07:40
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I was super pumped for Orks. Then 7th was released which caused my interest to wane. Now the staggered release trying to tempt me into buying models I know nothing about has left me with no desire to purchase any Ork product. I have actually taken the money I put aside and purchased two Warmachine armies instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/14 01:15:08
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Did someone post pics of the new meganobz?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/14 02:36:57
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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I have a friend specifically holding out on Orks until the Codex drops, why bother if half the army takes a shot to the cranium. There's no point in supporting GWs new dex, by buying models for the army, if the Dex ends up sucking royal poop.
Much like most people thought with the new Tyranids. (Justifiably so) That dex was a rotten pile of meat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/14 03:35:31
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Yeah, but that seems silly too. I've heard people say that. Well I just want the bloody codex. Not the codex, six WDs, an FAQ, then cards, a collector's edition napkin with more rules drawn on the back, etc. ad nauseum.
Yes I find it lackluster. I just posted that in a different thread before seeing this one. So it should've gone here. Oh well.
I'm an old school ork and marine player from RT. 2nd edition had so many fun and orky things. They toughened them up in third (darker I mean, less cartoony), but they also weren't as good as they are now rules wise. The last codex has been good. But I miss orky things, like the artillery. I was pleased to see the shokk attack gun back in this last codex. I wanted to like the new artillery, but come on.
The models have been lackluster. The artillery are old buggues with cannons on them. The Flash gits are just nobs with loota guns. I mean it is all very uninspired and dull. The rules aren't exciting.
There's no reason to get excited. PLUS, the schedule.
Dragging out these over the whole month is just making me not want to buy them. Orks can be scratch built easier than any other other, so why spend huge amounts on things that are cheaper in bit.
Nobs bodies are less that 10$ for 5 on ebay bits stores - so there's some flash gits with some parts, plenty of stand ins for the new artillery, although the rules are pretty meh, so why bother?
I would like to see new kits for the warbosses, more bits, wargear etc.
I don't hate GW. Infact I like a lot of the newer stuff.
The Sternguard and Vanguard kists are unbelievably awesome. The Helldrake and centurians not so much. But the Orks stuff coming out just seems like the OP said, freaking boring. I think they schedule is killing them too. You have time to go, do I want this unit? instead of oh hey look at these ten new kist or whatever, which ones do I like. Oh look rules!. Nah, let's just throw some previously used stuff out one a week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/14 08:19:26
Subject: Are you disapointed with the Ork release schedule?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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Psienesis wrote: Archon_Zarbyrn wrote:It rather lame since there are countless models over the years that look awesome yet turned out to be terrible. ( Looking at you Mandrakes, Pyrovores etc.) In a perfect world we could just buy whatever models we like without having to worry about them being either awful or over-powered. As is though I prefer reading through the codex before buying any models.
Pyrovores? Terrible? Are you kidding? RAW, when it dies, it hits every model on the table! >.>
Sorry, I should clarify I meant when the 5th edition Tyranid codex came out least they make good Biovore count-as.
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