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Deadshot wrote:WS 4
BS 4
STR X
T 4
W 4
I 4
A 3
LD 10
Sv 5+/3++

Its Str=Wounds. It regains a wound for each one it inflicts. It has a Large Blast psychic power that causes D3 automatic, unsavable wounds on Doom, before it regens, and is AP, Str of shot = Wounds.

If you are within 6" of it at the start of any shooting phase, then you take a Ld test on 3D6 and lose a wounds for every point failed by, cover saves and invulnerable saves allowed. It regains these woundfs you lose.

<Railgun

And how did it end up with an invul. better than it's armour save? What the point of an armour save?

HAX>

It is a Zoanthrope adaption. It has warp field.


At the time this was written, the DH codex was still around, and psycannons and FW ignore invulnerables. As well as Necron Warscythes.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Doom of Malan'tai-90


As far as I am aware, you don't have any guns right?

Not sure what that is, but DEATH BY RAILGUNS

XV88-70

Ratling x10 - 100

thunderfire cannon -100
at range using airburst rounds

Callidus Assassin - 145

Lord Magnus wrote:Callidus Assassin - 145

2x XV88

2 oblitz w/ lc, ds, -150

koridon wrote:2 oblitz w/ lc, ds, -150

Wouldn't beat the XV88s.

u did not put shield drones on so double str insta death

koridon wrote:u did not put shield drones on so double str insta death

Yeah, but my broadsides do the same thing to the oblits, only with TL railguns. TL Railgun>Railgun>Lascannon

ya but i have a 5++ save so that still give me a chance to save so move on.

koridon wrote:ya but i have a 5++ save so that still give me a chance to save so move on.

I still win.


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Unless you want to mathhammer? Do a mathhammer based on my units shooting first, and one on yours. If it is good enough, cool. If not, post another unit.

Ok...ok this is basic unit vs. baisic unit, so I will impute this unit for Chaos.

10-man chaos champion termie, x2 reaper cannon, x 10 chain fist, x 2 combi-plasma.

This unit can deep strike if needed or travel via Landraider, Outflank if Renagade rules apply, or just drop and kill all thats in its way....a flamer might be good if you got to many troops near by.

LordWynne wrote:Ok...ok this is basic unit vs. baisic unit, so I will impute this unit for Chaos.

10-man chaos champion termie, x2 reaper cannon, x 10 chain fist, x 2 combi-plasma.

This unit can deep strike if needed or travel via Landraider, Outflank if Renagade rules apply, or just drop and kill all thats in its way....a flamer might be good if you got to many troops near by.

How many points is that though? We we're at 140/150

I have always thought that the next post is consider to first if they can. and oblits can cause they are relentless.

Am I right?

Lordwynnes point cost is 610pts so invalid sir.

koridon wrote:I have always thought that the next post is consider to first if they can. and oblits can cause they are relentless.

Am I right?

Lordwynnes point cost is 610pts so invalid sir.

I am sorry, could you rephrase that? I don't quite get what you're saying. is consider to first?

Sorry, first one to shoot is the next post if they can, I believe that is how it works I assume. terminator armor is relentless

koridon wrote:Sorry, first one to shoot is the next post if they can, I believe that is how it works I assume. terminator armor is relentless

I thought it was first post shoots first?

And XV88 is relentless too.

my reason is cause it is as if when you post it is ur turn in a round

and don't you have to pay for that ability on the broadside

Since i dont know how much those termies are i'll go off of the 140/150

My Leman Russ Punisher 180 vs Oblits. Enjoy making 20 saves.

koridon wrote:my reason is cause it is as if when you post it is ur turn in a round

and don't you have to pay for that ability on the broadside

No, you pay for SaP. And the way I picture it, it is like it has to beat the previous by a fair enough margin that it can deal damage after a round of shooting, or moving it it is outranged by the second unit. Because otherwise you could have something like this:

2 Oblits
2XV88
2 Oblits
2 XV88
2 Oblits
2 XV88
etc.

You know what i am meaning, right?


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Bolly.Bolly?BOLLY! wrote:Since i dont know how much those termies are i'll go off of the 140/150

My Leman Russ Punisher 180 vs Oblits. Enjoy making 20 saves.

Then Two XV88s with TA-160

Basically an automatic victory against anything with an AV

im2randomghgh wrote:

Bolly.Bolly?BOLLY! wrote:Since i dont know how much those termies are i'll go off of the 140/150

My Leman Russ Punisher 180 vs Oblits. Enjoy making 20 saves.

Then Two XV88s with TA-160

Basically an automatic victory against anything with an AV

You're never fun sport are you... Damn tau and their fancy super guns.

understood but i am getting sick of broadsides, nothing personal

and just checked the dex, no relentless on broadsides unless you take advanced stabilisation system (+10pts) which then gives slow and purposeful which then leads to relentless.

koridon wrote:understood but i am getting sick of broadsides, nothing personal

and just checked the dex, no relentless on broadsides unless you take advanced stabilisation system (+10pts) which then gives slow and purposeful which then leads to relentless.

Really? Hmm. I'll look that up. I wasn't 100% sure on that.

And they are really the only anti-tank weapon in my favourite codex so my options are limited.

i have two books friends with other armies and army builder that is useful for this forum page. So i can devesify

koridon wrote:i have two books friends with other armies and army builder that is useful for this forum page. So i can devesify

I do too, but I feel more comfortable with Tau. I have 4 armies. tau, IF, DE, Crons

im2randomghgh wrote:

Then Two XV88s with TA-160

Basically an automatic victory against anything with an AV

Blah, even Ratlings can beat broadsides given time and cover.

Furioso Dreadnought with Lucius Pod - 175

2 War walkers w/ tl bl -175

koridon wrote:2 War walkers w/ tl bl -175

They are not twin linked, it's actually 2 weapons each.
BA Vanguard Veteran x8 - TH x2 - 215

4 Land Speeder Storms including 2 MM-230


My Jammer causes you to Scatter 4D6" on deepstriking within 6" of me, which is reduced to 3D6 due to DoA IIRC.